In that case Ian,Harpo shall make a return to my avatar.

Fixture planners done us no favours.
The fear is that after an horrendous start we have nil points after 4 games and even worse several team members sat in the stand bashed and broken for the next set of games. We are already then chasing our tails
Club felt the need to seek to bring in a conditioner. Presumably thought was some of the senior lads maybe needed redefining and the younger lads Hopkins/Acton a move up to the next level in order to compete We signed the Aussie lad "to play long minutes". Someone posted Saints and Leeds have small packs, hardly as we will see at LSV shortly. We need that power and stamina to keep us in the games. We will score tries.
Jukes said that we made poor errors and bench did not have any impact. Hansen mainly and Hock looked to be able to compete but not for the duration.Stewart made 32 tackles.
We have a lot to fix. Bring on the Rhinos.

Wire lost to Catalans with Hilly missing,probably the best pack on paper.Long way to go.

Well I thought Riddy wasn't at his best.

We should bring back Acton Higham and Hopkins imo.

Move Mitch Brown to fullback

Rocky on the wing Reynolds at stand off.

We can beat Leeds.

Oh and Maria on the bench for Vea.

Brown at fullback is reliant on Tonga at .Naughton is the winger on board.Riddys not fit.

Totally agree about Maria frank, he looked good in the 2 friendlies, whilst Vea has had little impact so far......

Naughton is a very good fullback who is good under the high ball and is rapid.

To be honest Keith I've hardly seen Vea play before, but because we signed him from Saints, was expecting more. Yes, it's 'early doors' but he's hardly Fuifui Moimoi (impact wise)

All will be well.
Let's just hope for warmer weather - took yonks to thaw out last night

The run of fixtures are perfect for us. We could play to the very last round to get up to speed and we will still not be going to Castleford and taking the points this year. It is time to lower the expectation levels a notch. There are still plenty of fixtures where we are extremely capable and perhaps fancied of picking up points and they come further in the campaign. By then we will have learned and be more hardened to this level.

Castleford were superb in flashes and not many will come away with a victory in their own back yard including our Trinity supporting friend.

I would be inclined however to mix it up a little. Brown needs to move to full back, and I want to see Hampshire's elusiveness in the halves as Riddy is clearley not fit. Hopkins in for Vea and yes time to put Acton on the bench, who I do believe is playing for Sheffield tommorrow.

It is okay putting in defensive players and tackling your hearts out but to win Rugby League matches you have to also hit the line and score tries.

Over all Friday night was not the end of the world. MOM for Leigh ? Josh Drinkwater. He was pivotal in what we did well. A good scrum half and not out of place at this level.

We are not SL top 8, but if we remain relatively injury free we will not be going down either and that would be job done this year.

Love it Derek.

Keith ,I agree with most of your post , but for the Danny Tickle part,I think Danny still has a lot to offer, he puts in plenty of tackles and always supports the ball player,deffo in my 17 .Charlie knows.

Fui wouldn't last 5 mins at SL these days

Tickle the unsung hero in the M8's and plenty to offer this season also.

The forwards are not our worry IMO, reckon they will hold there own, Tonga to centre, Brown to FB, defence is massive at this level - can't get away with the mistakes of last night

I tend to agree, Fui would most likely struggle in SL this year.
However, we could well miss the lack of a big impact front rower coming from the bench, which I what Fui offered in abundance. Castlefords interchanges were awesome Friday night. Which leads me to ask, what would our best option for a "high impact" interchange bench? For me:
Hood
Hock
Acton
Maria

I agree with ever bit of this post ..
For me vea is a crap Fui (saints fans we're glad to se the back of him)
Drinkwater was the mom for us followed by green who made some good yards.
All in all it's one game I think all us fans like DB should have one goal this year and that's to be in super league in 2018 hopefully with out needing the million pound game.

Just watching again , counted at least 4 flat/forward passes from Cas in the 1 st 10 minutes , this is what appeared to give Cas better go forward than us , something we need to copy

Matty Dawson should have made a better attempt at scoring on our 1 st attack

Ref missed Chase dropping onto Drinkwaters head causing the knock on , should have been a penalty

On 10 minutes the kick by Hampshire was excellent , but too much enthusiasm by Higson in the chase left a gap for them to escape a drop out

Missing touch , criminal

On 14 minutes Drinkwaters put a good kick but again poor pressure allowed them to escape

19 minutes Cas s 1 st offload = try

24 minutes Cas s 2 nd offload = try

27 minutes we batter at their line after our kick off but poor final play pass wide rather than a grubbed into the corner

Lots of pushes on defenders as they chase their kicks

Lots of work on tommorrows video to look at

Was waiting for someone to mention the Matty Dawson incident. He seemed to just freeze. It definitely looked a scoreable chance on TV.

Quite right chris,he made no attempt to go for it.

I think Darryl had done his homework and exposed some bad defensive habits from the players that stepped up. Whilst it was entertaining last year to see Higson big hitting the centres Cas simply made him look a mug when he pushed in too quick, players like gale will just fire it out to the winger or kick into the gap left behind.
They also targeted ridys left shoulder
I think we've got to give brown a shot at FB it was his preferred position in the NRL, be good to get Micky back, and I would definitely bring Hopkins in.
On another note I'd give Tonga 4 weeks and if he can't play he's got to go.
In the positives I thought Green, Hock and Crooks went well, and with a bit more go forward Drinkwater would've been hard to handle.
Nowhere near the end of the world, we need to start working on what's between the players ears now, in this league effort will only take you so far, being smarter will win us games.

Tonga is fully fit. A bit harsh saying get rid if the coach doesn't pick him!

For reasons beyond Bongser's control, he only got to see the last twenty minutes or so of the match. Whilst the game was by that point well beyond Leythe, he saw mainly positives in those minutes (and all of Leigh's points). Rest of game to be seen later in the week.

Must ask one question: how long did Gaz Hock spend on the pitch? He obviously started and finished it and Bongser thought, towards the hooter, how fit and fresh he looked compared to some previous outings against higher SL teams. If he did an hour or more then that is a real plus point judging by some of the praise posted above regarding his general performance. Charlie will know

Is Ridyard that fat bloke with the number six shirt on?

Are you that thin bloke(avatar) with a ring piece over your head?

It wasn't our defence that lost us the game , it was our attack , we failed to exploit our better field position in the 1 st 18 minutes , we should have been a couple of tries up before Cas scored , and as a result of that the fatigue difference wouldn't have been as apparent

Poor kicking and poor pressure

No, but is your head coach a 'hideous blob with massive headphones on his big fat head' ?