No thought now

just comment on what Ive said then

Thought it was quite a simple point. It is still to be proven whether transatlantic sport on a full time basis is viable or not. And if it was already proven to be viable, then MLS or NFL teams would've done it by now. Maybe TWP will lead the way, maybe they wont.

The Premier League & EFL simply don't need it. They have the European competitions, they have a sickening amount of money & they have a number of huge clubs already.

The NFL are playing games at Wembley for a reason, and I don't think we're too far off having a UK-based NFL franchise.

Will that include London Monarchs?

Canada RL was set up to redevelop the existing clubs and I presume thats where the current national team resides.

TWP are a completley different scenario and Perez has walked away from what we would call grass roots,in order to do what?

Why wasn't TWP placed under CRL? Why should they be a seperate entity to what Perez set out to do?

Will [iwhat[/i include London Monarchs?

The CRL haven't really redeveloped any clubs, all the current existing clubs were founded under their tenure as Canadian RL had died a death a decade before.

TWP are playing in an RFL-governed competition, and have to follow RFL rules & regs to be apart of it, so that's why. If they were playing in a domestic Canadian competition like the other clubs over there, then they'd fall under the CRL. I'm not sure what your point is Atomic?

The point is (which you beg to differ) TWP have no conncetion to CRL. Do they!

Your question doesn't make sense in relation to what I said.

I assume it was a facetious remark about how they tried an NFL team here 25 years ago and it didn't work? But that's not really the same thing as a UK-based NFL franchise being part of the existing structure based in the USA. The Monarchs played in that weird European league that just didn't take off.

Anyway, they're holding NFL sell-out games at Wembley to test the market, and it appears demand is there, so I don't think we're too far off. The difference this time is UK-based NFL fans will be able to watch the best players from the Patriots etc, rather than a bunch of no-marks from the Scottish Claymores etc.

I've never claimed that the TWP are governed by the CRL, they're not.

However, is there a connection and working relationship between the Wolfpack & the CRL? Then yes, of course there is, this was clearly seen at the weekend if you needed any evidence.

Come on! I'm not knocking it,but it's simply a promotion stunt,nothing more. TWP will always come before CRL.

I still don't get what point you're making, or what you're taking issue with? How is the CRL a promotion stunt? This is so odd.

You don't see many points do you? Possibly it was a TWP promotion stunt!

It's hard to pick out any points & discuss them when you make them so badly to be honest.

So TWP are a promotion stunt now? What are you talking about?

You base a connection of TWP with CRL on a double header at Lamport. When really it's only a promotion of TWP. A venture that doesn't support CRL.

Quote ="atomic"You base a connection of TWP with CRL on a double header at Lamport. When really it's only a promotion of TWP. A venture that doesn't support CRL.'" That bit in bold is your opinion, it's not fact. It IS a fact that they played a double header at the weekend, and therefore is evidence that the organisations work together, a "connection" if you will. What is also a fact is a tweet from the Wolfpack on the 21st of August, which reads, "We work hand in hand with @CanadaRL, and hope to be able create and foster a TWP youth academy system over the next couple of years. Cheers!" https://twitter.com/TOwolfpack/status/8 ... 7557584901 What more do you need?

Quote ="atomic"You base a connection of TWP with CRL on a double header at Lamport. When really it's only a promotion of TWP. A venture that doesn't support CRL.'" That bit in bold is your opinion, it's not fact. It IS a fact that they played a double header at the weekend, and therefore is evidence that the organisations work together, a "connection" if you will. What is also a fact is a tweet from the Wolfpack on the 21st of August, which reads, "We work hand in hand with @CanadaRL, and hope to be able create and foster a TWP youth academy system over the next couple of years. Cheers!" https://twitter.com/TOwolfpack/status/8 ... 7557584901 What more do you need?

Quote ="DGM"That bit in bold is your opinion, it's not fact. It IS a fact that they played a double header at the weekend, and therefore is evidence that the organisations work together, a "connection" if you will. What is also a fact is a tweet from the Wolfpack on the 21st of August, which reads, "We work hand in hand with @CanadaRL, and hope to be able create and foster a TWP youth academy system over the next couple of years. Cheers!" https://twitter.com/TOwolfpack/status/8 ... 7557584901 What more do you need?'" www.canadarugbyleague.com/ Packed full of information regarding TWP.. I cant find one article regarding TWP. Nor the name.

Quote ="DGM"That bit in bold is your opinion, it's not fact. It IS a fact that they played a double header at the weekend, and therefore is evidence that the organisations work together, a "connection" if you will. What is also a fact is a tweet from the Wolfpack on the 21st of August, which reads, "We work hand in hand with @CanadaRL, and hope to be able create and foster a TWP youth academy system over the next couple of years. Cheers!" https://twitter.com/TOwolfpack/status/8 ... 7557584901 What more do you need?'" www.canadarugbyleague.com/ Packed full of information regarding TWP.. I cant find one article regarding TWP. Nor the name.

Seen as TWP don't fall under the jurisdiction of CRL (we've been over this), why would you? They share news on the national sides and the domestic competitions, that's what their website is for (albeit, it's a pretty poorly updated one).

I'm not sure why this is all so confusing to you, or quite why you've decided to deviate down this road for so long without actually making a point as to why you're doing so. All very odd. Maybe you're just trying to find some sort of tiny victory in your fight against TWP, I don't know.

Given they are working hand in hand,you would at the very least expect to see to something concerning the TWP on the CRL site. After all they are the future.

Quote ="atomic"Given they are working hand in hand,you would at the very least expect to see to something concerning the TWP on the CRL site. After all they are the future.'" Just a poorly updated website I imagine. Anyway, I'm surprised you didn't find this in your Google searches earlier: Q&A earlier this year with Paul O'Keefe, President of the CRL: https://rugbyleagueopinions.com/canada- ... ul-okeefe/ "In regards to professional clubs, we obviously are working with Toronto Wolfpack here in Canada." So, that's both the Wolfpack & the CRL saying they work with one another. Cheers.

Quote ="atomic"Given they are working hand in hand,you would at the very least expect to see to something concerning the TWP on the CRL site. After all they are the future.'" Just a poorly updated website I imagine. Anyway, I'm surprised you didn't find this in your Google searches earlier: Q&A earlier this year with Paul O'Keefe, President of the CRL: https://rugbyleagueopinions.com/canada- ... ul-okeefe/ "In regards to professional clubs, we obviously are working with Toronto Wolfpack here in Canada." So, that's both the Wolfpack & the CRL saying they work with one another. Cheers.

Everything else seems to point too Rugby League World Cup 2025.Unless I'm missing your point.

By the same token, Derek Beaumont has walked away from the grass roots, being fielding an academy team or teams - in order to do what? Exactly the same as Perez, put a winning team on the park and not have to wait decades for things to happen organically in order to get to Super League.

And UK RL can hardly talk about structure when the RFL and BARLA have the 'relationship' they have. And Leigh's relationship with local clubs has been 'patchy' to say the least.

I can understand you willing TWP to fail though - you're scared witless about what it could mean for your club.

I have never said once,I want Toronto to fail. I'm more concerned on how they will survive. Championship is now fact. I'm not a hater as Perez puts it,but to be honest how the hell would SL create fixtures to meet it?

Lets get some reality here please. We here in Leigh do the talking on the pitch.

You seem to getting less Points than any English Eurovision Song Contest entrant, I can ever remember!
I've read back through this thread and I'm wondering why, I even posted on it?
When Leigh Started playing Rugby league in 1895 Canada/Toronto were still trying to recruit 'Loggers' and Mounties!
Its taken you all this time to attempt to join us and, you've had to enlist eleven or more former Leigh players and their Mentor's! You then have the audacity to come on here and tell us we will soon be overtaken by Canadians!