Australia never ever looked stretched in that game and they stuffed England yet again. What a joke Super League is!!! Yet Super League is the be all and end all as we kill the game off in the heartlands and spread the game to the welcoming arms of the Welsh and Londoners we will surely beat the Ozziies with a combined team of Welsh and Londoners. Rugby League is a real joke now. We need to get back to looking after our own. 2 professional leagues of 12 teams in the heartlands with promotion and relegation will get the interest and the passion back. We also need the British Lions back.

Rugby League will be dead in England in 10 years if things don't change. It isn't even called Rugby League now - it is called Super League - isn't that women's football or basketball??

Could you imagine an English team in the NRL, they wood win the wooden spoon every time.

Next season in the Championship we have a 10 team league with no promotion or relegation. That really will draw the crowds in won't it. The game is dying because of the idiots in charge and everyone of us it letting this happen.

I heard people congratulating the RFL for helping us out with the HMRC. If the RFL gave every club a decent salary cap whereby we could attract investors this would not happen. The RFL are making us into a poor feeder club so please don't thank them when they seemingly come to our rescue. They along with SL have taken away the heart of the game whereby every team has a chance to go right to the very top and win the Challenge cUp and the Grand Final.

No League is dead thanks to SL and RFL, The Meerkat and Nigel Woods.

If the RFL hadn't stepped in there would be no Leigh Centurions.

True but I don't agree with the payouts between the league......ALL 3 divisions should get equal money each year, Even Champ1 clubs should get the same as SL clubs IMO.

SL clubs get more money through sponsorships and season ticket sales etc - so why should they get more money than lower league clubs from the RFL/SKY deal, its a joke and is killing the lower league clubs and the no promotion/relegation doesn't help either.

Agree that the RFL only want lower league clubs to be used as feeder clubs so we can help develop the SL players by the way of the duel contract system thats in place.

Its what the individual teams can bring to rugby league, not what they can get out of the rugby league. Superleague clubs get more money because they do have good sponsorships and they do generate bigger attendances which in turn raises the profile of the game. I have to agree with the last point however, the rugby league does appear to be wanting the lower teams as feeder clubs, especially the div 1 teams. But i suppose just like in life itself....only the strong survive and the weak and sick ultimately get devoured. Not nice i know but nonetheless a fact.

Trouble is though' as a lot of us predicted' the introduction of franchising would ultimately lead to the demise of the professional game sooner rather than later and outside non relegation league first.

Does anyone now seriously believe that the clubs who currently have franchises will now lose them ? Of course not.

Improve your club is the RFL's retort. What happens if you do ? Well you stay where you are and the best players you produce will be cherrypicked by the elite.

Any promising local talent goes into a scholarship with a franchised side and to give them competative game time they are loaned out to Non promotable clubs and the cycle continues again.

It is pathetic demoralising and suicidal. No competition ie no promotion/relegation you get stagnation. We have a cartel now not a sport. Cartels are illegal in commerce for obvious reasons (Well they are in the western world).

Wyswyg is bang on and every rational person knows it.

Here is another prediction. Quins will go out of existence soon but no Championship club will get the franchise( ie the Quins one) they currently hold.

I see what WYSIWYG means, but I was really hoping we would win, and not being amused by if we lost 'heavily'.
BUT obviously SUPER LEAGUE is not producing enough talent at international level. We are not the only SPORT to embrace 'overseas' players, England CC & RU do it. The likes of Heighington, Chase, Widdop, & Reed go 'straight' into our team......WHY ?????? So 'in the end' we conceded as many points as Wales did to New Zealand - still enjoyed our game though, but yet again we have to listen to Australia being 'gracious in victory' and saying how well WE played - agggghhh !!!

If the RFL and SL gave us an equal footing then there would be no need to go to the RFL with cap in hand for a bail out. They really have you sorted. The RFL and SL are killing the game in the heartlands and you need to wake up. If we had a few million salary cap then we could attract investors and challenge SL but the RFL won't le tus so THANK YOU RFL!!!!!!! NOT!!!!!

This exact topic has been taken off Virtual Terrace. It really is a joke. It's like Communist Russia.

Why do you think I have stopped watching RL after 50 years, I would rather watch paint dry now!! Rugby Union and Football have relegation and promotion and are far better sports now!!!!

The topic has been locked again. :O) It's a bl00dy joke :O) Don't call SL or you will be banned!!!!!

Frank , you have agreed with me at last :O)

I am married though :O)

I have had the same argument banned 3 times from the VT message board. Stuff RL I've had enough of it.

If youv'e had enough why do you keep going on and on about it?

Eff Off J.C. I can say what I want so eff off again :O)

VT locked me out again. It really is Communism!! Eff off VT and free speech!!! :O)

and the game in general then why do you keep going on about it?

No it hasn't. What's been locked on the VT is a rant you started slagging off the moderation of this site in breach of the AUP. FYI, your original thread is alive and well on the International RL forum.

Now I'd recommend you put the keyboard down, go to bed and sober up, before you make a total fool of yourself.

WYSISWG..............Just proves you don`t always recover from tb.

TB's lowered himself to our Mb. well d0ne wysiwyg





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If the RFL weren't such clowns the championship wouldn't have been so degraded and Leigh might not have been in such a mess.

I fear for the game because of the clowns in charge, but what's much scarier than that is the number of people on these boards that step up to defend them. The fans won't save the game because too many think things are just fine. Any act of basic competence is lauded, completely missing the point that they have no direction, no realism, basically no bleedin' clue whatsoever. Very unimpressive people, leader is an accountant - wow how inspiring. And I'm sorry to insult the obese, but you know what, in 95% or more cases it comes down to not having the discipline to eat less and exercise more, and I don't want to see a big fat mess running a sport which is about athleticism and inspiring kids to play sport and lead healthy lives. There.

Yeah screw 42,000 at Wembley and lesser nations like Wales keeping New Zealand to under 40 at Wembley, let's play England - Australia in Featherstone and those sheep shaggers should be forced to play Serbia for the next five centuries before we even decide to grace them with our presence.

Give us chance to get our 2 new stands up and we may just about squeeze 42,000 in




(And our pies won't be £3.50 each

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(And you may, just may be able to get a pint of acorn beer (copyright Charlie C

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The day they stopped promotion and relegation stifffling any ambition in the lower leagues, was the day rugby league died in my eyes.
The game is in its death throes and there is too much indifference for anyone to do anything about it.
The Super League pigs have their snouts in the trough and are clearly indifferent to the damage they are doing to the many clubs they are keeping out.

The RFL are not the reason for the state of our club. Other factors were the cause. I also don't think the RFLs policies are not for the good of the game but they helped to save our club from the brink of disaster. Fact.

Australia did look troubled.
We don't need the Lions back.
A Super League team wouldn't win the wooden spoon every time.

I agree with what everything said about the demise of our game. In the last 5 years it has gone alarming backwards.

Too many meaningless games, not enough competitiveness, no interest no crowds.

This was re-iterated on soccer saturday recently, when non promotion/relegation bewteen the Premiership and Championship was debated. It was dismissed as pure stupidity.

The direction RFL leaders are taking the game is suicidal. Our game is dieing.

I have been an ardent RL for 50 years and I am also becoming very disinterested.

Look at the prospect for clubs outside the championship with the amount of travelling the supporters have to undertake that league will be the first to die.

The championship wont be much different either we are on a slippy slide and unless the SKY money is increased for the lower leagues then pro rugby outside of super league will be a thing of the past.