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| Quote ="mr. chairman"lies lies and more lies , what meetings have bee cancelled , we have agreed twice to sign a lease then they moved the goal post . they made 170 k last year from renting the pitches , they don't maintain there side of the clubhouse , the underfloor heating as been on in the clubhouse 24 hrs a day for the last 5 years , great maintainance that , Leigh east have spent over 10k maintaining the bar and function room . it's time for a public forum to get to the truth , why will they not do it'"
Council wasting money then shafting those they think have it - never!!!!!!!!
Collect the outstanding rent and rates from the scrounges to increase income, its a lot more than the the few grand on offer here
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| I think it's important that Leigh East issue a further statement to answer the allegations about cancelled meetings, and also, answer point by point the items you are saying are lies such as East's innacurate responses. This needs to be done ASAP whilst the item is high on the social media, otherwise it could be yesterdays chip papper to those not directly involved.
This sort of response for example from Wigan council to a tweeter
"Leigh East is a great club and we think it has a great future. We’ve asked the club to discuss terms with us but they’ve cancelled our meetings. We’ve worked with them for many years so we’re disappointed they have been making inaccurate claims about their relationship with the council. We want to find a solution to this issue. They know our door is open and we’re ready to talk."
Also, obviously raise all the good points being made on here and elsewhere.
Oh and another thought, Si Reynard brought up the fact that Wigan and other teams wouldn't be able to show interest in Sam Hopkins without Leigh East...which led me to thinking the club would do well to issue a list of all players who have gone on to play semi/pro, and the actual numbers of registered players over the years - children especially
#saveLeighEast
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| How much does the Council contribute to Robin Park?
Keith, you must set up a public meeting and get the press involved. Invite the council, if they turn up you can't lose, if they don't you still win, that would speak volumes.
Anyone who has been remotely involved in East knows what a fanatastic job they do and how much they inspire the youth of Leigh to do something useful with their spare time.
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| People who love Leigh East more than they love the Wigan Council should fight for the East cause. From what I can gather, comments from various councillors on here seem mis guided, they don't seem to know the full facts and are trying to be clever with words. They refer to large 'subsidies' - that doesn't mean that East get the money they refer to as 'subsidies' although the wording does suggest that they do. Different councillors make fools of themselves by saying things that are factually wrong - have we had an official statement from Wigan MBC yet following the press release from Leigh East - That is the one we should read and then pull to pieces - when it comes.
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| Quote ="leigh-ratii" - have we had an official statement from Wigan MBC yet following the press release from Leigh East - .'"
Yes, it is on the previous page.
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| I must admit that words used in that Wigan council press release could help to sway public opinion away from Leigh East. And they know it.
East cancelling council meetings to discuss the situation,East not paying towards the maintenance of the club house despite bar profits of £10k, a responsibility for tax payers money spent more equally in the community etc etc
Disgraceful behaviour by the council.
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| BTW if you ever get the council to agree to a public meeting we'll come down and broadcast it on Leighlife.
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| Quote ="Snowy"Subs were £3 a week when I played for Easts over 20 years ago. With the facilities they have, £4 is a bargain.
Agree that £10 would be too much to ask.
It would be interesting to see what the councils vision is should the club fold (i sincerley hope it doesn't). They would probably lose even more !!
Heres praying for a bit of common sense, and well done to Janet who put Easts side of the story to Beswick well. Its just a pity no-one from the council had to balls to debate it live. Beswick would have had a field day !!'"
subs are £6 a week.i think £4 goes to the club and the other goes into the team as well as what funds the parents can make during the season.not sure at the miners I think its either £2.50 or £3 per week
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Sorry try this one
www.wigan.gov.uk/News/CouncilRes ... ghEast.htm
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Sorry try this one
www.wigan.gov.uk/News/CouncilRes ... ghEast.htm
Then click on the unhappy face at the bottom which then allows you to leave a message
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| Quote ="michael b"subs are £6 a week.i think £4 goes to the club and the other goes into the team as well as what funds the parents can make during the season.not sure at the miners I think its either £2.50 or £3 per week'"
6 quid a week! Bloody hell must be a more wealthy lot over there - it's £15 a month at Miners with discounts for siblings (and there are no bar proceeds either). Still, I hope things turn out okay for the black and reds!
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| Quote ="Brad Fittler Fan Club"6 quid a week! Bloody hell must be a more wealthy lot over there - it's £15 a month at Miners with discounts for siblings (and there are no bar proceeds either). Still, I hope things turn out okay for the black and reds!'"
I think its £4 for a second child but 2 kids a tenner a week is stretching it but if it goes upto say £10 a child you could be paying anywhere say between £60-£80 a month for 2 kids and £40 for one child(only a rough guide).of course the council are not bothered about things like this,they just appeare to have blinkers on and seem to just want to go one way.
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| Quote ="Brad Fittler Fan Club"6 quid a week! Bloody hell must be a more wealthy lot over there - it's £15 a month at Miners with discounts for siblings (and there are no bar proceeds either). Still, I hope things turn out okay for the black and reds!'"
Lets be honest, the facilities available at East are far better than the Miners.
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| Quote ="michael b"I think its £4 for a second child but 2 kids a tenner a week is stretching it but if it goes upto say £10 a child you could be paying anywhere say between £60-£80 a month for 2 kids and £40 for one child(only a rough guide).of course the council are not bothered about things like this,they just appeare to have blinkers on and seem to just want to go one way.'"
Is that junior section because what rent do they pay compared to east for their fields because if east rent was lower im sure subs would be less
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| Quote ="Snowy"Lets be honest, the facilities available at East are far better than the Miners.'"
In what way? - East junior section has use of the outside pitch and the plastic pitch - Manchester Road has the main full size pitch, 2 further full sized pitches, 2 mod-league pitches and 2 mini-league pitches. In winter the junior section utilises the all-weather facilities at Bedford High, Lowton & St Marys. Work has just commenced on extending the clubhouse/changing rooms. So in what way is Leigh East facilities FAR BETTER than Miners?
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| It certainly is well said
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"no need to for arguments regarding facilities we know that Leigh miners are backing Leigh east fully in our fight against Wigan council , banter is fine arguments are not . the whole of the rugby fraternity and everyone in the borough who cares are backing Leigh east and we would do the same if the shoe was on the other foot , [size=150it's a time of miners , east and centurions coming together to fight something that affects us all'" [/size
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| Quote ="Brad Fittler Fan Club"In what way? - East junior section has use of the outside pitch and the plastic pitch - Manchester Road has the main full size pitch, 2 further full sized pitches, 2 mod-league pitches and 2 mini-league pitches. In winter the junior section utilises the all-weather facilities at Bedford High, Lowton & St Marys. Work has just commenced on extending the clubhouse/changing rooms. So in what way is Leigh East facilities FAR BETTER than Miners?
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| Quote ="cherry & white"How can they say they are acting in the interest of spending the tax payers money when the council bailed out the LSV as a whole to the tune of £500,000 last year? they have 2 execs who run the village and are paid over £100,000 a year.
secondly why would they want the bar when they have been franchising there own out? they run very few bars now? the one at the stadium? monaco? let Leigh east franchise it out if thats the case!
Top and bottom every year they move the goal post and offer empty promises, the people we deal with are bullies and are ultimately puppets for LPS. Why should we trust them when everything they have given or offered they have subsequently taken away.
Yours Frustrated parent'"
The council must be bonkers if they think that the Administrative Incompetents that are, the LSV,can operate the clubhouse. It is no secret I,m sure Mr Chairman will vouch that the the SMT @ Leigh Sports Village have wanted total control of the "Pavilion" since the stadium was handed over in 2008.
LSV have approx 24 employees,guesstimate salary £550,000. That takes some finding for a sports stadium that by its own admission can only take 40 fixtures per year. The rent for office space and tenancy agreements i would think/hope cover the utitilities and other running costs. I believe the original management structure for the Lsv called for a stadium manager to oversee the day to day running and responsibility to various staff (groundsmen,marketing, maintainance), answering to a board of directors made up of various council employees. looking through the archives i can find no advertised vacancies for a CEO or Operations Director. Ivory towers need to fall and the original vision needs to be revisited. A community stadium with affordable/quality spectator facilities. opposed to a facility sold to the highest bidder.
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[urlhttp://www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/lobbying-and-campaigning/consultations/05-06-2013/community-amateur-sports-clubs-scheme[/url
Have you seen the attached?
This part especially...
Level of social (ie non-sporting) income: This will effectively limit the amount of social income (eg bar and restaurant income, venue hire etc) that can be generated by a club. Different sports may be affected to varying degrees by these proposals but some clubs could potentially be adversely affected (although ultimately there should be the option to establish a trading subsidiary to enable all clubs to remain in the scheme). Sport will also need to be aware of plans to define a social member and a guest for the purposes of the scheme. - See more at: www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/lo ... zDSt4.dpuf
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[urlhttp://www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/lobbying-and-campaigning/consultations/05-06-2013/community-amateur-sports-clubs-scheme[/url
Have you seen the attached?
This part especially...
Level of social (ie non-sporting) income: This will effectively limit the amount of social income (eg bar and restaurant income, venue hire etc) that can be generated by a club. Different sports may be affected to varying degrees by these proposals but some clubs could potentially be adversely affected (although ultimately there should be the option to establish a trading subsidiary to enable all clubs to remain in the scheme). Sport will also need to be aware of plans to define a social member and a guest for the purposes of the scheme. - See more at: www.sportandrecreation.org.uk/lo ... zDSt4.dpuf
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| e-mail sent to w*gan mbc.
Keep fighting all at Leigh East.
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| If you look at the Wards represented on Wigan Council you can identify about ten that must have Centurions fans living in them, namely:- Leigh East, Leigh South, Leigh West, Astley/Mosley Common, Atherleigh, Atherton, Hindley, Hindley Green, Tyldesley and Lowton East. This means that there are thirty councillors that can be approached, these councillors hold surgeries to discuss problems with their constituents. So get mithering.
Interestingly Councillor Cunliffe (Leigh East) is a member of the Cabinet and Councillor Whiteside (Leigh West) is Chairman, Children & Young Peoples Scrutiny Committee, not forgetting the big boss himself, Lord Smith allegedly represents Leigh West.
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