So what you are saying is that the original info you gave us was wrong Mr Oracle?



If you did know anything at all, you will know that this move is not DEFINITELY going too happen at all.

I didn't state its not going to happen, i just said you seem to know more than we do.



It is common practice too sell season tickets in advance, this doesn't mean they cant/wont be transfered now does it?

The info i heard was it could happen as soon as the next up coming season, but as i haven't had it confirmed didn't let my mouth run off, like some of us.....
Where is the 'egg on your face' smiley?





And BTW, i know that your source isnt always 100% reliable.......

Like the 2 Aussies Milward had called brought over with im for an example....

What are you waffling on about?

About you knowing more than me, apparantly not!

Oh dear.

My dad's bigger than your dad.
Grow up mate.
We put these up to discuss them, i was adament this was the worst thing in the world when i heard it when i was talking in the office at LSV last week, but after hearing a few Leythers say we just boycott them and the Sale fans saying they wouldn't be able to make it to Leigh. Maybe it's not the worst thing in the world. That's me correcting myself mate, maybe it's time you swallowed your pride and listen to other people instead of ranting and making yourself look like an aggressive idiot.

No, what i was saying is that you said they ARE moving in, i said, that you know more than the LSV staff do as nothing has been confirmed yet.

The LSV needs too make money to stay open and yes Sale have been down twice, but nothing is set yet.
I believe they want too nominate the LSV as a second home ground for the European Cup, but again i can not confirm this, so wont.

I stand corrected if they don't, i've also been on the VT saying to Salford fans that after what other people have been saying that LSV doesn't seem to be a viable option for Sale and maybe they should watch out, if i'm wrong I admit it but i'm only saying what I have been told.

That's a real belter Ste, nice one.

If Sale moved in then who do you think will be the apple of LSV's eye when they will be getting crowds 3-4 times the size of Leigh RL? Take it from somebody who knows first hand, being low down in the LSV pecking order isn't a nice place to be.

That is the root of the problem, Sale would be good for the LSV only and if they present an attractive case then it will be a done deal.

Weren't Genesis were part of the original set-up? Didn't they bring some funding to the table? I believe there's been some doubts over whether that funding has actually be used but nevertheless it was part of the plan that made things happen.

The £500,000 was brought to the table, but the Football Foundation didn't allow it to be handed over until we were given a 10 year tenancy agreement. It never happened, and the money has now been reclaimed by the FF.

Thought something like that had happened, the point I was trying to make is they (Genesis) IMO have more rights than Sale or Rovers etc as without their input along with all the other original partners it may never have happened, it was sold to all and sundry as a 'community complex.'

Completely agree. Sadly, despite the original premise that 'they' won't be trying to recoup any of the original outlay for the project, it would appear that we simply don't fit in with their plan so from our point of view it's time to draw a line under it and move on to somewhere where we are actually welcome. Anybody who can't see the parallels between LGFC and what could happen to Leigh RL if Sale moved in are sadly deluded IMHO.

Been to watch Sale many times at EP average attendance is between 7 & 8000 with the big games leicester etc they would fill LSV, I don't see any reason why this move would have a detremental effect on Leigh. For the businesses in Leigh it could only be beneficiall.
All the talk about Kennedy bringing about the downfall of SC is nonesense, he is a business man who gave SC what they wanted a few years ago, he has paid their policing bills to allow them to get the games on, the only people to blame for SCs downfall is Stockport County's Board.
Its the same scenario as what happened at Orrell RU a few years ago all the members were more than willing to queue up to take their cash payments from Whelan, then were surprised when they found they then didn't run the club, bumbling idiots who have no one to blame but themselves.
As far as playing second fiddle to Sale at LSV I don't want to see that happen but what is the difference between that and Wig*n who would you imagine would take priority at the DW when push comes to shove.

Is there no legal way that Genesis can get into LSV? Even as a rugby fan i thought the setup with East, Centurions, Genesis and the Harriers looked a tidy set up. I though Blackburn Reserves was just a bonus to ease the costs to the others.

We don't fit in to the LSV's masterplan, unfortunately. Basically, we don't bring in the bucks.

At the risk of upsetting a lot of people, for a stadium of this size and with the running cost's that go with it 24/7, 52 weeks a year............then from a "gate money" viewpoint, I doubt if the Centurions even manage to pay Simon Toone's wages ? That is why any suggestion of other clubs coming to the LSV must be viewed with an open mind.......Leigh Centurions on their own even in Super League would not cover the costs alone.

As for Genesis, the LSV isn't for Unibond football, I just hope the proposed move to Crilly Park works out for you Matt !

I don't see what the problem is ?

If you want to watch them, fine. If you don't, Fine.

This stadium is there to be used and it isn't Leigh RLFC's devine right to have it to ourselves.

If Sale pay the price, whats the issue ?

Winter Rugby ? If it comes off, I may watch a game or 2 myself !

It will have no bearing on Leigh RL at all.

What Snowy said....

The bottom line is that this doesn't affect us as Leigh Centurions fans. No one is going to bar us from the ground, no one is going to round us up to go and watch an inferior product in the winter months, no one is going to insist on moving the LSV to Sale......

Non issue. Whether they come or not, LCRLC will be playing at LSV for the forseeable future, it will cost a rather large amount to buy us out of our contract, we have nowhere else to go, and with the intention of applying for SL we need a good quality ground to play in.
Such as the LSV.

I wish that I could share your faith, Nik. Once bitten, twice as shy as they say.

What is the fear tho of a lodger at LSV that play most of their games in Winter? Its money in the bank, and less money for Centurions to chip in and as already mentioned we may get a bit of money going our way because of the share we have.

Because there is an overlap from February to May and again from August to October...quite a sizeable portion of our season. If Sale got in to the play-offs and had to arrange a game at short notice at the whim of Sky TV (and therefore potentially a Sunday), who do you think will get priority on using the ground?

I see your point but when are the televised games for Union ? Will they cross when we play? Have Centurions made sure we are not effected by any of this? Quins and Leeds do it so surely we can get along and work together. Better than the option of no significant money coming in with what Centurions put in.
Positives could be a shop maybe opening again where it would possibly be more worthwhile sharing etc. Maybe fans of Sale watching odd Leigh game, just like it maybe other way round. Had Sale been owning the ground then yeah we should be worried then but genuinely can't see a major problem, apart from working with each other on fixture changes if they happen.

I am with Matt on this especially after a conversation I had last year with some Stockport County fans.

We do not want these cuckoos in our nest.

Have you seen the cost of going to watch Sale, they will have to do some special offers to get most RL fans to go and see why League is a much better game.