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| Quote ="FredParky"Coronation St.
well it is in my house I tape it
why do we (well I) still say 'tape it' ive not taped 'owt for years but its a budder writing 'hard disced it'
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no need to........
its repeated on itv2 later in the evening
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| ....or even wait for the omnibus edition 12.15 till 2.25 this Sunday
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| Quote ="Starbug"Offers on individual ' low interest ' matches is not the way forward
What is required is for our new ' community ' stadium management or the club to find a sponsor for the east stand to become the ' community stand '
They need to find enough funding to have the stand open for every match with costs covered
Then work out a way to get as many people from the borough into it without upsetting the fans willing to pay to see the team play
Once again communication is the key to this'"
I agree but it’s going to be difficult to find a major sponsor and for that reason it perhaps needs considering doing it in smaller sections (100/200 seats?) perhaps each school could be given its own section and could raise the funding? I know they have their own issues, and under 11’s go free so the sponsorship may only be necessary for accompanying adults.
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| Quote ="TV BOY"Not having Sky. What is on after the SL game on friday.'"
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| Quote ="WOLRAB"
friday night game, marketing genius at its best, alianate the young fans, those who work late, those away fans battling the m62, those people who would prefer to stay in and watch the sky game, yes go on then friday nights it is, excuse the sarcasm.'"
That'll be why half the SL clubs do it then. Not content with their little cartel they also want to alienate their fans.
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| Quote ="glow"I agree but it’s going to be difficult to find a major sponsor and for that reason it perhaps needs considering doing it in smaller sections (100/200 seats?) perhaps each school could be given its own section and could raise the funding? I know they have their own issues, and under 11’s go free so the sponsorship may only be necessary for accompanying adults.'"
In bold above is something starbug is passionate about, but in these times to ask schools to pay or find fuding (whilst not a bad idea and the question could only be asked) is perhaps a step too far, maybe something the new executive we get on board could 'look at' but he/se will have a mammoth task to complete the tasks that have been outlined for the post.
Its an unfortunate fact but nmost if not all companies have cut back on their sponsorsip budgets and I would hazard a guess due to the financial year starting next month those budgets will or may be 'spent', maybe someone who deals with that side of a companies business could enlighten us on that 'score'?
At the end of the day it all boils down to cost and at this moment in time the LSV seem unbending in their views on what is a reasonable cost to open another stand.
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| The community department do a great job going into schools, if the club could somehow build on that, and encourage the schools to support them in return.
May be little Billy at St Joe’s his Dad owns a small company, and although he can’t throw thousands of pounds away, perhaps he would consider a couple of hundred or so, for a bit of free advertising.
Have a Centurions Community Match (Thursday night TV game)
St Joes has 100 seats
50 free kids
50 parents pay £5 - tickets sold through school.
Billy’s Dad sponsors St Joes for say £300
There’s a school competition who can screen/shout the loudest, its now the turn of St Joes sponsored by Bill’s Dad Company, he’s also listed in the programme.
I know that only works out at £11 per parent but I wouldn’t want to be in that stand with all them screening kids nor filming above them.
It doesn’t need to be just schools it could be organisations. Leigh East/ Miners, Apple dance centre, etc I suggested to Hannah and Ryan a Centurion Girls section we need to work with the community.
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| the more the merrier glow that atmosphere at the Wigan game was fantastic even up onthe gantry but since its like being on the moon.
But one thing about NRC attendances most if not all clubs figures are down in this compettion probably because its not been branded until lately as a proper competition, dont get me wrong its not perfect but when it is watch out as the SL teams will nick it
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| Quote ="FredParky"the more the merrier glow that atmosphere at the Wigan game was fantastic even up onthe gantry but since its like being on the moon.
But one thing about NRC attendances most if not all clubs figures are down in this compettion probably because its not been branded until lately as a proper competition, dont get me wrong its not perfect but when it is watch out as the SL teams will nick it'"
I totally agree, and although we need to target a game to get people there as Starbug said we then need to build on that so they don't just become individual offers for low interest matches.
Get them there, give them a good time and hopefully they'll want to return regularly.
Doesn't LSV have a marketing person? Be interesting to know what his/her plans are to get bums on seats, or are they only interested in selling the 3g at top rates?
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| I do believe they do have a marketing person but wouldn't think that would be in his/her remit to put bums on seats for Leigh Centurions, would it?
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| The club have advertised for someone to put bums on seats haven't they?
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| Quote ="FredParky"I do believe they do have a marketing person but wouldn't think that would be in his/her remit to put bums on seats for Leigh Centurions, would it?'"
I’m not to sure but isn't it in his/her interest to help fill the place also.
Some people who attend may decide to hold a conference/function there, open a shop there if its seen as busy, who sells the pitch side/ screen adverts?
Wouldn't it put LSV in a better position with regards to selling the next round of food/drink outlets etc if the place was full?
A thriving Leigh Centurions is surely good for LSV Co.
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| targeting schools is essentaial but i think the priority is entising the 700 senior fans we appear to have lost in the last 4 years.
i cant produce any figures to back this up but i remember a crowd for any game which was less than 2000 was a shock a short time ago.
i was told dewsbury have sold as many season tickets as us this year due to a much reduced offer.
i still think we need to be much bolder next year we we set prices for season tickets and admission.
we need to get these lost fans back and at the same time attract new ones. i cant think of any inducement other than financial.
i have close friends who no longer go not because they have fell out with the game but they say its not worth the money.
apologises because i have banged on about this before but our crowds do concern me
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| Quote ="RealCherry&Whites"The club have advertised for someone to put bums on seats haven't they?'"
No their remit is to bring in 'new money' I think its part of the 'loadsamoney' policy the rfl have introduced for Coop clubs (well thats how I read it anyway) an impossible task these days one would think?
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| Quote ="FredParky"No their remit is to bring in 'new money' I think its part of the 'loadsamoney' policy the rfl have introduced for Coop clubs (well thats how I read it anyway) an impossible task these days one would think?'"
Almost impossible task in today's current financial climate.
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| My only comment towards that would be that radio and television continue to do so in the current climate. I am aware that both of these are much sronger media outlets however, it shows it is still possible.
Still think it is a thankless task and rather challenging to say the least. I wonder if they are on a % ?
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| As much as I enjoy my Sunday fix, it would have been hard to convince most stop-a-wommers that £16 was value for money to sit in the West Stand on Sunday.
They'd want it for a tenner or less which is a non starter because after minimum rent, VAT etc, we would have to double the gate for it to be a success.
Personally I dont think there are 4000 folk in the town who would watch NL rugby week in week out even if it was £8 to get in.
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| Quote ="FredParky"the more the merrier glow that atmosphere at the Wigan game was fantastic even up onthe gantry but since its like being on the moon.
But one thing about NRC attendances most if not all clubs figures are down in this compettion probably because its not been branded until lately as a proper competition, dont get me wrong its not perfect but when it is watch out as the SL teams will nick it'"
No chance, our poor internationals and SL coaches are already bleating about playing too much rugby. (although our internationals didn't actually seem to play much!) They are after a season from September to October! (but no reduction in salary obviously!)
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| Quote ="Alexs Dad"As much as I enjoy my Sunday fix, it would have been hard to convince most stop-a-wommers that £16 was value for money to sit in the West Stand on Sunday.
They'd want it for a tenner or less which is a non starter because after minimum rent, VAT etc, we would have to double the gate for it to be a success.
Personally I dont think there are 4000 folk in the town who would watch NL rugby week in week out even if it was £8 to get in.[/quote
Week in week out we wouldn't get that many if it was free
But the East stand holds approximately 3,000 people
Times that by 15 matches gives 45,000 empty seats per season that could be given away free if the correct structure was in place
No point trying to get another 100 here or 50 there , lets try to get every single person between the ages of 4-75 in the borough into the stadium just once per season
The W1g4n and Leigh Community stand at the LSV Community stadium built for the Community of Leigh for the use of the Community of Leigh for the benifit of the Leigh Community sponsored and paid for by the Community Of Leigh via the W1g4n and Leigh council
But do they [ the council have the foresight , the vision , the passion , the Community spirit to do it ?
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| Lobby (no carrotts) your local councillor and their opponents as its election time soon (I know they all dont stand) but if we can get a candidate in who will make it their business, hows about an independant LISA backed councillor to stand in one of the wards this year, Councillor Starbug sounds ok to me, come on Steve I'll be your campaign manager.
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| Quote ="FredParky":303lki8pLobby (no carrotts) your local councillor and their opponents as its election time soon (I know they all dont stand) but if we can get a candidate in who will make it their business, hows about an independant LISA backed councillor to stand in one of the wards this year,:303lki8p Councillor Starbug :303lki8psounds ok to me, come on Steve I'll be your campaign manager.'" :303lki8p
Does it pay ?
Seriously this is how I see it
Is the stadium a council facility ?
Did the council pay for it ?
If they didn't why are they running it ?
If they are running it , why are they running it and for whose benifit are they running it ?
Once again is it a council facility ?
Are Haigh Hall country park and Pennington Flash country park council facilities ?
Do you have to pay to access them ?
If you dont have to pay to access council facilities then surely the stadium at the LSV should also be able to be accessed freely by the people [ council tax payers of the borough ?
They cannot have it both ways
It is either a privately run business for profit [ albeit still council owned although not paid for by the council
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| Starbug, me thinks you talk too much sense to be a councillor or a politician - on the other hand I would certainly vote for you when normally I cannot be bothered
THE STARBUG RL INDEPENDANT PARTY (has a good ring to it)
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I feel a political future could be on the horizon
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| Quote ="david12"You are right, you are talking enough :3qyybklfpoop:3qyybklf to be a :3qyybklfpolitician.[/
Funny you should mention that
Just for the record David , what is your suggestion to move our club forward ?
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