Dumb - Jake Wardle 30 yds out last play of extra time, he taps and runs it in maybe an assist by Michael Lawrence for dumb captaincy. This was the closest we got to drop a goal and with a ten yard away defence a free go no player pressure

Dumber- Oliver Russell trying to drop a goal from half way and double bouncing a kick into the hands of Matatuia with a 30 yards free run.. got Cas on the front foot and lead to the winning drop goal. He struggles at 30m not 50m should have kicked into the corner

Dumber and Dumber - Kruise Leeming passing into a player on half way fifth tackle deserves dropping has he got a brain ?

Woolford - what the bloody hell does he coach them it ain’t game management or common sense

26-20 three minutes to go and in possession and lose how many dumbs does that deserve SHOCKING defeat snatched from the jaws of victory again and undid all the good things they did !!

Have to agree with most but it's not Woolfords fault. He was fuming with our decision making.

Players like Leeming, Jerry etc just can't cope when the pressure is on. Leeming is a liability in those situations.

We mis a leader desperately on the field. None of our senior players are leaders.

Matagi dreadful tonight. Has 1 good game in every 4 but yet people want him signed up long term. Too inconsistent.

I've said this before we need to get rid of all our overseas players, except Taai. They just don't cut it.

Top 5 gone and Woolford knows it now. Has every right to be annoyed.

No offence to Mellor this is simply about preparing for next year but I'd drop him now and develop Hewitt as we've got nothing to play for realistically. Give young Wilson a chance maybe at prop?

Won't be the last time this happens, well lose another 2-3 games by a point this season.

I thought you played well and were unlucky not to get anything.

It felt like we made the territory more so but you looked far more threatening in our red zone than we did in yours, your passing was a lot more quicker and fluent.

I wouldn't lose sleep over the extra time because that's all golden point is , who can successfully nail a drop goal, players panic especially when near half way, get caught in 2 minds and then execution fails. I don't like it. I'm a big fan of the draw.

I think you're very much in the hunt for top 5 and there's not much at all in it between hull Catalan Cas wakey and hudds which will lead to lots of inconsistent results!

from what i saw when leeming passed the ball think it was watts who stuck is hand out when leeming passed it..is that legal now?

matagi's second stint cost us , two penalties then woolford took him straight off, has one good game every 8 games this guy.

teams make far too many yards against us, are we too small?? well yes we are, lose the ruck and collision too often.

we havent had players who can manage a game for years now, we have seen it so many times, can think back to when we signed hinchcliffe thinking maybe this is the guy to change it but no.

agree about the dumb but, jake wardle running the ball in with 20 seconds left , that was our closest chance to get a drop goal!

Watts was just trying to get to his feet and Leeming threw it into his shoulder.

Those are always going to be penalised the other way now, though if a player stands up near the ruck I’m not convinced it should be.

disagree with criticism of Matagi, thought he vran into their line well and showed good agression.It wasnt the forwards that cost us. Overall we played well, a few errors/wrong decisions at times but cant be too critical. we are becoming a decent team and will win a few games yet.

Totally agree Jumper.

Matagi was good again last night. Think he’s exactly the type of prop we need. Tackles hard and often. Runs strong - and usually wins the ruck.

Couldn't have put it better myself.

Which of our props aren't any good then? As we make absolutely no metres up field compared to teams coming the other way.

its own to our line speed in defence......
We stand and wait for the opposition to come to us, which gives them the momentum and allows them to make metres after contact, other teams push up quickly in defence and so stop our momentum with their own.

surprised some think matago had a good game



he did an 18min stint first half.... taai came on and changed the game for us

matagi came back on second half and gave away two penalties and was subbed soone after... how is that a good game?

and im sorry but we lose the ruck and collision in tackles far too often and it puts us under pressure, we need some size.... ikahihifo could help on that front but hes frozen out.

when you think how much of our salary cap is not playing it makes you wonder something has gone wrong....... uate / frawley / ikahihifo / cudjoe.... got to be 4 of our biggest earners... imagine any other team having the size of that out of their team.... and 3 of them can actually play right now!

So are you suggesting Matagi is dropped for seb

well thats not going to happen is it

an in form seb id pick over most sl props in the league... shame woolford froze him out as he wants that cap space to bring someone else in.

a matagi one good game in every 7 or a seb 1 good game every 3?

have them both in the team if you like i dont mind..

matagi needs to be more consistent for me.

Seb didn’t have one good game in a season - if we are comparing what he showed he was capable of in 2017. He’s not been in form has he.

Not a fan of either Seb or Matagi. Seb was dire the whole of 2018, a fraction of the player he wasn't in 2017.

Matagi, like Brearley says has 1 good game every now and again, not adequate for me.

seb was ok in 2018...no worse than the rest, he had a few injury problems

for me we should have tried to get him back to the 2017 form, we know what he can do, but woolford went the wrong way about it and i thought it might end up how it had, what a waste

Woolford wanted to see him step up- he’s failed to do that- disappointing.
One thing woolford has banged on about since he arrived is resilience- has seb shown any resilience?

6-0 up we are in possession and instead of driving the ball upfield we go sideways force a pass and bingo 6-6

Murphy Stops the play the ball why?... bingo 10 minutes in the bin but on the one occasion we tried to take a quick one play is stopped ref out of position. Wakey do the same ref out of position play on ... consistency NO !!

Almost half time we give it to Mellor !!!! to kick bingo straight out ball back and right on half time try 16-10 ‘farcical’ We had chance to get the fullback before the pass but no..... we just look at him watch him run across the line and pass and try...

Then the Woolford team talk and we turn up after half time and get dominated and bullied... Give away another stupid try (Leroy) and again look as if we don't know each other.

If we can’t motivate with jobs on the line then we deserve everything we get !!!

Our line speed and drive 2nd half was so slow hadwe been the Titanic we would have missed the iceberg..

Where does it go from here ??

Having watched the highlights it looks even worse

Agree with everything apart from Murphy got done for stopping them taking a quick tap yet their guy kicks the ball away near the end after he penalises them yet no son binning, no consistency from the ref apart from being one-eyed, not blaming him for one minute, but I'm sick of watching poor officials. They were there for the taking and as you muted the score after our first try and the one before half time were the game changes. Onwards and upwards to Salford

Preventing a quick tap is a sin binning. Kicking the ball away after being pulled for offside(which he wasn't) isn't. Maybe you need to brush up on the rules.

The rule is different the ball is dead and Murphy prevented time for a quick tap. Oh you didn't mention the Huddersfield player who had a paddy and threw the ball away after knocking on. We have had players binned for that not seen any other team suffer a binning as yet!

Since when is dropping on a loose ball a penalty? We knock on, another man in front of him drops on the loose ball - see that all the time but no this ref gives a penalty for the man dropping on the ball being offside- First offences is the knock on so scrum down!

wow you really don't know the rules of the game at all do you, I'll try explain this simply.
firstly it doesn't happen all the time, if you seen it done then the ref is at fault

your player has knocked which would lead to a scrum if he'd picked it up but it wasn't, it was then shudds player stood in front of him in an offside position which you admit to this, this then stops the play, had it been a Wakey player picking the ball up and not made any yardage a scrum would of been given, had the said player gained yardage play would of continued and advantage given. first offence is when both team players knock on on the same play

by the way thanks for the points this season

must have been about 9-2 pen counts in wildcats favour at one point...

wont want to see that ref again anytime soon

we are the most penalised team in the league though

but that has been going on for years and years

Yeah those points we’ve given You have kept you from relegation. You should be grateful.

The first offence is the knock on, seen plenty of offside players prevent the opposition picking up the ball, and it’s never been given as a penalty. Ever.