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| Ask him what he thinks about wigan rugby though
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| Quote ="hatty"You mean like Warrington last year then? Funny isn't it how it's now no longer important, especially when your not winning it
You mention the super league on here more than we do on our site, your not in it so get over it, the lower leagues are destined to become feeder clubs, either that or there will be an even bigger divide between the leagues, more than there is now. Oh and finally, chris Hill is still a wiganer
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Go an play merpy's ont th'eM 6. Pon yed.
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| Quote ="hatty"You mean like Warrington last year then? Funny isn't it how it's now no longer important, especially when your not winning it
You mention the super league on here more than we do on our site, your not in it so get over it, the lower leagues are destined to become feeder clubs, either that or there will be an even bigger divide between the leagues, more than there is now. Oh and finally, chris Hill is still a wiganer
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Watch it Pastry girl .
Chris is a Leyther currently playing for Warrington ask him.
When Championship fans accept feeder club status' pro RL will die a very quick death.
Is Richard Lewis a Pie lad or is he from Oldham like you ?
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| ....and so it begins. I seem to remember someone mentioning this last week. So Leeds will send players to them, no doubt players from the soon to be scrapped SL academy age group.
How will this affect the Championships?
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| I think it is a bad move.
Next season we won't be playing Hunslet Hawks we'll be playing Leeds Reserves Hawks.
It's York I feel sorry for they will be at the beck and call of the biggest club in the world.
This new innovation will set the pulses of fans of all Championship clubs racing and will undoubtably lead to increased crowds everywhere.
I honestly think Richard Lewis was sent to the RFL by the RFU to plant a virus. Very sneaky.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"....and so it begins. I seem to remember someone mentioning this last week. So Leeds will send players to them, no doubt players from the soon to be scrapped SL academy age group.
How will this affect the Championships?'"
Derek ,i dont think Leigh will become a feeder Club , the Directors and PR , will only allow whats best for us .
Also my brother-in -law was a guest in my Birthday box for the Fax game , he coaches St Judes u18s team ,and after looking at the feature on our u18s team in the programme , commented that St Judes u18s would beat our team easily .
In the future i would prefer seeing young Wiganers in our team , than ageing or ex-Wiganers in our team ,for me once they put on a Leigh shirt they are Leythers , my brother-in-law has coached and rates Craig Briscoe very highly ,Wigan have some very talented youngsters ,one to watch is Lewis Tierney ,my tip for the top in about 5-6 years time , maybe in a Leigh shirt before that .
We must realise in todays economic climate , we cannot sustain a reserve grade team , hopefully in the future this may change , but until it does , DCs will be at Leigh.
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| But we are running a reserve grade next season aren't we.
Will it be a fair league when half the clubs are playing the next generation of SL players supplied to them by super league clubs.
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| Running an affordable reserve side is needed to contend for honours & become a successful team IMO. At the minute if you don't play then you train & that's it surely it's better to be able to play rugby than just train & get rusty? Running a reserves we're able to have strength in depth & competion for places while also this provides players coming back from injury match fitness.
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| The board of directors can paint it any way they want. If a Leigh team turns out next season with 6 D.C.'s from one club, then in my eyes that makes us a feeder club.
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| Lets see if PR claiming we are not doing that at the recent fans forum holds true. Good to see your still around Ste.
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| If you look Hunslet have stated they are not going to be a feeder club for Leeds , and i dont think we will be a feeder club either , IF we linked up with Wigan , the players would be coming from Wigan to Leigh , not the other way round , so how would we be feeding them ?
As for our reserves next season , im not to sure what age group they will be in ?I dont think it would be u23s , we have done alright with our DCs this season , maybe a little erratic in game availability , but i still like the system , i love watching Brierley , like Laithwaite ,was a fan of Rhys Evans , Matty Blythe , and Tyke Mcarthey , so me it works , maybe not perfect , but what is perfect in this world ?
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| Because by playing 6 players who are registered to another club and whom you have no control over, you make yourself the reserve team of that club.
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| It is plain wrong and Championship Clubs should tell the RFL that this is a non starter.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"If you look Hunslet have stated they are not going to be a feeder club for Leeds , and i dont think we will be a feeder club either , IF we linked up with Wigan , the players would be coming from Wigan to Leigh , not the other way round , so how would we be feeding them ?
As for our reserves next season , im not to sure what age group they will be in ?I dont think it would be u23s , we have done alright with our DCs this season , maybe a little erratic in game availability , but i still like the system , i love watching Brierley , like Laithwaite ,was a fan of Rhys Evans , Matty Blythe , and Tyke Mcarthey , so me it works , maybe not perfect , but what is perfect in this world ?'"
I think people have different views but if clubs are going to do what Hunslet are planning on doing then surely the clubs should consult the fans first and the RFL should (if sanctioning this move or type of takeover) perhaps have a document fans can read on the internet so we know exactly what it entails.
Personally I have no desire to watch a team of hybrid players from other teams fighting for a spot for the 'mother' club by playing for the club I follow.
Perhaps feeder is the wrong word - perhaps 'training club' is more appropriate for what Hunslet Hawks have now become and other lazy unambitious clubs who follow that model.
This development to the current dual system is exceptionally bad news for Championship clubs supporters IMO as I'm afraid it has implications on substantionally altering the week to week fixtures of a competiton that has plenty wrong off the field but generally on the park has been a wide open competiton for a number of years.
I'm not sure you would have a clue what group of players you are going to be playing against.
A 'Hunslet' team (with Leeds Rhino's players) could be fantastic v Featherstone and win at a canter but the week after if Leeds Rhino's have big injuries and players are recalled then Hunslet v Keighley could be a different type of team and they could lose heavily - that is TOTALLY wrong as it gives this league a totally corrupt set of results with the result that other clubs either end up in a false league position so A) Copy the Hunslet method as they don't want to get relegated or lose week in week out despite putting more effort into maintaining a proper base for local players or having more players on its books - we then end up with a reserve league that could see a exceptional amount of player turn over from week to week or B) Fans decide 'I'd rather watch a proper sport or spend my money on better things' as the competion has become as credible as American Wrestling.
Surely the easier way for all SL clubs is to have a A team (it worked well for generations) thus the SL clubs younger players come up against similar full time SL players who are either returning from injury or are out of form - if its felt they aren't ready for that then send the player on a season (or even minimum 10 match) loans to a Championship club - lets try and keep the sport credible, the product is fantastic but the way things are being run at the moment one wonders what is going on and what the long term future is.
After all with Rhino's reserves players turning out for Hunslet surely we will be reducing the overall amount of players required in RL - A exceptionally bad thing IMO and not one a growing sport should employ.
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| We all like watching young players who have been lent to us when it suits but given the happenings across the Pennines it must stop. If a player is on the register of a Stupid League club then he should not be allowed to play in the Championship.
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| Correct,
We have this ridiculous licensing thing and now Championship clubs are expected to SUBSIDISE Non Relegation clubs developing their reserves.
In all honesty this is something so stupid I am sure Richard Lewis suggested it to the other RFL bigwig officials when they had been on the lash.
No doubt this brainbox Lewis will end up destroying netball and rounders as competative sports now that he has achieved what the RFU planted him in the RFL for.
Bet they won't have him back at the last job he was a failure in.
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| I too have felt uneasy about the D/C culture.
However, we would have been in trouble without it this season. Sure, Paul has managed to accumulate a high quality squad, but one that is simply not big enough to cope with the rigours of the season, when the inevitable injuries occur. In my opinion, he has 'played' the D/C rules to the maximum, and good on him for doing so. But how would he have plugged the gaps this season, without the D/C allowance?
I reckon he will also use it well next season, when the demands on a thin squad will be even greater.
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| Quote ="Alan"I too have felt uneasy about the D/C culture.
However, we would have been in trouble without it this season. Sure, Paul has managed to accumulate a high quality squad, but one that is simply not big enough to cope with the rigours of the season, when the inevitable injuries occur. In my opinion, he has 'played' the D/C rules to the maximum, and good on him for doing so. But how would he have plugged the gaps this season, without the D/C allowance?
I reckon he will also use it well next season, when the demands on a thin squad will be even greater.'"
Totally agree Alan , as ive said you cant please everybody , but as you say Paul R has worked the system as he sees fit , i think we all know Paul is his own man , and will do what he thinks best for Leigh Centurions , he stated at the begining of the season he would only bring in the DCs that suited him .
I for one cant see him allowing up to the said 6 DCs play in our team , it wont happen , for me just Scaremongering , this 6 players thing is just a Rumour , i dont think it will happen .
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| Quote ="L3YTH"Because by playing 6 players who are registered to another club and whom you have no control over, you make yourself the reserve team of that club.'"
Yes but... you also make it more affordable to run a second team with a SL club contracting 6 of the squad, rather than the Champ club having to find the money, and you raise the standard of the reserve grade competition at the same time, so improving the quality of those players on semi-pro contracts when they come into the senior squad.
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| Quote ="Wembley71"Yes but... you also make it more affordable to run a second team with a SL club contracting 6 of the squad, rather than the Champ club having to find the money, and you raise the standard of the reserve grade competition at the same time, so improving the quality of those players on semi-pro contracts when they come into the senior squad.'"
But if that's the case wouldn't it impact on the development of players in the Leigh area joining Leigh's reserve side ?
I obviously take your point but it seems to me' and it would seem to the vast majority of supporters of other Championship clubs' that this deal helps one club more than the other and the gainer is the Non Relegation club.
This would cause fans to give up on supporting Championship rugby and not surprisingly that is what has happened since promotion and relegation to and from the top league was ended by a ludicrous experiment.
A ludicrous experiment I might had that has made it hard to introduce new fans to the game because they can't get their head round why some clubs can never aspire to be in the top league in the game.
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| So where do the other 14 or so players from each sl club as they jettison their U20's.
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| Aren't they also changing U23's age group down. More players left kicking their heels.
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| Quote ="Wembley71"Yes but... you also make it more affordable to run a second team with a SL club contracting 6 of the squad, rather than the Champ club having to find the money, and you raise the standard of the reserve grade competition at the same time, so improving the quality of those players on semi-pro contracts when they come into the senior squad.'"
And who's going to pay £14 to watch what amounts to Super League reserve grade. These won't be Leigh players.
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| Quote ="L3YTH"And who's going to pay £14 to watch what amounts to Super League reserve grade. These won't be Leigh players.'"
If they put on the Leigh shirt , then they are Leigh players ,ive said this before if 17 Eskimoes turn out at the LSV wearing Leigh shirts , then they will be cheered on as Leigh players .
To me Ryan Brierley is a Leigh player when wearing our shirt , im sure all the Fans who cheered on his Match winning try on Friday wouldnt argue .
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