I agree with Oggy and if Hock is a liability why does PR play him ?

PR and his assistants select our team.

I don't watch our players train but they do. 26 games unbeaten and crowds on the increase says it all for me.

Frank,I think Hock is good player if he cuts out the trying to sort out all the brawls himself,I've never seen him tap anyone on the head ,or sledge them for mistakes,as you say Rowls picks the team and must see something positive in Gaz Hock ,or he wouldn't be in the 17,our pack has 2 enforcers in Hock and Barlow,2 very good hookers ,2 great workhorses in Dixon and Goulden , with Fui and Oli and Emmitt to bolster the rest,for me a formidable pack,with a few additions giving us à top class pack.This is only my opinion but a choice between Hock and Acton?Hock everyday of the week.

Well said frank.

The Hock fan club is out in force. He must have something but has anyone sussed out what he brought to the team yesterday, he did get a standing ovation from the staff when he got sent to the bin.

PR does pick the team. That does not mean I can't disagree with his decision. Hock is a liability end off.

Reffy, I watched a boxing match and one hit below the belt twice and then he butted him and then the other boxer hit him back below the belt and head butted him too……....….No they didn't the ref stopped that from happening. There are so few full time refs the rest are not good enough, so stop defending the ones who are simply not up to scratch to officiate intense games. Ben thaler showed a good example of how it should be done.SIMPLES

I will beat you up on Sunday

Mind you I might let you off

Cokey, I have said earlier up this thread that the ref made plenty errors yesterday, the main one not carding Hock which didn't help him later on in the game. It was also quite obvious to all but the sycophants that there is a nastiness about Leigh at the moment that gets more embarrassing every time the same pettiness is displayed, it was on show virtually from the start yesterday. There should be a good feeling given the long stretch of wins but it is being ruined by the posing, niggling and cheap shots. And before you come back with, "the nasty opposition start it", not always .

You can disagree , but 26 on the trot is all that matters, So I'll go with PR decisions.end of!

I will not come back with the opposition........ But what I will say,is that the ref must have control of a game from the start, and if they don't then it escalates into the niggling farce like it did yesterday.
And I'll reiterate, that some refs are simply just not good enough to officiate big games.
Do you think the likes of Chris wheelbarrow

would go welll in SL?

Reffy I'm neither in or out of the Hock fan club,I agree Gaz should have been at least Yellow Carded for the slap in the Fev player ,maybe it would have made the game a better spectacle we shall never know, but every team needs an Enforcer we have 2 from the days of Stan Owen ,and Derek Higgs, through to Timmy ,when Timmy left for Hull we had Costello, Andy Pucill, and Dave Smith ,in our pack,with due respect they wouldn't BOSS and Dominate other forwards,our pack at the moment has everything,Inn my previous post I left out Haggs and Sarsfield ,by accident,Haggs is a very skilful player can do most things,and I see Sarsfield as the running second row,giving us 6-12 players like a RL quality street bunch.Im abhor spitting , but I'd sooner have Gaz Hock inside my tent spitting out,than outside my tent spitting in,if you know what I mean?

No Cokey, but neither will Leigh with their current attitude.

Chas, most of us would rather not have Hock spitting anywhere.

Just watched the game back again...

Fev in attack - very average

Fev in defence - very, very average.

Fev conclusion - ****! And they'll be lucky to get anywhere near top 4.

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Leigh in attack - showing clear signs of good form and fluency returning.

Leigh in defence - Very, very good. Worked for each other.

Leigh conclusion - Much better discipline than in recent weeks. The only one without a brain this week was Hock. Even Barlow just concentrated on the rugby.

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Referee - Absolute bobbins (and that's being kind)

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Leythers - Loud and proud. A great atmosphere. .. I take a vulnerable young man to quite a few Leigh matches and he loves every minute of it. Yesterday was no different.

Reffy it was just a use of a phrase,I think controlled aggression is very effective and in Rowls we have a coach to do this no opposition will be successful in bossing us, but our pack can be very skilful as well.

There is talent throughout the squad which make the nastiness so unbelievable, hit the opponents with points instead of niggles and playground antics.

Ant you should be commended for helping your young friend attend games



,but I feel you do Fev an injustice they are a decent team,they played a big chunk of the game a man down,and have a big robust pack ,I do like having a go at Refs as they always play it as they see it , though I agree being a bit more stronger early on it may have been a better game,our performance for me was around 6/10 yet we still won comfortably,still 3 points though and Fev still to come to the LSV.

I feel sorry for hock! Some people on here have been out for him since he signed for us! I don't think he has done much wrong since he joined us! It's was something or nothing on Sunday! Hock is a massive plus too our team. When the lads turn in him we should be worried but they work for him and know everyone of them would rather play with him than against!

Hi Ian, totally agree. Anyway it's Bo Peep time for me now, I've had too many Spanish beers terneet


and I'm coming wom early int morn. OLE and adios .

Derek , hope you had a great holiday,hope to see yer soon,keep posting.

No commendation needed. It's my job.... I was just pointing out that the atmosphere from the Leythers is great, even for someone who could be easily affected by such a large intimidating crowd.

Plus, mate, it's only 2 points for a win ..... and Fev [iare[/i ****! They definitely boring, anyway

The problem I have with him is he hasn't done much full stop. Players should be picked on form. Struggling to see how he justifies his place to be honest

well said iggy. Picked on form, if that were the case I would be happy to have him in team.

Sorry, I got lost for a minute then,I thought you were talking about your coach.