The Club should ask the RL to look at the tackle that caused the injury to JP
It was at best a cheap shot by two players

I think people have forgotten how good Mcgilvary was in the first half of last season.

It's a shame Pownall's injured, but we've got a good replacement.

He was also holding is nose with a cloth when he came off after the " across the chest " tackle according to the ref

Clay should be worth a shot also.......went very well against the French.

The Pownall incident was a bad one. It was indeed a cheap shot and should be looked at by the RFL.

In the first half of the season maybe , ut what about the rest of the season ?

has anyone actually seen the dvd of the incident?

Well Fred certainly has.

Aye Bart, but I can't see any posts from Fred. The hit was just in front of me. Like everyone else I saw it in 'real time'. Normally when a borderline hit goes in I look straight at the ref - half expecting a penalty. But my initial reaction was that he just got cleaned out good and proper with one of a series of big hits that happened on friday. Then I hear (and read) a different view from Leigh fans - that's why I asked if anyone has actually seen the recording - cos I haven't yet - getting a copy tomorrow hopefully.

You're right. We all need to see the incident before passing judgement. To me, 'in real time', it looked like a heavy shoulder charge. There is a suggestion that young Pownall broke his collar bone, which wouldn't make the charge illegal. I suppose the point of interest would be how he got an apparent bang in the face - and exactly what Stuart Dickens then did, when the lad was lying prone. (it didn't seem to be the kiss of life!

) However, just to re-iterate your point, it's all conjecture really.

Someone on here likened it to the Rangi Chase challenge on Ropati. I don't think so! I've watched that one umpteen times and still reckon it was Chase's elbow!

I've broken my nose playing rugby five times Alan. Each time it was in the tackle and on none of the occassions was foul play involved. It happens in contact sport.
Your initial interpretation was (coincidently) exactly how I saw it. But having read and heard all the accounts from Leigh fans I was begining to believe I'd seen it wrongly. - perhaps not. I shall see the recording tomorrow then hopefully I can pass a more informed comment.

Comparisons to the Rangi Chase shot are (IMO) ridiculous. That was an unforgiveable deliberate attempt to harm someone.
Like I said, I will see the vid. If I believe the fev player made a cheap shot, I will say so. I've never ducked owt like this before. I won't start now.

Fred went straight on his hols I think and has no way of commenting untill he gets back to civilisation.

Same as everyone else in the team. I don't think he was the same after he got injured at Sheffield away, don't think he got to 100% anyway.

Judge for yourselves www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFiDu6FaiQ Pownall challenge is at 5 mins 30 secondsish Leigh players flying in from all angles is about 10 seconds later

Judge for yourselves www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFiDu6FaiQ Pownall challenge is at 5 mins 30 secondsish Leigh players flying in from all angles is about 10 seconds later

Quote ="Fevxr2i"Judge for yourselves www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFiDu6FaiQ Pownall challenge is at 5 mins 30 secondsish Leigh players flying in from all angles is about 10 seconds later'" Just watched it and it does look high but for me the cheap shot by Dickens when Pownall is on the floor wasn't necessary

Quote ="Fevxr2i"Judge for yourselves www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxFiDu6FaiQ Pownall challenge is at 5 mins 30 secondsish Leigh players flying in from all angles is about 10 seconds later'" Just watched it and it does look high but for me the cheap shot by Dickens when Pownall is on the floor wasn't necessary

Well having watched it I think he must have caught him on the shoulder hence the injury. Agree about the cheap shot by Dickens.

Oh and a comment on the commentator. I thought he was good and quite amusing every now and again.

Just seen it. From the replay Anthony England wipes him out with a good shot to the shoulder but doesn't complete the tackle tho the player was prone. Dickens (legally) follows it the tackle and agressively (but legally) drops on him finishing the tackle.
Look thru the vid, you see it happen a few times thru the game from both parties.
If either player was cited for that tackle I would have been miffed. Leigh do have the right to cite players if they feel foul play was perpetrated. From what I understand neither players or coach wished to do that on friday.
It was a proper blood n snot game of the old school. No quarter asked or given. We've had players injured this year in what initially looked to be dodgy tackles but after review were simply sustained in the high octaine collision sport we watch.
The actions of Rangi Chase was a deliberate and cynical attempt to injure a player - that's different. I saw nowt from either team that warranted a citation on friday.
I try as best as I can to remain objective and try to avoid the blue n white tinted specs. If I saw it aggressive, daft, foul play, etc - I'd say so - see posts following Tim Spears dismissal v Batley and Ingy's red at Hunslet.
This one I think the ref called right - as apparently did player and coach. [I wasn't party to those conversations so can only post anecdotally.

Cheap shot from Dickens no need whatsoever to follow up with that on the young winger.. I'm sure the Leigh forwards will give the him what he deserves a week Thursday...

oh I sincerely hope so. I'll enjoy keep watching the ref award those penalties!!!

Leigh's team will pay Fev back for that incident Robin.

Our team always play within the rules.

Our coaching team isn't daft. We will close down your halfbacks and have more than one kicker a week Thursday.

Dickens is a master of cheap shots see him many times going in after the tackle with his elbow... hand into the face of oppo players on the ground,tough guys don't need to do that , pity James Taylor is,nt fit for the Centurions I'm sure he would show Dickins the. Correct way to smash oppo players down

Well I agree with you soul boy - I wished he was fit and in an agressive mood. Cos the first time he transgressed the penalty would ome our way!
It happens. Remember the NRC 3-4 years back at our gaff when (Armistead I think it was) took Tommy Haughey out with a head shot - flattening him and got the red card?? We went onto win in what was a very tight game!! That incident cost Leight he game that day IMO. I'd be quite happy to see that again owd cock!
Don't give me all that we're whiter than white at Leigh and wouldn't dream of shifty stuff!!! I have seen us getting some right tonk at the hands of Leigh players in the past. That noteable angel Tim Street was just such a love wasn't he!






Shyte happens! You came second on Friday. On another day you won't. But stop acting like the halos struggle to keep up with the Leigh players!!

It wasn't the fact that he came in with a tackle it was the swinging arm and there is no denying he did it, its there on the vid for all to see, as I said a, cheap shot at Pownall who was already flat out under the big lummox

I didn't see it like you but c'est la vie.
I just love the emotive language used!!



Yet when the two Leigh lads were up before the disciplinary t'other week I can't remember reading too many "CHEAP SHOT" comments!!





It's a physical game. Some players (mainly prop forrads - it's in the job spec) like to 'enforce' their dominance. Sometimes it's our players that do it, sometimes it's the opposition! It's not netball - it happens. On friday we just got the upper hand. Like I said earlier, another day we won't.
But the failure to acknowledge that Leigh players would ever involve themselves in such dreadful shenanagins makes me smile!

They have, they do and they will!!!



Love n peace man!

Please never remind me again of Leigh's last NRC match at Fev. It was in the group stages on a February night in 2009. Hobson was the man who was meant to have taken out the Fev player. I do not think it was the main factor in our defeat. We also had a man sin binned and had to contend with the small matter of a 21 4 penalty count against us. Incidentally a Fev player wiped out Nicky Stanton in the first half right in front of me and he left the field never to return. I think we may have got a penalty. It was one of the most inept and biased refereeing performances I have ever had the displeasure of watching. Who was the great man in charge? The one and only Jimmy Child. What is even more sad perhaps, is that Mr. Cummins was in the stand that night and we all know how Mr. Child has never looked back. Yet another event that highlights what a cheap joke our game often is. What I do distinctly remember though and I have respected him for it ever since, was RFF coming on this board to say as much. Credit where it is due.