Agreed, we were awful when we beat London Broncos 40-0 in April. Haven't been to a game since.


I agree with your comment about our forwards though, overall, too lightweight in my opinion.

To be fair,Acton's not used to playing so many games.

Apologies, to clarify I mean Ben and drew never let us down in defence. Not that I think so anyway. They always both seem solid to me. You feel as though summat is more of a leader than either? Is that that this big hype around him?

I agree there is still cons but I don’t we could replace either with better ATM, and do you not think in time they can be what we need? Despite for me doing a good job now?

I’m with big time on this, Sammut is very maverick, yeah he does some very good things in attack but there all for he’s self, he is a good player at this level but gets found out against the SL teams, stick with these too for now. Daley cherry Evans is looking for a way out of Manley.. he said he wants back too the Gold Coast I’m sure he wouldn’t mind a few months on the golden sands of Pennington flash

To be honest, you said you had only seen Sammut play twice. I don't think you can make a judgement on just two games. He can kick any team all over the park, and kicked us all over the park many a time. On form he is unplayable.

Thats the difference as both Reynolds and Hutchison cannot step up to that level,their play is predictable, therefore playable. Their partnership is just too, two dimensional.

Will they improve? You have to look at the facts as Sunday showed, they are stuck in their ways.

Well Hutchison was first choice NRL 7 until his injury - so it’s pretty clear he has the ability to step up to a far better standard than Champ rugby don’t you think
Jury out on the levels Reynolds can reach but he’s deffo improved this season

They wont turn into Sammut, Ford, etc... But as we've seen, their play will improve if the players around them perform better. We're not going to sign a new half back this month, so we need some front rowers to step up to give them the sort of platform they need.

We wont be in the top 4 unless we get some fresh energy the lads are gassed. unless we get some decent middles we are done.

Chicken & the Egg.

This time last year KR were bringing in Masoe, Carney ETC

I agree,for me the CC was always going to be too much,but anyone who say's it generated a bit of money,well fine,bring some middles in with it.

Yes and junior kangaroo. Having the ability and actually doing the job are two different things. Reynolds with the expericence he's gained at both levels should be ripping this league up now.

No very true they won't turn into them. But the passing at times from both of them is so poor,it makes the forwards look poor. Most are suicide passes stood still.

Both are great behind a dominant pack, on the front foot both can dictate play but we aren't winning many games in the middle.

When you are winning the ruck in the middle you can play shape and get overlaps like Castleford do so well.

There have to be players out there who need game time.

Warrington-Dom Crosby
Salford-Ryan Lannon
Castleford-Gadwin Springer

The only player dictating play is dummy half. Theres nowt from the halves.

I think criticism of the halves is harsh. As said above the halves need the pack to provide the platform, when they have we have done really well. Look at Drinkwater behind the massive Catalans pack, he looks a world beater, never saw that at Leigh. I know it is not necessarily part of the halves game, but our get through so much work both taking on the line and defending and to be fair Ben's tactical kicking has improved. We need an injection of energy in the middle, Baldwinson was v disappointing - I think Gladwin Springer is a great shout.

Totally agree.

But Catalans pack hasn't changed,the halfback has.

Surly though this time last year KR has assured they were going to be in the top 4 and could spend accordinglyc in our position it would be risky to take On a higher wage bracket. Surly it is better to get into the top 4 which this team is more than capable of, then go from there. The only way we could get players now would be if we had the financial backing regardless of Where we finished and Derek has stated the perhaps he can’t afford to back us outside the top 4.

Perhaps..... but if summat was so quality and highly ratdd why did he remain at Workington for 18 months before getting his move, and London’s results on the large against the better champ team said would suggest he struggles against better opposition. Something which after the “settling period” shall we call it, Ben and drew haven’t done really. Even if people think there performance on Sunday was so so bad. Surly drew will continue to go from strength to strength as surly being JR kangaroo captain and getting in the NRL team Of the year is more than having the ability and actually putting it on show?

No, Derek has committed to the cause after the Leeds game. He says he has been re-invigorated by the team and the fans and is back in it for the long haul whether we make the middle 8's or not. He is actively looking for additions for the squad.

Well if that’s the case then woopie!! That would be great news

Well,with our next 5 (difficult) games away,he wants bi dooin.

No disrespect C&W i really hope this is accurate as i hope you agree we seem to be building a decent team with hard working honest coaching staff and eager quality players that given time will repay the faith they have been given ( at least the majority have)

Well the potential new structure gives us a lot of hope even if things go tits up this year - maybe that's what's given DB the boost

He would have to know what finances are available for that to be true. Given he doesn't have a seat in SL that info would be privy,would it not?