it is noboddys fault,
1st if we had a u18s we would be allowed to run a full a scholarship






2nd the money you have to put into a scholarship is unbeleivable, plus the LISA money used to fund this,



which now goes to the club towards players,
3rd the rfl have told championship clubs they can only have 10players at each age group at scholarship to save money for both club & rfl,
SO DOWN TO IT ALL ITS ABOUT MONEY FOR BOTH CLUB & RFL

alright,fault was the wrong word to use.
what it boils down to is,we cant afford to run a u18s and a scholership,so the rfl have said..because you cant afford to run a u18s we are not going to allow you to run a scholarship 'is that it'

Been told by someone who was once something to do with the 18s that Leigh are not allowed to run an 18s due to something that happened .

i thought we were getting to the bottom of this conundrum and then you go and throw this in..mi eds stating to bang again now

It was something to do with money

we are allowed to run a u18s if we could afford one,
but like i said money is an issue, LISA money used to fund the scholarship, that now goes
towards players like Robbie Paul & other players, there are certain rules to running a scholarship, to many to quote on here, but here are a few,
1, each scholar has to be kitted out with full training gear, (roughly 60pounds per player )
2, each training session has to be at a decent training facility approved by the rfl & paid for by the club, you can't just go onto some field & train/coach.
3, you have to have 1 qaulified coach per 5players, each coach does it for nothing/don't get paid, i have been coaching at Leigh Centurions for 6years now. & so on & so on.

Thanks for all the info lobby & pies, at least i understand it a bit more now.

Well if you look a few posts before i told you that as well

what you wrote was...if my info is correct,im sorry demon but that could mean anything.

No thats my way of protecting myself....and yes i do believe it is to do with misdemeanours from a few years ago ie not recent. They don't half hold a grudge that RFL lol. Have also posted same several times in the past. Not my fault if people chose not to listen/read.

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Thats what i was told ,misdemeanours and that we couldn't run an 18s again

WE CAN & ARE ALOOWED TO RUN A U18s




the club choose's not to.

Really? We are talking about the this season and last

YES we are & have been allowed to run a u18s, we have never been stopped from running a u18s whilst ive been coachingat the club, the club just choose not to

Interesting maybe a word from a director to confirm or deny this would be good. Especially considering where I got my information.

My information only last year was that we had been refused permission to run an 18's, I will clarify and report back.

If my memory serves me correctly we actually had an u18's coach in position in 2006/07 in Carl Briscoe but had to 'let him go' because the RFL refused us permission to have an u18's.

I for one would not be impressed if the truth of the matter is that Leigh actually cannot afford to run either an u-18's or scholarship program (albeit because of the reasonable sounding rules out in place by the RFL) when it has been portrayed by senior people at the club that we "weren't allowed". I would like a definitive club statement on the issue.

I just e-mailed BBC forum regarding this and this is what my e-mail said:



Only the first paragraph was read out and put to the RFL. John Ledger from the RFL replied with the response



Lies, pure lies live on TV

You won't get one until its all sorted which my information is that is far from the case.

As for the e mail Its obviously John Ledger has not spoken to Barry John Mather or Dave Rotherham.

Well maybe the RFL should be a little more organised and make sure their media manager looks at the WHOLE of rugby league and not just the 'super' league

It was interesting to hear what Johnathan Davies had to say about the matter ,basically ,as i understood it he was talking along the lines of using the champ clubs as feeders were as John Kear thought it best to concentrate on making champ clubs full time by giving more money to us.

that'll never catch on

Do you know what i think ,well as Widnes are entering the "elite" in 2012 so therefore can get a decent side for next season ,unless they wait for end of 2011 that is well either way i reckon they should not be able to enter NRC or play in the play offs ,in fact i reckon they should not receive any points at all next season as it won't matter if the finish bottom ,so thats what i think any road

My understanding is that this has nothing to do with our previous Academy problems

Talking to someone involved with Widnes Scholarship over the weekend and it seems that the RFL has two player pathways.

The first involve having a continual pathway through Scholarship 15 & 16, Academy Under 18, Under 20/Reserves and First team.

The second was that players not involved at scholarship would have a pathway through service area and regional progammes funded through the RFL

A meeting was held at the LSV some months ago and clubs had individual meeting to discuss which pathway they choose to follow. My informatant said at the involving Millward, Rowley and Eccleston the club choose to follow the second option.

Widnes already having an academy side choose to stay with option one, he also said that he understood Featherstone and Sheffield had chosen the academy route but was not 100% sure of this,

This seems to support what the Chairman has said and seems to be another case of lies coming out of the LSV and their contunual blaming of the RFL