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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"Grubber kicks are a reasonable tactic but many were poor at it got to the stage they were even being blocked and going nowhere. There is a lack of thought to them. You saw how profitable kicks in Mathers direction were yet you never bombed him. You should have. Likwise when Pryce came on he was a perfect target oddly for bombs (he has had a nightmare with them v Hudds and Wire) and grubbers.
Ultimately though you desparately need a left sided playmaker.
I am only guessing but Ridyard I think prefers the right side BUT has to try to play left because Watson is so right sided.'" I think when Marsh is on the field he will attack mainly down the left.
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| Riddy won't turn pro he likes it at East too much.
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| What worried me was this predominance to go right repeatedly replicates how Leigh went through their moves in training. I was asked to confirm the opinion of somebody who watched them training in the week beforehand and I was staggered by how it came to reality.
You can see why old heads like Harris and Webster do so well at this level.
Defensively, I felt your compressed defence was very good and great v Wigan. I felt you compressed too much on your line when you have to spread more and it was that compression that led to the first try. Had you played Warrington who really push the ball wide it would have created more problems.
Armistead seems likes he's a genuine player and the way I look at it, if he could offload in tackles so much v Wigan he should be awesome v NL opposition. Taylor looked very good too. That bit better than the rest IMO.
I would snatch Wigan's hands off and get long season loans for Liam Farrel (left sided second rower) and Lee Mossop (I would play Mossop as a prop and maybe Taylor too). A real punt would be Joe Mellor, a young left side halfback. Resembles Sam Tomkins in a many aspects of his play. Has a kicking game too. Mellor paired with a right sided playmaker would give you the full field to play with. See how Ridyard goes when given the right side to playmake. I see Leigh as a rugby playing team rather than crash,bang wallop outfit that say Widnes and Fax will be.
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| Enjoyed the game on the whole and thought we did some good things despite not being able to breach the try line.
Was very impressed with Durbin when he came on I can see him becoming a regular (if we keep him). Watson and Ridyard looked like strangers to be honest.
I thought Armistead distributed the ball well but didn't think he made much impact in the tackle although very few did. Stanton looks like he'll be more than useful if we can get him in the clear, very quick.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"What worried me was this predominance to go right repeatedly replicates how Leigh went through their moves in training. I was asked to confirm the opinion of somebody who watched them training in the week beforehand and I was staggered by how it came to reality.
You can see why old heads like Harris and Webster do so well at this level.
Defensively, I felt your compressed defence was very good and great v Wigan. I felt you compressed too much on your line when you have to spread more and it was that compression that led to the first try. Had you played Warrington who really push the ball wide it would have created more problems.
Armistead seems likes he's a genuine player and the way I look at it, if he could offload in tackles so much v Wigan he should be awesome v NL opposition. Taylor looked very good too. That bit better than the rest IMO.
I would snatch Wigan's hands off and get long season loans for Liam Farrel (left sided second rower) and Lee Mossop (I would play Mossop as a prop and maybe Taylor too). A real punt would be Joe Mellor, a young left side halfback. Resembles Sam Tomkins in a many aspects of his play. Has a kicking game too. Mellor paired with a right sided playmaker would give you the full field to play with. See how Ridyard goes when given the right side to playmake. I see Leigh as a rugby playing team rather than crash,bang wallop outfit that say Widnes and Fax will be.'"
Fax a crash bang wallop team? You must not have seen us play last year. We are one of, if not the best footballing teams in the division. Dont think that will change this year either.
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| now youve done it charlie
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| Quote ="wbk666"now youve done it charlie
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I only saw the Fax games that were televised and you just seemed ugly to me with everything going through the Aussie lad (Black). Kicks seemed a pre occupation too.
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"icon_lol.gif Oh dear
I only saw the Fax games that were televised and you just seemed ugly to me with everything going through the Aussie lad (Black). Kicks seemed a pre occupation too.'"
Ask Fred for a DVD of the game against 'Fax at Hilton Park last season and I'm sure your opinion will change.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Ask Fred for a DVD of the game against 'Fax at Hilton Park last season and I'm sure your opinion will change.'"
Did they play good expansive rugby Matt?
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"Did they play good expansive rugby Matt?'"
Without a doubt. We had Chris Hill sent off and they didn't half take advantage with their support play and keeping the ball alive wherever possible.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Without a doubt. We had Chris Hill sent off and they didn't half take advantage with their support play and keeping the ball alive wherever possible.'"
It did take them a while to use their 1 man advantage..... We`d have been out of sight with C Hill still on.
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| So are we all agreed?
Widnes play ugly RL
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| Pre match was a huge missed opportunity to impress, LSV arrived in a wimper.
Match did become boring before half time (it did feel like the friendly it was), fortunatly a minor bit of biff (high shot) livened it up and the 2nd half was better.
We only looked like scoring once or twice and at times gave away position cheaply but never looked likely to get really overun (I feel the scoreline flattered- or was it Wigan know how to make teams pay for sloppy pay / mistakes).
Kicking game was poor (A priority for Kelly) and we did a few moves that no-one seemed to know about.
However we kept going and didn't cave in and will play worse teams than Wigan all season.
We still havn't shown a playmaker so far IMO and one wonders if we have a Plan B if we get major injurys (and lets face it we usually do).
Having said all that it'll be the biggest gate at the LSV for a long time and the staff coped well (just apity the club didn't try to sell this fixture more, it would have been nice to see the ground full) and it was near enjoyable day out (never enjoyable to lose to Wigan ).
Whats with the scaffolding in the West stand on the half way point and the cheap scaffolding boards under the terrace in the North stand where you enter the terrace
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| Quote ="Charlie Seeling"So are we all agreed?
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Completely!!
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| I was told by the stewards that the safety barriers have been made too low all over the place. even at the front of the boxes and the boards in the tunnels are for the football games as you are not allowed to see the pitch with a pint in your hand. FA rules.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"I was told by the stewards that the safety barriers have been made too low all over the place. even at the front of the boxes and the boards in the tunnels are for the football games as you are not allowed to see the pitch with a pint in your hand. FA rules.'"
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| ya wanna see em on the tv gantry they are so low they are dangerous
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| Quote ="FredParky"ya wanna see em on the tv gantry they are so low they are dangerous'"
Sorry for the daft question, but surely there are regulation heights for these barriers?
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| I would think so, I can see why they are lower on a TV gantry but they should be regulation height with removable pieces at camera positions, IMO they appear to be dangerously low.
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| Quote ="FredParky"I would think so, I can see why they are lower on a TV gantry but they should be regulation height with removable pieces at camera positions, IMO they appear to be dangerously low.'"
Do Leigh still have a stadium safety manager or did he move over to the LSV?
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| Dont quote me but i think its 3ft 6" or 4ft on scaffold towers. But is probably a bit higher in public places like the LSV. What is funny is the barriers can 11ft but the way they are made they are like climbing frames. And some stupid monkeys would try to get over them whatever height they are
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| Bit of a strange one that the job was 'split' at the LSV and two people have the job Dave Wolstenhulme who did both at HP is the person responsible for safety re people the stadium 'operational director' does the safety building safety 'bit' they must know about the problem as they have temporarily rectified it in the West stand and the electrics on the gantry and press box are all condemned so one would assume they saw the gantry 'railings', maybe im wrong and they dont count there but id be surprised if that was the case.
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| Quote ="FredParky"ya wanna see em on the tv gantry they are so low they are dangerous'"
You want to be on the 1st row of the top tier at Wembley....... now those barriers are seriously low with a 50ft drop.........
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| Quote ="POPMAN"Do Leigh still have a stadium safety manager or did he move over to the LSV?'"
These are just one of the many problems the stadium co have inherieted from the stadium build contractors
These issues are the problem it has taken so long for the stadium to become operational
A 3 way ' discussion ' between Halls,Greenbank and the LSV co
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| i personally think that ridyard is as good as he's ever gonna be!
In my opinion Leigh signed the wrong half back from miners
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