I’m not sure how many of you on here listen to the giants podcast- you should it's well worth a listen and you get to know some of what goes on behind he scenes and the background of some of those involved at the club. For those of you have been calling for a change in management I suggest you listen to this weeks and you may be enlightened.

listened to thelis twice recently on full eighty mins and rl back chat.... still not changed my mind on him, club needs a fresh direction

not got to this podcast just yet

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Don't wast your time with this then mate , it has no answers to the things you will want to know about. Its mostly about his experience watching the Giants from a young age, How hard the job is and how fantastic the people are who helped him to learn the job.
On our present situation Big eorl wants to see more urgency, no hands on hips and scrums formed faster, and we will be trying something different against Hull. ( i pray that it works ) Mr Thewlis said something that just confirmed my opinion of the club. He said look we are in the top flight of the Super league we have been in worse places , in other words just keep turning up and hoping for a miracle.

No sign or word about any uneasiness , just sounds to be business as usual, But maybe it was just supposed to be lighthearted entertainment which is fair enough, Not many on here seem to feel that way about the way things are going though.

Oh well if he talks about supporting the club I’m sure we can forgive his business Naivety and constant mistakes and give him the benefit of the doubt eh

listened too it, nothing to hear here...

got abit more out of him on rl back chat before we lost to salford and castleford.

the most recent one with crabtree and harrison and shaun lunt is a good one, worth a watch on youtube... hit the nail on the head with what they say about the injuries, cap and youngsters

1 hours confirmation of why we are where we are. The one bit of clarity was when he said you are judged by results in pro sport and he will be.

So not as enlightening as the op suggested it seems?

Nowt as blind as them that won’t see....

what i saw jools was " fiddling while Rome burned" but i don't claim to have great Eyesight, I have a strong feeling that something is afoot that we know Nowt about.

An interesting insight of the man and his role in the club. He is fully aware of the situation re results at the moment and suggested something new is afoot for the trip to Hull FC. He is doing the job of MD and he said (again) he responds to enquiries from fans but he also has to suffer ill informed abuse from some "supporters". He is Huddersfield Giants through and through but he doesn`t take the training nor pick the team. Worth a listen, however the "I know better" brigade will still think they could do a better job. Well what`s stopping you? Put yourself forward, let Ken know of your experience and start he ball rolling...

does any other clubs fans blame its CEO for players not performing or just ours? what exactly do people expect him to do once the players step onto the pitch, he's a fan like we all are so the performances are probably frustrating and hurting him too.

can you imagine your own kids reading horrible stuff about you on the internet cos someone has decided you do a poor job without knowing what is a good job in your role, its sickening at times and pathetic the abuse someone just trying his best in a very hard job gets off quite usually grown adults who have probably not achieved half of what this guy has !!

cut him some slack unless you have the money to do better !

Thewlis gets paid to appoint the coach
Thewlis gets paid to bring the players in and negotiate contracts
Thewlis gets paid to run the club and oversee all commercial aspects
Please tell me why he should be absolved from any blame just because he doesn’t take to the field or because he supports the club?
The club is run shambolicly but he should carry no flack for That ?
Ok well you are ken Davey and I claim my £10, if you run the company you take the praise when it goes well and the questions get asked of you when it doesn’t

but how is the players on the pitch his fault ? like i said hes an easy target and hes not responsible for commercial andy watson and brian blacker are

Who hires Andy Watson and Brian blacker and manages them?
Who brought the players in ?
Who appointed the physios ?
Who brought bumper back on big money for him to leave suddenly?
Who hired Woolford ?
Does it just happen or does someone sanction it all?

The board of directors do those things.... the board..... which consists of more than one person and includes Ken.
Not sure what your job is DJ- but would it be fair if your lads performance on the rugby field was to be judged not on his own performance but based on how well the groundsman did his job? Or the kit man? Or how many tickets they sold to a game?
I would imagine like most anyone RT has performance objectives and targets to meet in his job- I’d imagine they would be based on the financial performance of the business and not the performance of the team on the field. The fact he’s still around suggests he’s been meeting those targets.
RT is first and foremost a fan- he wants the team to succeed whereas another in that role might not actually care what the results on the field were as long as he was meeting his own personal targets.
It’s like some twisted backwards form of mizaru and kikazaru we could do with more of the third one and speak less evil!

So if the board of directors do all that then what does he actually do then? And I don’t have kids so not sure what your analogy was getting at, hey you think he walks on water that’s fine, those who have left the club as they find him difficult to work with are all liars who harbour a grudge it seems, you know he’s a good egg because he tells you he is, keep drinking the coolade and having rows on Facebook with other fans, Adios

Do you understand how a board of directors works in a business?
if the analogy is too difficult for you to understand perhaps you should just stop trying.
So you’ve spoken to people who have left the club? I thought we “got rid” of people at the giants going by comments on here- people surely don’t leave!
I used to believe the crap that’s spouted but a number of years ago I was invited, with a few others, a couple on here, to speak to Ken, Paul Morgan and RT. Ive made up my own mind since that point based on my own personal experiences of dealing with him- not from hearsay on social media or from anyone else.
I’m not saying RT isn’t without fault - but he’s being blamed for things outside of his control, and being accused of making decisions he doesn’t, or without people knowing the full facts (which he will usually tell you if you ask).
He’s a fan just like the rest of us.

The club has said for a long time - ten years at least - that it needed to attract 10,000+ crowds. That is, presumably, a key target for the club as a business.

How’s that coming along?

Something that I’ve long pondered is how rugby union clubs have managed huge growth in crowds. I worked for a long time in Northampton and over the same period the Giants have stagnated, the Saints have grown hugely. Why?

Money and facilities..... and the product being devalued by the governing body.

The club said to be sustainable they needed to attract 10,000 - they tried and showed more than once they can’t do that giving tickets away for free which suggests that in this town it’s not achievable! - so the club have taken a different tack in more recent times and the corporate and sponsorship stuff is worth more money than ordinary ticket sales. That’s why the commercial decision was made to switch to Fridays- not to do with the fans but all to do with corporate.
A business club deal is worth 50 walk up ticket sales, a box 40 walk up ticket sales, an executive ticket is worth 10x what I paid for my ST.
You only have to look at the website to see how the commercial section of it has grown to see the focus has changed.

not enlightened many people jools..... on your own on thewlis

It scares me how people can just believe propaganda. Society are slaves to it. It’s a slippery slope.

Obviously not enlightened you Giants RL, however I feel many people (without an axe to grind) will have a better understanding of the man and his role.

I'm not one particularly for properganda jools and i haven't slagged anyone off in particular. I have just commented on the podcast and my take on it. You can only judge a business on how you see it doing, I'm with Steve May on this, whoever has run the club for the past decade has overseen a slide downhill, Maybe it's just mirroring Huddersfield in general.

Fair enough i know nothing about the corporate side but if it's so good why bother with the Rugby at all, on the face of it no one at the club seems over bothered other than Mr Davy throwing money at it periodically. As usual though the miserable failure of the team to show any kind of potential to go forward in any way is as ever down to the moaning fans and endless bad luck.

The fans just keep turning up ( granted in decreasing numbers ) they cant do much else, they aren't running the club , they don't buy the poor expensive players that we have had over the years. So who does run the club who is responsible for getting us into such a shambolic state It's all just bad luck and we should appreciate what a difficult job it is and get behind the boys, Just what some people on here think we have been doing by going down to watch the utter tripe they are turning out is beyond me.
Still onward and upwards eh, or maybe more likely backward and downwards, what does it matter as as long as the bowl of Gravy is still there to dip their bread in.

jo jumbuck what a pessimistic moaner you are.All clubs have ups and downs. We were the best team in superleague just a few years ago. We signed many internationals/origin players and still our support wasn`t strong enough to warrant the expenditure needed. Hence our concentration on commercial sponsorship, a sound business decision. The board makes decisions on what they believe to be in the clubs best interest. It doesn`t always work out, but thats sport. However when our club is going through a less successful period on the field thats when we need support more than ever. Everyone is trying on the playing side, their jobs depend on it. So lets get behind the players, the chairman, M.D>, and everyone else. When you are doing your job, do you think it would help to have someone (unqualified) to be telling you how wrong you were doing things and how if you listened to them it would be so much better? Listen to the podcast again and you may have a better understanding.

Fair enough mate, you have your opinion and i mine, and i reckon 30 years of supporting gives me a right to one . regards telling them they are wrong I would have thought the level the club have fallen to would have been a fair indicator of that. I would suggest when it gets to name calling it's a sign of a lost argument.