amatuer club and convince their juniors to sign up

It's double standards all the time

I don't use them "selective examples" to use as backbone to what I think is right, or wrong. I use this example because as this has done to yourself, it makes me shake my head in disbelief (a bit of exagerated drama) when many on here do exactly the same thing (Cas v Wakey), with added sugar coating of how it works in football.




But RL is not a regional sport like it used to be. Its played up and down the country, and Sky viewing figures show there is interest. We all got introduced to the game one way or other. The future generations outside the heartlands of RL enthusiasts will thank us for it 20 years down the line - how many that will be who knows.


Widnes, and Halifax show more potential than us. We are no where near ready - not even for next franchises. Also don't agree we are better equipped than current SL clubs tbh apart from the stadium that is.


Every team should have possibility to achieve their potential. Its still there but we are a club of bellyachers at the moment. Everything seems to be we will sort things if given a chance of SL, instead of proving we are potential SL club now and making decisions as difficult as possible for the dynamic due in charge. We can't beat clubs like Celtic because whether people like it or not they are the future and add more to the comp because of location. We add just another team within 10 miles of the other 4 clubs clustered around us - so need to work extra hard.


We should get more money from Sky. But again its all about being given a chance to show Sky we deserve more. The games have been VGood - Bottom v Top last week proved that.

As you say we will never agree until the rule changes make the effect either way.

Burnleys thug following will drag football back decades and may cost England the 2018 world cup

Their ground is in the middle of a Victorian Coranation St style estate ( ala Glebe St ) with a rabbit warren of back alleys where their scum (not interesed in the match , just the fight ) fans wait to ambush visiting fans



The sooner they get relegated and take Hull City with them into Division 1 with their Millwall and Leeds brethren the better

Leigh Miners and Easts are the best aren't they - especially Miners (:winkicon_smile.gif. Put them clubs on Bridgends doorstep, and throw in a few SL clubs like W1gan/Wire/Saints. Then they don't need their own rules.
Junior development is beyond me as an outsider tbh. Mick Higham for example to some Leigh fans was developed by us and thats it. Surely a player progresses and gets better or worse as he goes along from school age right up to SL level. Doesn't matter if a player was playing dodge ball in jungle somewhere in Africa and was then taken on by a club to play RL then they have contributed to that player making progress surely - even if its a short period. Also to me postcodes don't mean anything either.
Regarding Leeds - I think you have a major gridge against them.

Millwall are my hated club - even more so than the Dark Side in Trafford



I remember Millwall fans going on rampage down Rusholme after one game against us. Their hooligans have given the club a bad name also.

to have

Also I have met Mr Hetherington , his opinion of Leigh Centurions and the lower leagues is not very complementary and in my opinion he carries far too much clout within the RFL

They also cheat on the pitch more than any other club

Sorry but your post doesn't answer my anger about the double standards applied to junior development

How long has there been a RL team playing from Leigh Miners ?, be they senior teams or junior

Would we have these teams so strong in junior development if there was not a Pro club in the town ?

Don't know what you mean exactly about double standards. I thought my exagerated example of the guy in Africa with great ball skills in Dodge ball was hinting that even if players had rugby skills and potential already - did Celtic make a contribution also ? I am assuming tho they represented Celtic and not a local amateur club.

Regarding your Pro team and Miners example, then surely this shows having a high profile team in the area does help in the long run.

The thread is getting tedious now (no offence against yourself of course

) tho I think. I think too many things are just being repeated from months ago.

For me it comes down to the RFL being embarressed that the sport is a largely played in the North.
A RL game is worth watching if its in Bridgend or Batley so long as its played to the same rules for all and everyone has the same chance of failure or success.

The Heartlands died a long time ago and doesn't really exist IMO, I'd love people where I live to know about RL (circa 10mins from a local lower league team, circa 50 mins to a host of SL teams) but they don't.
I here " expansion , expansion" is what's best by people at Redhall - even taking the game to expand in France but the game is still a minority sport in the UK with vast area's near to where you or I live not knowing anything about RL - a huge untapped audience ignored

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Yes we should be alarmed at Leighs gates, but so should the RFL, Once old style clubs in what once was the RL "Heartlands" lose support then its time to start worrying, especially if support in the new clubs doesn't match expectations.
Mr Lewis seems to have a obsessive quest to overhaul Union in being a national sport, what he has compleltley missed is that Union knows its heartlands and largely looks after them as well as trying to expand , they know only a idiot bites off the hand that feeds them.

Bit like the Wire fans in our SL year.........