Volunteers should be foot soldiers not strategy makers,and form a vital role in a pt club if managed and directed.
Alan and Fred I feel what you do is at a different level

Then it would still be invaluable after you've done on twitter to listen to the match that could include player / coach interviews and such .

So because you live in Hull the people who have paid through the gate don't get to hear , am I right ? , I can really see how that would work .

Surprise surprise - I agree! (about the role of volunteers, that is)

Unfortunately we have a few Ex Leigh fans who for whatever reason, have decided they don't want to support the club any more, and rather than just leaving the rest of us to it, they sit at their desk, bitching and sniping at everything the club try to do. We will never get them back, they've already decided that, so nothing anyone can say or do will bring them back. The really sad news is that they're just waiting for the opportunity for the club to fail so they can say "I told you so" because that's more important to them than a successful Leigh club.

These few people do more harm to our club than the hundreds who just decide to stay away and say nowt.

Quote ="tiswallace"It's only for home games , and seeing that some people don't need much of an excuse not to go to the game , is providing them with live internet commentary of the game doing the club more of a disservice than a good service ? . Wouldn't it suit both parties better to have delayed broadcasting of the games ? , better for Leigh life as the people who actually went to the match could listen to it and the non attendees could still listen albeit a few hours after the final whistle , and just maybe they may turn up and actually pay to get in which would benefit the Centurions ? . I can recommend Dave & Derek's unbiased commentary and views on the match . I don't listen to the game over the internet if I haven't gone to the game and wouldn't listen even to a delayed replay for purely reasons of my own but I'd rate D & D much higher than them teats Eddie & Stevo .'" Like Ganson's Optician I've never met anyone who would rather stay at home and listen to a game on the radio either and most of our listeners are from out of the area anyway. (We can check exactly where our listeners are listening in from). As for a delayed feed, well that kind of defeats the object doesn't it? But for the record the match commentary can be listened to again whenever you like. www.leighlife.com/index.php?page ... xandtables Just click on the relevant match and click on Listen. (Everyone that is apart from Tiswallace as he's banned yet again from Leighlife.)

Quote ="tiswallace"It's only for home games , and seeing that some people don't need much of an excuse not to go to the game , is providing them with live internet commentary of the game doing the club more of a disservice than a good service ? . Wouldn't it suit both parties better to have delayed broadcasting of the games ? , better for Leigh life as the people who actually went to the match could listen to it and the non attendees could still listen albeit a few hours after the final whistle , and just maybe they may turn up and actually pay to get in which would benefit the Centurions ? . I can recommend Dave & Derek's unbiased commentary and views on the match . I don't listen to the game over the internet if I haven't gone to the game and wouldn't listen even to a delayed replay for purely reasons of my own but I'd rate D & D much higher than them teats Eddie & Stevo .'" Like Ganson's Optician I've never met anyone who would rather stay at home and listen to a game on the radio either and most of our listeners are from out of the area anyway. (We can check exactly where our listeners are listening in from). As for a delayed feed, well that kind of defeats the object doesn't it? But for the record the match commentary can be listened to again whenever you like. www.leighlife.com/index.php?page ... xandtables Just click on the relevant match and click on Listen. (Everyone that is apart from Tiswallace as he's banned yet again from Leighlife.)

Not quite Mish my little sugar plum fairy

I don't need to log into LL to listen to the radio and have only listened to one of the fans forums ever and none of the matches .

But there are so many bludgers looking for any excuse not to go to the match then delaying the commentary may serve a purpose and get the odd few through the gate .

Now because I knew you would die wondering why I have always chosen not to listen to the commentary it's simple dear ...... I get the DVD's off Fred every week and have done for years and it's the same commentary and I prefer to watch the HD pictures that go with it





And whilst your trying to be nasty is there any chance of you and your family and cockless Pete ever paying into the game in the near future ? that'll be an odd couple through the gate wouldn't it

Me and my family? None of my family go to watch Leigh. My Dad goes rarely but pays to sit in the North Stand like everyone else - or are you telling me I have family I know nothing about? (Unless you expect Johnny to pay for the privilege of working there - or even Olwyn on reception - maybe you think she should pay for the privilege too?)

As for paying to go in. When I go to[i watch [/ia game I always pay to go in but seeing as I'm there broadcasting I'm not sure I want to pay for the privilege of humping half a ton of stuff over to the East Stand where there are no toilet facilities.

I have never asked for a free pass, I was just given one like the rest of the media team - I suppose you think Fred and Dave should pay for this privilege too?

That's a gem.

Oh dear I wondered how long it would be before you popped your little head up. Grow up, you silly man.

I haven't just popped up, I have been here quite some time. Despite the dire straits the club is in I find your contributions to be very entertaining and true to form. Once a control freak always a control freak.

Such a control freak that I allowed Tiswallace to post a personal attack without removing it or using my 'control freak' powers as a mod to ban him for breaking the AUP?

Like I said grow up.

Right Michelle I'll put my barleys up and put my knives down a minute and explain what I'm trying to say again ........

Many people on here wait for any excuse not to go to the match and now they've got a multitude of excuses with the Wigan " arrangement " they've got another bolloxed reason for not going

so why provide them access to the match ? , if they can't be bothered to put their hands in their pockets and freeze their nuts off for an hour and half then why give them access to the live match ?

Don't forget I've been on leigh life when the match is on and I haven't noticed much more than 15 logged in and even then they may not be listebing so why give the bludgers access to the match ?

Oh and it's true the reason I've never listened to your radio commentary



Fred gets a media pass because he's the clubs official video man , and before he goes home he has to produce copies for the Ref , The Match Commisioner , Paul Rowley and of course ME



All you and cockless are doing is promoting your own site so why don't you show willing and that you beLEIGHve and pay your way and tip your 18 quid each in to the clubs coffers ?

Why aren't you broadcating the Swinton match at the LSV if you have a media pass , because I'm sure Fred and Dave will be there doing there stuff ? ....... I'll tell you why the reason is that Swinton wont wear freeloaders and you and cockless would have to pay to get in







And you would be knackeed lugging a lap top and a few leads over to the toiletless East stand when the video crew were in the West stand for the last couple of weeks ..... see you should watch the DVD's and you'll know where the camera is

This is a prime example of what happens when people only know half-truths, so I'll attempt once again to put you in the know.

The majority of our listeners are not from Leigh.

Unless you have access to our database you wouldn't know how many are listening.

Fred is the official video man true, but what about Dave? He's providing a service just like we are and I note he wasn't even mentioned (also we provide him with a wider audience for his fantastic commentary).

When the club looked like it was going belly up last year, Trevor called us in and asked us if we could do anything to help promote the club and help it to reach a wider audience.

The only time Leighlife is mentioned on the radio is when Dave introduces himself at the start of the match.

We aren't doing the Swinton game because we're going out for the day - and last year, regardless of whether we paid or not Swinton would not allow us to broadcast which of course you know but just want to cause a bit of trouble.

Last week was the only time this season we've broadcast from the West Stand.This was Fred's decision because of Premiers Sports taking up all the room in the East Stand (well where all the power outlets and internet connections are).

See you should watch the DVD's then you'd know where we're filming from.

Anything else?

BTW if you write that word again it'll be the last word you write on here.

I think anything that promotes the club is a great thing, the radio (and forthcoming TV) especially as it takes the club to a wider audience, and has the potential to attract supporters near and far.

As I have said previously I only wish the radio was available somehow on the actual ‘radio’ as well as www, but I also understand why that isn’t the case at this moment in time.

When I set up at the ground, the first thing I do is go to all the RL Twitter pages and tweet that we're live at the LSV ready to broadcast the Leigh v (Whoever) game. I then provide the link for them to listen to. We get the majority of our listeners this way and the chances are that most of them are neither Leigh nor our oppositions fans, just RL fans who have nothing else on on that day.

I have yet to come across one person who says they don't go to the game because they'd rather listen to the radio instead.

Mish I’m not sure who that’s aimed at? And I truly admire you loyalty, ignore/blame the ex-fans as much as you like, but when people like Harold, Matt, Jenky, even Frank all express concern at the direction the clubs going in, then its not the few ex-fans making noises they should be worried about.

With several threads and umpteen pages on each thread has there been anyone who has actually said anything along the lines of “You know what this Partnership is a cracking idea?”

None of the above were the people I was referring to. Of course it's vitally important that the BOD listen to the fans concerns but I don't blame them for not responding to what is becoming a witch hunt by certain members of this board.

I, like most other people am unsure whether this will turn out to be a good solution to the problems our club is facing, but I'm willing to wait and see.

I think the BOD and the CEO have tried their best to explain the reasons behind it but when people just take out the bits they don't like and use it as a stick the beat the club with, I guess they just cant win but to be honest, if the club hadn't made an announcement about it, I don't think anyone would even have noticed any difference.

I guess that just proves that trying to be open and honest doesn't always work.

As I put on the other thread….Are we not having any dual registered players in this partnership? Do you think we wouldn’t notice them?



"There is no presence of American infidels in the city of Baghdad,"

Have we had DR players in the last two years.....yes or no?

Last two years rules stated you could have three from any one club (wire in our case) and no more than 4 in total.

RFL bye laws would now appear to state to have DR players you must have an official partnership agreement signed by both parties. Thus only loan players are available to clubs who have no agreement. Loan rules state initial loan has to be forno less than one month. Result is loans are more difficult to get.

Memorandum of agreement signed by big four stated how they felt DR system should work not that it shouldn't exist.

For summary fro Paul Rowley see the reporter article on our Easter program.

Yes we have had DR players before, but they were the same ones, just like having 3 or 4 on loan, like we seem to have done for the last 100 yrs or so, this isn’t the same its 4 from any 20, a quarter of our team could be different players each week.

Anyone any idea what team Swinton will be putting out Friday? No it depends on who Smith sends them?

Anyone any idea what team Leigh will be putting out on Friday? No it depends on who Wane sends us.

With respect Glow the last line of your post is silly and I am sure deep down you know it. Tell you what when I get home after our game on Friday I will post our team on here just for you.

Agreed what about Monday’s



All I’m trying to say is we could end up with different players each week in our starting line up, and I don’t think that will do us or even them much good.

Emmitt and the like seemed to enjoy their time with us, we wont build a relationship if we are chopping and changing every week, if this isn’t going to be the case then why not just take 4 on loan?

Glow, it may have seemed like they were be the same 3/4 DR's. In 2011 we used 5, but last season we actually used [size=1509[/size D/R's in our first team. That surprised me, when I checked back! I bet we don't use that many this season, let alone the 21 others are forecasting.

How many games each did they each play?

The likes of Shaw and Russell who only played a couple of times, didn't last long for whatever reason and IIRC didn't perform too well either.

I think it's just the worry that although the club say they won't do this, this and this but when it comes to important games or game where injuries have taken their toll will they stick by what they've said?

Realistically there should be no need for any more than 4 Wigan players for Leigh to use this season. And by 4 I mean the same 4 over and over. For example Leigh's 23 man sqaud + U20s + Wigan's Spencer, Lloyd, Manfredi and Greenwood/Burke.*

That is how it should be run and no one would have an issue it I shouldn't think.

*Or anyone other 3 U23 Wigan players.

Think it was something like: Brierley 27; Spencer 18; Laithwaite 13; Nash 7; Shaw 3, Leuluai, Mendeika, Russell 2, and Burke 1 - give or take 1, or 2.

I think what you suggest is fine in principle. The more you use the more you could damage team spirit. However, to restrict it to 4 named players may prove unworkable, if they get injured, or become first team regulars - Burke, for example, seems to be getting a good bit of first team action, at the moment.

However, I reckon Paul would aim to see it restricted too.