Take your pick - if it makes you happy.

But the harm being done to this town and club is shocking.

Yes we do, some people want to run before we can walk, we need to give Millward time.

By who or what , explain yourself if you want a reasoned answer ?

People with unhealthy agenda's - reason away!

Nothing post again either explain yourself properly

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Listen we should be prosecuted under the trades descriptions act £14 for that standard of RL it was poor very poor no change so far from last season apart from Paul n Bibbey we have,nt signed anyone of note the backline apart from Stanton are carthorses no pace
no exciting players that can make you stand up in yer seats when they get the ball
this last few years at Leigh we have seen some very poor rugby played hopefully with I Millward in charge things will change sooner than later but to be honest he,s gonna struggle with the players he as at present not enough class to challenge for anything other than a midway standing in the league in my opinion

OMG so you're all writing the team off before we've even kicked the season off? I know today wasn't great but give the lads a chance FFS.

Like i said earlier we really do need to give Millward time and if and i mean if we get in the top six i would be happy.

Well said Mish

Alstead is certainly no slouch. Donlan and Mort certainly not carthorses either.
Nanyn has other strengths.
Don't know what some people want at all - whigin gits

I agree come on guys

better performances than today. It was embarrassing.

I don't care if people think we stink like a three week owd pie as long as we win

Which part of PRE-SEASON friendly are you struggling with

I think people are forgetting this is our first real competitive game and the fact we missed quite a bit of training due to the weather.

The problem is , how many times over recent years have we seen ourselves dragged down to the level of our opponents , rather than playing to our potential

Today we performed no better than a national conference team against a bunch of talented and enthusiastic kids

If we cannot raise our standard irrelivant to the opposition we will be staring relegation in the face again in September

I have to agree with both the Leythers and Starbugs posts.

Without a doubt. I think - and hoping - that todays performance was due to a bit of rustiness as it was our first real competitive game and that we''ll be a much better side against Oldham.

I thought there where about 800 Wigan fans today. A very good following imo meaning around 700 more Leythers than last week.Despite the doom and gloom in view of the known Wigan side I actually find that encouraging from our point of view.

For a so called genuine RL fan, you think Starbug would get off his hate campaign and for once and realise that Leigh are an average team at best who were run close by a good rugby team with years of experience playing together and have a "winning" mentality/habit.

Much of the Wigan side are the "best of the best" youngsters around and have a good pedigree and future.

Have a think which side will be hurting most after todays result!!! (it aint Leigh)

Doesn't stop me going paying £14 quid though!!!

get grip Starbug and stop living in 1971!!!!

Very encouraging , except the lacklustre display will mean that most will not be coming back in a hurry

Just 6/7 1 st teamers playing 30 minutes each would have provided the spark we needed today IMO

I can see the point your getting at Starbug. No dis-respect to the youngsters as they probably deserved the win but it just didnt feel the intensity the derby should of had.

That's it in one

I defended the W1g4n coach in not sending a fullish 1 st team , but not one single player , sorry they were out of order

You make valid points but if they,ll pay£14 per match and we do start to play good stuff and bearing in mind they knew what sort of Wigan side(who played well in my view) I think we can get them back.

We are better than we played today that is obvious.

I don,t think IM will be satisfied with our team's performance and I doubt most of our players will either.

After last season it's got to be back to basics. You have to learn to walk before you can run. The first half I was mesmerised with the number of angles we were running. Didn't see that at all last season Second half we lost that! Gotta take the positives out of every game!

I think you are right there.

It was almost like the HT talk went OK no fancy stuff we,ll play it close for 20 minutes then we,ll batter this bunch of kids.

Never underestimate your opponent springs to mind.