It's a free world , everybody has the right to make a choice , in fact I prefer the honesty in the O/P rather than some of the usual garbage people post as reasons for not attending

We had an interesting discussion about what makes a fan (and/or a supporter) t'other night.

Can you be a 'fan' without attending games? If so, just how 'fanatic' are you??

Can you be a 'supporter' without attending games? If so, how do you 'support' the team/club??

At what point do you stop being a fan/supporter and become an ex-fan/supporter (or simply a well-wisher?!)

I think I'm heading into that last category FL. When I first moved to this side of the country, I made every effort to get to LSV, and as many away games as I could as they tend to be nearer. This season I keep making excuses, although all are valid, but keep an eager eye out on a sunday on here.
I wonder if that will be as important to me next season?

We'll see.

i was amazed how many "lapsed" fans were at the international last saturday, i saw loads................obvious they still follow the game, but not the club, sadly.

No it isn't - it is a fair comment. The O/P appears to be disappointed with the way the sport is being run, which is fair comment. However, is this a good enough reason for not supporting his own club? He talks about 'the good old days' and how it's not right that clubs that at one time would have been considered the equals of Leigh are now calling the shots. Again fair comment, but does he not see that the stay away fans over the last twenty years or so are what ultimately led to the club's financial implosion in the early nineties. Can you imagine what could have been acheived at this club over the last ten years had we had the 4-5k average crowds that we were still getting up to the late eighties?? The stay-aways, whatever their reasons for doing so, are inextricably linked to the downfall of our club, and their insistance on staying away has helped to hamstring progress since.

A fan remains a fan for life.......until the day there is no club to be fanatical about!! And when that day comes, who is ultimately to blame? Those who stayed, and tried to help - or those who stood by and did nothing?

+ 100 Top Leyther Points to you sir.

Have you brought in a system of 'top leyther points'. If not, I think you should! Get a league going and everything.

If you come top for three seasons running, you get promoted to being a St Helens fan

i would advise to stop living in the past and live in the present!
i would presume your not the only fan who has the same reasons as yourself for not going, why not bring the people who you used to go with. that we bump up our crowd and were all happy.

PMSL!!

In fact - nearly spat my brew all over my lap-top!!

I wouldn't support Saints if they were playing in my back yard lol. God forbid Leigh ever disappears then I'm done and SL is killing the game outside it's own league anyway.

When will the idiots attempting to run the game realise this fact and amend their ways?

Agreed.

The phrase I would use is "if Saints were playing in my back garden, I would draw the curtains!"

You are (the late) Bill Shankley, and I claim my fiver!!

Saints are my second team, always have been, I like the way they play the game.

Warrington are my second team, I was born there.

Second team. What a load of rubbish.

Although Matt has about 3 "second teams"

me and matt.............cru cru crusaders haha!

I've a second, third and fourth team..... Crusaders, Saints, and Les Cats in that order. I can justify them though - raised in Wrexham, Saints have as much love for the pies as we do, and my surname has French origins. Feeble, but allowed?
Just felt the need to share.

Thanks for sharing that with us Nik is being raised in Wrexham the reason for your relocation to the East coast ?

I suppose your support for franchising is down to your anti laissay faire which suggests a surprising contrariness probably due to your Gallic charm which shines through most of your posts.

i would not be surprised if your favourite footie team is Bolton Wanderers.

May I also congratulate you on your forthcoming nuptials.

Dead right!



*awaits accusations from Halifax fans*

Football? Credit me with some taste!

And thanks.

Three bellies, maybe, but at least I can quote properly

If you can not be bothered to support your club because of something they have no control over then you are an extremely poor fan & quite frankly on the club certainly does not need. Good riddance.