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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"The single most important post on this thread until TV viewing figures come in.
£1.25 million pounds in the RL bank - no matter who gets it - is the bottom line.
Would that money have been made on a normal derby weekend? Would the viewing figures have been as high? Somehow I doubt it.
All that said, the RFL organised this particularly badly, even by their standards. 6 Nations and a big North West football derby the same weekend? That was always going to make a huge dent in the attendance. Perhaps the football was unforseeable, I have no interest in the game so wouldn't know when the fixtures are announced, =#FF0000but the 6 Nations clash was unforgiveable.
No matter how much the regular fan sees empty seats at the ground as a sign of failure, the real measure of success is how much money the weekend made or lost.
£1.25 million isn't an amount to be trifled with, is it? The game is about being a sucessful business, not just a sport.'"
So how do they avoid 5 weeks of RU played from the 2 nd week in feb into March , and have this event as a season opener ?
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"The single most important post on this thread until TV viewing figures come in.
£1.25 million pounds in the RL bank - no matter who gets it - is the bottom line.
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It costs them the £500k they are paid by the Welsh tourist board to host the event, plus the roughly £750k from ticket sales (assuming everyone who went bought the cheapest tickets, which they obviously didn't). So I make that a profit of around £1.25 million?'"
Owd up.
If it costs them £500k and they are paid £500k then the net outlay is zero.
And this is without asking for VT standard 'link please' protocol to prove they get £500k. It might be a bag of spanners for all we know.
But one thing is for sure, you dont roll it over then add up some guestimated figure and shout 'Bingo!'
There may not be any money from the tourist board and the Stadium Company might want £1m a day. Ticket sales might not cover the clubs transport and hotel costs, promoting the event, policing, stewarding, the VATman....we don't know. I could guess at a load of figures in an attempt to show it lost money.
Nobody knows unless the RFL tell us. And they don't so until they do lets not kid ourselves otherwise.
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| 20 Teams in the comp only 19 shirts on show there is a least one club missing.
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| As far as I can make out the missing team is Dewsbury
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| Quote ="Token Gesture"20 Teams in the comp only 19 shirts on show there is a least one club missing.'"
Thats what I thought not two.
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| Quote ="maurice"Think the expansion from roots up being displayed in your neck of the woods is great, think expansion too soon is normally doomed. Believe destroying what you have in the hope something better survives is a high risk strategy. Get P'd of with all the 100 years of wasted opportunity brigade when Sky have funded a few clubs for 16 years only. Would love to see 2 x 10 in SL, allowing expansion and not killing the couple of clubs most effected by no promotion.
Think the next few years in recession will sort the men from the boys.'"
AYE (flat cap voice) the RFL are forcing this expansion issue, without there being too much geniune interest. Actually YOU could place any town in the UK, into our premier/super league and they might do ok, how about Ipswich Jets ?
Though it wouldn't take a club that long to build a fan base similiar to salford/wakey/harlequins/wrexham etc, but is that a success ? I think their 'dream' is to see 8/9k averages for these NEW clubs - it's NEVER gonna HAPPEN.
Surely it's better to have a M62 team in SL, AVERAGING 4/5K, after all, they will produce/attract local players, rather than relying on mercenaries/overseas players.
Come SUPER LEAGUE season, everyone seems to forget how bad our national team is, WAY behind in 3rd place, and as for France, what good has Catalan Dragons done for their national team.
RUGBY LEAGUE is a struggling sport, not as bad as it was in the late 70's/early 80's, but MILLENIUM MAGIC does not kid anyone, except RFL/SUPER LEAGUE FANS.
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| It's all right saying all this negative stuff but the fact is that there were 7 entertaining rugby league games on the telly over two days. What sport other than tennis and footy does this? I personally think it's a great advert for our sport. Just needs the organising sorting.
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| Perhaps as well, I can't imagine the forum curmudgeons actually enjoying something. Is there a local moaning gene?
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| I love my RL every sunday and thursdays on tv.
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| Quote ="reffy"Perhaps as well, I can't imagine the forum curmudgeons actually enjoying something. Is there a local moaning gene?'"
If you and others want to attend , then by all means do so , if you want to watch on TV , fine , not a problem , but essentially it isn't anything to do with Leigh Centurions RL club , if you want a sensible discussion about it , try the VT or one of the many SL clubs boards that played at it
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| Quote ="Starbug"If you and others want to attend , then by all means do so , if you want to watch on TV , fine , not a problem , but essentially it isn't anything to do with Leigh Centurions RL club , if you want a sensible discussion about it , try the VT or one of the many SL clubs boards that played at it
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The single most important post on this thread .
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| Quote ="Starbug"If you and others want to attend , then by all means do so , if you want to watch on TV , fine , not a problem , but essentially it isn't anything to do with Leigh Centurions RL club , if you want a sensible discussion about it , try the VT or one of the many SL clubs boards that played at it
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Dear me Steve has someone knicked your ball. I've never read anything so ridiculous in my life. If your not in our gang bugger off. Grow up. This is not your personall board. If you don't like what people are posting why don't you do one.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Dear me Steve has someone knicked your ball. I've never read anything so ridiculous in my life. If your not in our gang bugger off. Grow up. This is not your personall board. If you don't like what people are posting why don't you do one.
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Read again what I posted , word 41 is the relevant one
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South Wales Scorpions aren't in the NR Cup, so presumably weren't at the launch?
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| Isn't it funny when someone disagrees with a SL post the usual subjects come on and start hurling the 'Curmudgeons, or flat cappers etc..' as if it was an insult or do they think that people are not allowed their own opinions, its called realism, like starbug says it's really nothing to do with Leigh Centurions, myself I just hope some of these millions of profit trickles it's way down to Leigh Miners Rangers or Leigh East or Atherton Dragons etc.. as it's those clubs that do all the hard work and prove to the 'shiny boys' that without them they would have to play 13 over the hill antipodeons. But I wont hold my breath waiting for it to happen.
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| I don't agree with most things SL Fred but I definitely don't agree with people suggesting that I go onto another board to talk about a "rugby league" issue. Are we now to say that anything not appertaining to Leigh Centurions is not allowed on this board? This discusion was mainly between Leythers so has a place on the "leythers forum". Also the whole froum is named "RL fans " is it not? So we should be able to discuss any RL subject on any forum as long as it is not rude, defamatory or down right out of order.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"I don't agree with most things SL Fred but I definitely don't agree with people suggesting that I go onto another board to talk about a "rugby league" issue. Are we now to say that anything not appertaining to Leigh Centurions is not allowed on this board? This discusion was mainly between Leythers so has a place on the "leythers forum". Also the whole froum is named "RL fans " is it not? So we should be able to discuss any RL subject on any forum as long as it is not rude, defamatory or down right out of order.'"
No problem discussing anything , but as I suggested this is the important bit
Quote If you and others want to attend , then by all means do so , if you want to watch on TV , fine , not a problem , but essentially it isn't anything to do with Leigh Centurions RL club , if you want a =#FF0000sensible discussion about it , try the VT or one of the many SL clubs boards that played at it '"
You will be very lucky to have a ' sensible ' well thought out even handed , unbiased discussion about a subject like this on here
Just the way it is i'm afraid
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| Quote ="FredParky"s it's really nothing to do with Leigh Centurions'"
Thanks for the reminder, I forgot to include "parochial" in my earlier post.
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| Quote ="reffy"Thanks for the reminder, I forgot to include "parochial" in my earlier post.'"
It is as relevant to leigh centurions as the FA cup , hth
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| Just name one thing that is relevant to Leigh Centurions in the Millenium Magic? - oh sorry you don't appear to like answering questions do you reffy and you did mention parochial earlier in the thread.
Not suggesting discussions shouldnt take place Tony, only the relevancy of those discussions to Leigh Centurions, thats what people who call others can't see, did I watch the M weekend? - some of it yes but as I was filming on both weekend days I didn't get to see it all- i have it on my SKY box, will I watch it? possibly at a future date but as I am not particularly bothered about watching game I know the result of, then I don't know.
Would I go to a M weekend? No definately not and for other PERSONAL reasons as to why I don't go to Wembley or Old Trafford any more, nothing to do with being parochial but personal.
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| Hold on there are threads about Wakey. Leigh Miners, Leigh East, allsorts. None of which have any relevance to Leigh Centurions but I have never seen any protests about these threads.
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| Nine out of the last twenty topics have nothing to do with Centurions, the majority don't attract protest and derision because they don't mention the hated Super League.
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| No protests from me only questioning the relevance to Leigh Centurions re the Millenium weekend, one could argue that as Miners East and Wakey as they appear to be the favs for us playing them next year are relevant, if im thinking correctly Starbug was only sugesting an alternative place to argue the relevance of the millenium weekend which to be fair Its one place I never look at - but then again I don't tend to go on many other boards, what with me being parochial and the like
And it's not the SLE thats hated well not by me anyway as I have no ambitions whatsoever in those directions, I hate nobody or nothing I just question waste and injustice
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