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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Lots of people of upped their LISA membership fees to double today, including our new CEO .'"
I had a brilliant response so far , to the appeal for 1000 members but what I ve also got is people upping their membership to double, which is brilliant, as I said, our new CEO is also doing this.
We all need to pull together here and get what we all want, a team to support next year.
FWIW I dont want a seat on the board neither for all my hard work, my pleasure will be to know that Ive done the best I could to save my club.
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| Quote ="Marto"its the other way around. the supporters trust is the club. the same as rochdale'"
Rochdale, who are currently third in Championship 1 for those that think the model doesn't work. They're also not far from posting a small profit. Obviously as a supporter owned club, that profit will be reinvested into the club rather than lining the pockets of a sugar daddy.
Oh and they don't own their stadium either so have very few money making avenues from that.
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| Quote ="maurice"Classic, stay to Red Lion XIII in the conference.
£5,000,000 a month coming from fans - get back onto the VT, they enjoy $hit like this.'"
Maurice your climbing aboard that big horse again .
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| Quote ="maurice"I know that and they play in a pub league for non heartlands clubs to help expand the game - Leeds not heartlands FFS'"
nor is huddersfield, warrington, and dewsbury, but they are still in there too.
regardless of where we play and what competition it is. the point is, we had our club taken away from us because the then owners decided they were bored and shut it down.
we wouldnt let it die, we run the club, we control the club and no one person can cause us to fail.
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| Quote ="SD1"Great idea but how is the money put into the club going to be used? I'm aware the current problems are due to external circumstances but if the money you all put in is going to be spent on players (a stated aim of LISA), how do you propose that the club is going to become sustainable? Simply buying players isn't going to do it. And what happens when this money runs out? Do you do another appeal for more members or wait for the knight on his white horse to come along again and again?
If I were a Leigh supporter I'd be questioning where my money has been going to in the last few years since the club appears to have been reliant on an external benefactors contributions which, now it is no longer there, has left the club up the creek without a paddle. It obviously hasn't been spent on making your club sustainable.'"
You haven't grasped the situation we find ourselves in , we have had a benefactor making up the shortfall from what the club can ' earn ' via playing RL and ' raise ' via donation , this benefactor has found himself very rapidly in a position of no longer being able to make up this shortfall , therefore to secure the short term future of the club , we need an influx of cash , what we are suggesting is a large scale increase in the monies provided both by the LISA membership ( fans ) , and the corporate Club ( sponsors ) for a period of time until more long term plans can be arranged
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Marto, is From Bramley Neil and they have a supporters trust
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as well as being from bramley, i'm involved with Supporters Direct as their rugby league director, so you could be right that i'm crazy
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| Quote ="Starbug"You haven't grasped the situation we find ourselves in , we have had a benefactor making up the shortfall from what the club can ' earn ' via playing RL and ' raise ' via donation , this benefactor has found himself very rapidly in a position of no longer being able to make up this shortfall , therefore to secure the short term future of the club , we need an influx of cash , what we are suggesting is a large scale increase in the monies provided both by the LISA membership ( fans ) , and the corporate Club ( sponsors ) for a period of time until more long term plans can be arranged'"
which is great, but who owns the club? by the time you've done all this hard work someone could have come in and bought the club, thanked you for your cash and then decided that they want nothing to do with you (as in LISA and the corporate club).
so why not be doing both?
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"I had a brilliant response so far , to the appeal for 1000 members but what I ve also got is people upping their membership to double, which is brilliant, as I said, our new CEO is also doing this.
We all need to pull together here and get what we all want, a team to support next year.
FWIW I dont want a seat on the board neither for all my hard work, my pleasure will be to know that Ive done the best I could to save my club.'"
You have a shareholder husband who has access to all financials by right, transparency comes with a shareholding - you still do not understand that being a Director/Sitting on the board is very different to having a shareholding. Oh and if that was a dig at me, I attend too many board meetings as it is - very over rated imho.
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| I didnt mean you that was crazy lol
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| Quote ="Marto"nor is huddersfield, warrington, and dewsbury, but they are still in there too.
regardless of where we play and what competition it is. the point is, we had our club taken away from us because the then owners decided they were bored and shut it down.
we wouldnt let it die, we run the club, we control the club and no one person can cause us to fail.'"
Martyn , a trust might well be the way forward for Leigh in the future , either as a part of the club management structure , or as a shareholding funding organization , but right now , all it would do is confuse the issue , and most probably reduce the potential for raising money quickly
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| Quote ="Marto"which is great, but who owns the club? by the time you've done all this hard work someone could have come in and bought the club, thanked you for your cash and then decided that they want nothing to do with you (as in LISA and the corporate club).
so why not be doing both?'"
or you put money in to be swallowed in an existing overdraft. Let the different groups get the cash and work with whatever/whoever takes over the club.
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| Quote ="Marto"which is great, but who owns the club? by the time you've done all this hard work someone could have come in and bought the club, thanked you for your cash and then decided that they want nothing to do with you (as in LISA and the corporate club).
so why not be doing both?'"
The cash raised from LISA is drip fed to the club , not all given in one lump sum , personally I do hope we get a single investor , as what we are looking to raise will still not manage to keep the club at it's current level , but it will keep us playing , and that is the main concern ATM
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| Quote ="Starbug"Martyn , a trust might well be the way forward for Leigh in the future , either as a part of the club management structure , or as a shareholding funding organization , but right now , all it would do is confuse the issue , and most probably reduce the potential for raising money quickly'"
or it could work against you, in that people will react to a crisis, once the initial hurdle is over come and the short term future is sorted. people will think that everythings hunky dory and the panic is over and theres no need to look at owning some or all of the club.
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| Quote ="maurice"You have a shareholder husband who has access to all financials by right, transparency comes with a shareholding - you still do not understand that being a Director/Sitting on the board is very different to having a shareholding. Oh and if that was a dig at me, I attend too many board meetings as it is - very over rated imho.'"
Quite possibly I do , but I haven't asked for that information , and I am not going to do , it isn't anything to do with me
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quite possibly I do , but I haven't asked for that information , and I am not going to do , it isn't anything to do with me'"
you need to remember to log out and log back in as you
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| Quote ="Marto"or it could work against you, in that people will react to a crisis, once the initial hurdle is over come and the short term future is sorted. people will think that everythings hunky dory and the panic is over and theres no need to look at owning some or all of the club.'"
Well that will be down to whoever gets their hands on the majority shareholding
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| Quote ="Marto"you need to remember to log out and log back in as you
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"I had a brilliant response so far , to the appeal for 1000 members but what I ve also got is people upping their membership to double, which is brilliant, as I said, our new CEO is also doing this.
We all need to pull together here and get what we all want, a team to support next year.
FWIW I dont want a seat on the board neither for all my hard work, my pleasure will be to know that Ive done the best I could to save my club.'"
How could LISA be on the board?.
If you had a thousand members you would need to ask them What they want then they would need to reply through letter,txt or e.mail then you'd take the majority veiw then pass that to the rest of the board then act on it.It would take an age to get anything done.
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| Quote ="j.c"How could LISA be on the board?.
If you had a thousand members you would need to ask them What they want then they would need to reply through letter,txt or e.mail then you'd take the majority veiw then pass that to the rest of the board then act on it.It would take an age to get anything done.'"
no not at all.
the way it works for us is that the BOD are installed by the members and we run the club on a day to day operation. we can make operational decisions and strategic ones regarding the running of the club. if we wanted to move to another ground or change our name we would have to take it to the shareholders.
it works like that for other shareholder companies too.
ASDA or Tesco don't contact every share holder when they want to increase the price of a loaf.
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quite possibly I do , but I haven't asked for that information , and I am not going to do , it isn't anything to do with me'"
Sorry Ste, it was that old red herring she threw out again - no need for it when we are asking fans to dig deep and change our future. Some will follow the LISA way, some the shareholder partneship, some both - the key being they get involved. Some fans may read the carp and be influenced by the bloke on his barstool.
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Sorry most on here know that DJ is the misses
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Sorry most on here know that DJ is the misses
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| Quote ="Starbug"Sorry most on here know that DJ is the misses
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yeah i know, but the question was aimed at her and you answered and the way the answer read it could have been either of you replying.
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| Quote ="J20"Just thinking LISA have a good working relationship with the club don't they?
When you visit the Widnes website you are first greeted by a screen to join the Vikings stronghold. Maybe you could try and do something similar so when ever anybody gies to visit the Leigh site they are initially greeted with a screen suggesting and laying out joining LISA?'"
Its all in hand
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