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| I don't know why no-one ever mentions the Liberals.
The whole discussion focuses on the BNP and the history of the Labour and Conservative parties.
The Liberals with Vince Cable were the only ones to predict the banking crisis and have sensible, if painfu,l solutions to it.
They have a developing, young leader in Nick Clegg. It will be interesting to see how he fares against Brown and Cameron in the live TV debates.
Before you ask, I am not a member of the Liberal party, though I have voted for them sometimes.
Surely worth considering, in view of the dire nature of Brown and Cameron.
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"Maurice I agree we need a common sense Government and thats why more people are turning to the BNP........ I have more faith in them that any of the other parties..........
Common sense allways prevails in my eyes.......
We are being colonilized........ Have you ever been to Bolton our Blackburn, or Bradford???? Its not England anymore, they're the third world, with third world cultures, third world religions, third world language.............'"
Third world education!
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| Quote ="rugbyballs"I don't know why no-one ever mentions the Liberals.
The whole discussion focuses on the BNP and the history of the Labour and Conservative parties.
The Liberals with Vince Cable were the only ones to predict the banking crisis and have sensible, if painfu,l solutions to it.
They have a developing, young leader in Nick Clegg. It will be interesting to see how he fares against Brown and Cameron in the live TV debates.
Before you ask, I am not a member of the Liberal party, though I have voted for them sometimes.
Surely worth considering, in view of the dire nature of Brown and Cameron.'"
Actually Vince Cable wasn't the only one. Eighteen months ago I closed my accounts with the Royal Bank of Scotland and moved to the Coop.I also moved all my ISA money to Building Societies which had not gone public.
I'm no genious or economic commentator but lending money by British Banks to American banks who were giving people mortgages when the Banks knew the mortgagee could not hope to make the repayments was very silly and if I could see that it makes me concerned that the Govenor of the Bank of England couldn't.
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| I think you need to get your black car, drive through Bolton, Bradford and Blackburn then you'll see what I'm talking about...... I'll try and find you some figures, although they'll be distorted becuase theres alot of illegals here
Story was covered up by the police, all race related crimes are unless its white on black......
You drove it through the third world of England yet, or are you still pretending these places are white with manufacturing industry, with coal fires in the houses, with jolly English pubs and markets
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| Fook me are things that bad now that people are thinking of voting for a islamic terrorist???? and a tory to boot not to mention welsh !
Someone wined on about our goverment killing 250,000 of them....well good I say
Were at war and you lot want to play hug a muslim
She dons a leigh east beanie and everythings ok,hitler missed a trick there he could have marched into leigh with a rugby shirt and a pon of lobby carried shoulder high
Think thats everyone upset now
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| Even the spelling police. It's "Pon" not "Pom".
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Even the spelling police. It's "Pon" not "Pom".'"
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| Quote ="frankb"Actually Vince Cable wasn't the only one. Eighteen months ago I closed my accounts with the Royal Bank of Scotland and moved to the Coop.I also moved all my ISA money to Building Societies which had not gone public.
I'm no genious or economic commentator but lending money by British Banks to American banks who were giving people mortgages when the Banks knew the mortgagee could not hope to make the repayments was very silly and if I could see that it makes me concerned that the Govenor of the Bank of England couldn't.'"
Ok fair enough ,- I'll vote for you Frank. (except at Bridge).
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| Quote ="rugbyballs"Ok fair enough ,- I'll vote for you Frank. (except at Bridge).'"
I'm better than folk think especially my rubbish partners.
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| Firstly I'm from Golborne and born in the 70's, What i don't understand about this area is why are Labour so popular?
What have Labour done for this area and the surrounding areas ?
Now I'm not saying vote Tory but seriously, people vote overwhelmingly for Labour every year and they do sack all and do you ever ask yourself why ? Probably because they know no matter what they do, people will still vote for them.
Golborne and Leigh are dumps plus surrounding areas like plank lane, platt bridge, abram yet people will still vote labour.
My last point on the working classes which i really can't get my head around is.
For years they are loyal Labour supporters (left wing party) and they get disillusioned so turn to the BNP which are as Far right as you can get ?? Do these people even read manifestos ?
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| I don't think you do read manifestos, becuase for a start the BNP aren't far right.......... the Labour aren't left wing, they're far left.....
Read the Labour manifesto then tell me that they're implementing there promises correctly... THEY'RE NOT
They'd rather give aid across the world whilst pensioners and starving to death/ freezing each year....... Think you should read the BNP and Labour manifestos then tell me which one is extreme?
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| You getting more and more laughable with each passing comment. I have no desire to mock the afflicted anymore, so I will leave this be and pity you.
I suggest you go out into the wide world, read more and get some education. Then you may see that in sporting parlance you have "had a mare" on this thread.
Personally only allowing whites to join the party and supporting repatriation of anyone not "british" is pretty much far right, but if you don't think so, please continue to wallow in your ignorance.
And can I say, I do hope that if the BNP get into power (which is unlikely) I hope you are 100% British and have no Irish in you for instance, or you will be up against the wall with the fuzzy wuzzys you clearly despise.
People like you sicken me to the pit of my stomach and it pains me that I have to breath the same air as cretins like you
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| Quote ="leigh_casual"You getting more and more laughable with each passing comment. I have no desire to mock the afflicted anymore, so I will leave this be and pity you.
I suggest you go out into the wide world, read more and get some education. Then you may see that in sporting parlance you have "had a mare" on this thread.
Personally only allowing whites to join the party and supporting repatriation of anyone not "british" is pretty much far right, but if you don't think so, please continue to wallow in your ignorance.
And can I say, I do hope that if the BNP get into power (which is unlikely) I hope you are 100% British and have no Irish in you for instance, or you will be up against the wall with the fuzzy wuzzys you clearly despise.
People like you sicken me to the pit of my stomach and it pains me that I have to breath the same air as cretins like you'"
Well said
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| I think he's upset LC
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| LOL it was Labour party policy in the 1980's for volentry repatriation...... are Labour far right? Its not far right to detest immigration and offer repatriation.......... weirdo
I think its you who needs to an education, you need to stop reading papers like the "Sun" who have repeated put lies in there papers about the BNP and general politics, and start getting into the real world.......
I have to say the same about you I'm afraid, you sicken me, because maybe not in your lifetime there will be a civil war in this country the way things are going, the British (including the blacks irish and whoever) vs Islam..........
If you support illegal wars for oil which our boys get killed, vote for LAB/CON, if you don't believe in war and don't want an Islamic Civil War the vote BNP
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| My best friend is black he's 34 and lived here since he was 2. He was born in dominica. I've spoke to him before on this subject and he seems to think he's English and i agree. I did offer to blacken up though and assume his identity, wouldn't mind retiring in the Sun.
Don't kid yourself that the BNP are only concerned with islam, they are just top priority. If the BNP came to power our economy would be worth jack, everyone would wash their hands of GB
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"LOL it was Labour party policy in the 1980's for volentry repatriation...... are Labour far right? Its not far right to detest immigration and offer repatriation.......... weirdo
I think its you who needs to an education, you need to stop reading papers like the "Sun" who have repeated put lies in there papers about the BNP and general politics, and start getting into the real world.......
I have to say the same about you I'm afraid, you sicken me, because maybe not in your lifetime there will be a civil war in this country the way things are going, the British (including the blacks irish and whoever) vs Islam..........
If you support illegal wars for oil which our boys get killed, vote for LAB/CON, if you don't believe in war and don't want an Islamic Civil War the vote BNP'"
Can you provide evidence that the Iraq war was illegal ? or is it your opinion, so means nowt.
Just to clarify, can people be British and follow the Islam religion ? I'm unsure now after reading this.
Also can you please answer yes or no that you have no problem with Griffin being in a meeting of like minded people including the leader of the Ku Kluxx Kan?
Also do you not feel cheated that Griffins vision was to provide slogans to avoid questions about their past ?
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| Welll there you go Mucky, you have narrowed the field. It is now you, the British, the blacks, the Irish and whoever against the Muslims. Why didn't you cut the the chase in your first post instead of rambling.
You are Islamophobic. What a sad little man you are.
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| Quote ="Mookachaka"
I think its you who needs to an education, you need to stop reading papers like the "Sun" who have repeated put lies in there papers about the BNP and general politics, and start getting into the real world.......
'" I said I was leaving it, and I will after this, but the bits in bold are utterly priceless.
I don't need to say any more, as every time you type, you dig yourself in deeper.
I will leave you to wallow in your misguided, bigoted ignorance and I will live with the pleasure that I will never have to meet you and your odious "personality."
Oh and I leave reading The Sun to ill-informed clowns like yourself.
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Do you read the news........ they're having a war inquiry as we speak, you need to get up to date
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8485694.stm
I'm sure Blair will get sent to prison for war crime.... Wire Yed, the economys worth nothing now, no gold, no manufacturing industry no nothing......
They can but traditionally this is a Christian country, I think we should keep with our traditions....
He was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting to try and persuade white supremisists to tuen to nationalism politically, and not violence..... sounds sensible to me
Past, the past is obvious....... There are alot of Nazis in the National front, but some where true Nationalists which formed the BNP, there might still be a few Nazi supporters, but overall the BNP is legitimate....... Are you trying to tell that theres no racists and nazis in the Labour party???
Jack Straws dad got locked up in the war becuase he was a Nazi who supported Hitler....... Good father figure ey, passing his ideologies onto his son.....
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Do you read the news........ they're having a war inquiry as we speak, you need to get up to date
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8485694.stm
I'm sure Blair will get sent to prison for war crime.... Wire Yed, the economys worth nothing now, no gold, no manufacturing industry no nothing......
They can but traditionally this is a Christian country, I think we should keep with our traditions....
He was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting to try and persuade white supremisists to tuen to nationalism politically, and not violence..... sounds sensible to me
Past, the past is obvious....... There are alot of Nazis in the National front, but some where true Nationalists which formed the BNP, there might still be a few Nazi supporters, but overall the BNP is legitimate....... Are you trying to tell that theres no racists and nazis in the Labour party???
Jack Straws dad got locked up in the war becuase he was a Nazi who supported Hitler....... Good father figure ey, passing his ideologies onto his son.....
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| Your right I am Islamophobic, as I totally disagree with dressing women like black letter boxes (burka), I dont like jahid (death against non believers of their religion), I dont like Halal meat which is an awful way to kill an animal...... it goes against everything I believe in, so yes I am
I dont read the Sun lol..... Because it lies, especially about the BNP........... Your the one whos ignorant who can't admit that the Sun lies about everything, your the one who can't admit where being take over by the third world, your the one who supports illegal wars..... so ask yourself the question, who is ignorant???????
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| Your right I am Islamophobic, as I totally disagree with dressing women like black letter boxes (burka), I dont like jahid (death against non believers of their religion), I dont like Halal meat which is an awful way to kill an animal...... it goes against everything I believe in, so yes I am
I dont read the Sun lol..... Because it lies, especially about the BNP........... Your the one whos ignorant who can't admit that the Sun lies about everything, your the one who can't admit where being take over by the third world, your the one who supports illegal wars..... so ask yourself the question, who is ignorant???????
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| There will never ever be a war in this country against Islam. There are too many good Islamists that are appaulled with the way their religion is dragged through the gutter by so few. There will be a civil war but it be the whole country against the idiots and the war mongers that run it.
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Its yet another inquiry.....Looks like it was your opinion then.
Quote They can but traditionally this is a Christian country, I think we should keep with our traditions....'"
What are you on? In a free country we live in we should all be the same and have the same religious beliefs? Suppose the quran speaks out to you, are you saying "nope we are British and christians"?
Quote He was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting to try and persuade white supremisists to tuen to nationalism politically, and not violence..... sounds sensible to me'"
So he was trying to pursuade like minded people like Ku Kluxx Kan to stop murdering people because of colour of their skin and seek a political way of getting rid of them ? mmmmmm....would have been better to tell them not to kill and not to be racist, now that would be sensible to me. These popularists slogans seems like con tricks to me.
Quote Past, the past is obvious....... There are alot of Nazis in the National front, but some where true Nationalists which formed the BNP, there might still be a few Nazi supporters, but overall the BNP is legitimate....... Are you trying to tell that theres no racists and nazis in the Labour party???
Jack Straws dad got locked up in the war becuase he was a Nazi who supported Hitler....... Good father figure ey, passing his ideologies onto his son.....'"
Grasping at straws (literally) again there. Labour have their weaknesses but Jack Straw is an intelligent person who is highly respected politician. In a proper debate between Griffin and Straw there would only be one winner. In fact Boris Johnson would rip Griffin to bits too. There is also a difference between a war objector, and a supporter of Nazi's.
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Its yet another inquiry.....Looks like it was your opinion then.
Quote They can but traditionally this is a Christian country, I think we should keep with our traditions....'"
What are you on? In a free country we live in we should all be the same and have the same religious beliefs? Suppose the quran speaks out to you, are you saying "nope we are British and christians"?
Quote He was in the Ku Klux Klan meeting to try and persuade white supremisists to tuen to nationalism politically, and not violence..... sounds sensible to me'"
So he was trying to pursuade like minded people like Ku Kluxx Kan to stop murdering people because of colour of their skin and seek a political way of getting rid of them ? mmmmmm....would have been better to tell them not to kill and not to be racist, now that would be sensible to me. These popularists slogans seems like con tricks to me.
Quote Past, the past is obvious....... There are alot of Nazis in the National front, but some where true Nationalists which formed the BNP, there might still be a few Nazi supporters, but overall the BNP is legitimate....... Are you trying to tell that theres no racists and nazis in the Labour party???
Jack Straws dad got locked up in the war becuase he was a Nazi who supported Hitler....... Good father figure ey, passing his ideologies onto his son.....'"
Grasping at straws (literally) again there. Labour have their weaknesses but Jack Straw is an intelligent person who is highly respected politician. In a proper debate between Griffin and Straw there would only be one winner. In fact Boris Johnson would rip Griffin to bits too. There is also a difference between a war objector, and a supporter of Nazi's.
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