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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"As a neutral I honestly didnt think the spear tackle was as bad as people are making out. Anyone who has played the game will know its simply one of them times where another players momentum ends up making the tackle look really bad, you can tell from the players reactions that it looked worse than it was in fact its almost a text book tackle the way the Sheffield player starts the tackle. Its bad and deserved something, maybe 10 minutes would have been right but there certainly does not seem to be an intent to injure in the tackle.
Did McNally really end up in hospital after that tackle? Its late and high but Ive watched it about 10 times and theres no swing and looks like a flat hand. Maybe he falls awkwardly or something.'"
Haha! Good effort, GFB. I'll give you 6/10 for that provocation attempt. Quite subtle.
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| Either way GFB the spear tackle is illegal,and thats a stiff arm any day of the week.The only time you see a flat hand is after the incident.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"May not have been intent to injure the player, but still deserved a red card for the spear tackle and at least a yellow for the high shot.'"
Undecided about the red for the spear, certainly a yellow and totally agree with regards the late tackle. Although again not as bad as some are making out I think thats possibly more a sending off than the spear tackle.
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| Quote ="ant7t2"Haha! Good effort, GFB. I'll give you 6/10 for that provocation attempt. Quite subtle.'"
If I were trolling I wouldnt have bothered watching the video numerous times. Just my honest opinion that is all.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"If I were trolling I wouldnt have bothered watching the video numerous times. Just my honest opinion that is all.'" So GFB if it had happened to one of your players you wouldn't have been shouting from the roof tops about it or if one of our players had done it. Again please give your honest opinion.
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| Quote ="ian c"So GFB if it had happened to one of your players you wouldn't have been shouting from the roof tops about it or if one of our players had done it.?'"
I would be going mad at the time but in the cold light of day with all the evidence there for all to see I wouldnt still be making it out like they were the two worst tackles I have ever seen.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"I would be going mad at the time but in the cold light of day with all the evidence there for all to see I wouldnt still be making it out like they were the two worst tackles I have ever seen.'" So if it had happened to one of your player by a Leigh player you wouldn't be on here today complaining about it, again be honest.
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| Having watched it umpteen times I don't think it was a spear tackle, yes he was rolled over but landed on his back. Red a bit harsh for me.
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| Quote ="ian c"So if it had happened to one of your player by a Leigh player you wouldn't be on here today complaining about it, again be honest.'"
If you take my first post on the matter and take out the neutral part of it I would hope that I would say the same. I try to call it as I see it. Back to the spear tackle going back a few years its almost inches away from what people would be calling a textbook tackle, straight on his back and it would have been fine but these days its obviously illegal.
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| Quote ="reffy"Having watched it umpteen times I don't think it was a spear tackle, yes he was rolled over but landed on his back. Red a bit harsh for me.'"
Player reactions are often a good indicator and I think the reactions of most of the players even when the lad is walking off say it all really.
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| I don't think the spear tackle was a red card. However the late high tackle on McNally was. 1-1
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| Yes, Higson patting him on the shoulder is a good indicator as if saying, "Unlucky mate".
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"If you take my first post on the matter and take out the neutral part of it I would hope that I would say the same. I try to call it as I see it. Back to the spear tackle going back a few years its almost inches away from what people would be calling a textbook tackle, straight on his back and it would have been fine but these days its obviously illegal.'" OK mate no worries that's your opinion and I respect that.
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| Ball had long since gone in the "spear".
Ridiculous "tackle"
It'll be interesting to hear what Aston senior says.
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| On the day I said no but seeing it back he should have gone. The fool stood over Greg and said something and was laughing when he was passing the red. Wasn't interested in the slightest if he'd hurt Greg or not. Stupid idiot and deserves his ban.
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| Quote ="ant7t2"Ball had long since gone in the "spear".
Ridiculous "tackle"
It'll be interesting to hear what Aston senior says.'"
Do you think the player knew the ball had gone? I actually think that plays a part in the tackle, the culprit has his head in the guys hip ready to effect the tackle so i doubt he even knows the ball has gone given where he is looking but the Leigh player gives up in the tackle once he has dropped the ball which probably makes the tackle a lot easier for the defender to make and he clearly over does it. You never know with the disciplinary these days though and it could be a 6 game ban.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"I don't think the spear tackle was a red card. However the late high tackle on McNally was. 1-1'"
Totally agree....
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| In terms of the incidents, if the video shows the first high shot on McNally to be as bad as it looked from the terrace the Sheffield lad will be heading to Red hall
Think the red for the second hit on McNally was correct but would say sending off sufficient, it wasn't a good tackle the player needs chatting to for him to improve his technique.
The 3rd attack on McNally will be the one that deserves some action, stop the video at 5.15 / 6:19 and it pretty much shows what just about everyone in the LSV saw yesterday.
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| Quote ="mapleyther"I don't think the spear tackle was a red card. However the late high tackle on McNally was. 1-1'"
If that spear tackle isn't a red card, then I don't know what is.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"If that spear tackle isn't a red card, then I don't know what is.'"
Exactly.
I wonder if people would have a different opinion if [ithey[/i, themselves, had been on the receiving end of a "tackle" like that...
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| Quote ="ant7t2"Exactly.
I wonder if people would have a different opinion if [ithey[/i, themselves, had been on the receiving end of a "tackle" like that...'"
My opinion is the same as what I said before, thats speaking as someone who has been on both sides of that situation.
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| It wasn't a spear tackle, he was lifted and rolled over onto his back it didn't look great but a spear tackle involves lifting the player vertically and his head being the first contact with the floor, neither happened.
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| Spear tackle or not ,it's still an offence to lift a player whereby his legs go higher than his waist ,which in this case happened , making the Refs decision of a Red card the correct one.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Spear tackle or not ,it's still an offence to lift a player whereby his legs go higher than his waist ,which in this case happened , making the Refs decision of a Red card the correct one.'"
Ian, I agree with you on this one. Also did you see stringer patting his players after that incident?
That was close to being very very serious, and the red card was the right decision. I hope the disciplinary sends out a strong message that these kind of tackles are dangerous and will not be tolerated.
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| The whistle had gone for a Sheffield penalty about 2/3 seconds before and Aston continued after the whistle with a deliberate tip tackle. Because the whistle had gone the original penalty stood. IMO Aston was attempting to cause injury and deserves his red.
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