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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"In was also on that terrace young Charles but disagree, about 700 to 750 travelled with about 500 in that end at the time & only about 50 sang this about Jamie, I make that 10% ish !
While on, I didn't see the contact at the time *have now on video* & the ref & linesman played on & definitely DID NOT see it either ! In fact a fan *presumably Leigh* was talking as I passed at half time & he said that a Batley Official had complained hard to the 4th Official & the 4th then contacted the Ref which seems plausible, play had moved way down the pitch *as it would after a kick* but at no point did Child or the linesman look anywhere near immediately interested !
For those who have not seen the video clip, the evidence shows the elbow raised & looks quite last second in movement, the contact also looks glancing rather than fully square on but contact regardless. It is entirely possible that Hemmingway's injury or unconsciousness was sustained when he hit the deck which was really hard & parched, or a combination of both factors, his head deviated very little on contact with Acton.
It is important to stress that none of this is intended to admonish blame from Acton or diminish his responsibility as he fully deserves to be banned for at least 6 games as it was late, high & avoidable IMHO.
Acton inability to stay away from the disciplinary at Red Hall is again adversely affecting the season & his overall standing at the Club & has caused a hole to appear that a prop should fill.'"
Thank you for your reply Ste, and the Young reference,my observation of the number of Leigh fans applaudin, and chanting Jamies, name probably was way out, it just amazes me how any Leigh fans can do this.
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| Clarification of the “ ref and TJs didn’t see it” comments, if a hit is late and after the ball has gone (either passed or kicked) the onus is in the nearest TJ to pick it up.
The ref is watching where the ball is going, the TJ should watch where it has been.
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| Quote ="reffy"Clarification of the “ ref and TJs didn’t see it” comments, if a hit is late and after the ball has gone (either passed or kicked) the onus is in the nearest TJ to pick it up.
The ref is watching where the ball is going, =#FF0000the TJ should watch where it has been.'"
That's my take on it as well, Reffy.
When he came to sit in the stand, Acton said that the ref said he had seen it, and the tj said he hadn't. From the ref's initial reaction he didn't appear to see it and only stopped play when he looked back at Hemingway.
Unfortunately the video doesn't show what I believed I saw. (specs and all!). I watched Acton, as the ball was kicked. He definitely had time to withdraw from contact, and didn't. To make matters worse, his contact was high - although I still swear that it wasn't with his elbow. Anyway, that's all academic - the contact was late, (fact) the contact was high, (fact) and the contact was avoidable. (in my opinion)
It's also academic how many matches he gets because, unfortunately, he just can't seem to resist doing these stupid, and dangerous things.
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| It's telling that he has been dropped from the squad for Saturdays game. His hearing is not until next week so would have been available for the Rochdale game. Has Keiron lots patience with him?
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| He's in the squad on Centurions' website, C&W.
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"He's in the squad on Centurions' website, C&W.'"
Yes, but in the "Not selected" section
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Yes, but in the "Not selected" section
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Wow, he WAS in the announced 19. Still had the page up on another tab (opened at about 1pm today). Took a refresh to "demote" him. Looks like he might very well have played his last two or three minutes for Leigh!
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| I hope so he a liability no need for it all spent more time on sideline than on field this season
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| May have been left out so it will count to the length of his suspension. Probably get 5 or 6 so may be available for end of play offs if we make it!
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| Quote ="Leyther14"May have been left out so it will count to the length of his suspension. Probably get 5 or 6 so may be available for end of play offs if we make it!'"
Wondered about that though contacting Red Hall to announce that Leigh already were enforcing the suspension that the former were yet to decide upon is an admission of guilt and there is no guarantee that RH will accept it. If they have then the stately swan has been furiously paddling away underwater since last weekend.
We'll need everyone available at the end of the Eights should we get there.
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| He been dropped and fully deserved
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| Quote ="Montyburns"=#FF0000He been dropped and fully deserved'"
That's my read on it too, Monty.
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| It’s true Alan it was decided early in the week can’t keep doing what he doing and get rewarded
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| Suspensions aren’t backdated, the fact that he isn’t playing this weekend is irrelevant.
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| Only time I've known suspensions start before a hearing is when the club has requested to move a hearing back.
Unfortunately, Acton can't be trusted to stay on the pitch. Otherwise I'd make him play 80 minutes, he owes his team mates some extra workload.
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| Quote ="Alan"That's my read on it too, Monty.'"
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| I'm in no position to judge Jamie. He has qualities and abilities that I never had or reached as a player. I can say however that no matter what my opinion is of him as a player, Leigh Centurions need players that can perform at the best of their ability on the field. He has consistently shown over several years that cannot be relied upon to do this because he cannot be relied upon to stay on the field.
For me we need to find a prop before the deadline and plan on Jamie not being selected even after what ever suspension ends. We will not win a game in the 8s with 12 men on the field.
I've seen the game, and regardless of my opinion or anyone else's as to how forceful the contact was, one thing I beleive is undesputable is that the contact was totally unnecessary.
Also a player went to hospital because of that contact.
Enough is enough.
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| Quote ="Vancouver Leyther"I'm in no position to judge Jamie. He has qualities and abilities that I never had or reached as a player. I can say however that no matter what my opinion is of him as a player, Leigh Centurions need players that can perform at the best of their ability on the field. He has consistently shown over several years that cannot be relied upon to do this because he cannot be relied upon to stay on the field.
For me we need to find a prop before the deadline and plan on Jamie not being selected even after what ever suspension ends. We will not win a game in the 8s with 12 men on the field.
I've seen the game, and regardless of my opinion or anyone else's as to how forceful the contact was, one thing I beleive is undesputable is that the contact was totally unnecessary.
Also a player went to hospital because of that contact.
Enough is enough.'"
They have a prop enroute VL, done and dusted.
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| When found guilty, it will be the twelfth time Jamie Acton has been suspended in just over three years. Derek needs to make a decision. 4 years left on his contract...
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"When found guilty, it will be the twelfth time Jamie Acton has been suspended in just over three years. Derek needs to make a decision. =#8080004 years left on his contract...
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Could have give him 10, still won't be worth a peanut. His contract would have been built around his previous ill-discipline.
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| Quote ="reffy"Suspensions aren’t backdated, the fact that he isn’t playing this weekend is irrelevant.'"
Thought Barlow's was (for what good that will do him).
Wasn't Hardaker's? etc
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| Hopefully someone stupid enough out there to come and buy him from us so don’t have pay him out of contract
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Thought Barlow's was (for what good that will do him).
Wasn't Hardaker's? etc'"
Weren't their suspensions issued by the UK anti-doping agency though? Once a club/player has been found to test positive, the club usually does not select that player. That period of non--selection then generally counts towards their suspension.
Suspensions for foul play, only commence when the player has been found guilty of, or pleads guilty to, the offence.
At least, that's the way I read it!
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Hopefully someone stupid enough out there to come and buy him from us so don’t have pay him out of contract'"
Kirkhall is touting his CV round the Club's As we speak remember he compares him to Liam Watts and Ben Westwood, only similarity for me,they all have 2 arms and legs.
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| They didn't have as many splinters in their backsides!
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