I'm not interested in the penalty count at all really, we've had stokes before, we know what he's like and we gave him the excuses he needed. The annoying thing for me was when we were 14 12 up, and he disallowed the gardner try, fev fans, fax fans, leigh fans, whoever, must have been able to see that it went backwards by a good way. That decision changed the game massively, and the penalty for not playing the ball?! please, it's 2012, the ball hasn't been played for ten years. The technical pens, fair enough some were a bit harsh , but as i said, we gave that clown the excuse to blow his whistle. More guile needed...again.

Well I don't buy into that theory Derek.

Like I said refs have good and bad games. Stokes had a poor one (for us)last night. The consequence of all those penalties we conceded in the last hour of the game was that we had to do so much tackling it took it's toll on our players and it is a lot easier to win a game if you have the majority of the ball.

Next week assuming Henderson is banned we have Nico back as hooker and Beswick to loose forward.

Should any player have taken a bad knock last night we only have 1 player (Deano) to call upon as a replacement.

Well here's hoping we do the business next week.

Neutrals who watched the game however seemed to have reached a concensus that the bounce of the ball went Fev's way last night. That's not made up it is true but it doesn't of course alter the result even if it makes some of us feel better.

There was nowt strange about it Derek. It was an inept ill disciplined Leigh performance. You shouldn't (but will) blame the ref for that one. Have an objective look at the players performances that day. Batley's outside four murdered a Leigh team who tired because they were a scratch side down to the bare bones, containing injured players who tired because they wouldn't normally have played. Thus they conceded penalties. Come on Derek, show just a smidgin of objectivity!!

Bloody hell Francis, that's almost a good post!!!

RFF thank you for your opinion, we all have them. Mine is you are talking garbage and that the definition of bent is allowing one team to get away with that the other gets penalised for - hence he was bent.
He seemed to be got at last night, Powell is a smart lad who knows how to push boundries and is well liked in the right places.
I will also question your sanity after complimenting Franks post

Fair play Mo, we all have opinions. Mine are there. We don't have to agree.
I think your talking cobblers but c'est la vie. I do sincerely hope Leigh get to the final.
I think the score flattered us and I think you were unlucky with one or two crucial decisions at critical times in the game - as I've stated above.
But I don't believe, nor do I have any evidence that any ref is bent - or have been got at.
Coaches will whinge - and do, players will make errors and conceed penalties - and refs will have sh it games. That might make them a sh it referee, it doesn't make em bent.

We disagree. C'est la vie. Not the fall of Rome is it??

Tho yes, I agree with your comments here. My references to franks post are wholly misplaced. I apologise unreservedly!

Was just pointing out a fact RFF. Still sounds Luke he might be a SL ref down like a certain Mr Child's before him.

Bloody phone.........SL ref soon...........not down

It isn't and the day we fans cannot passionately disagree is the day to pack it in, although opinions of Frank will always find common ground

If Stokes and Smith had wiped two tries out for Fev like the ones we had chalked off, there would have been a riot and I couldn't really have blamed the Fev fans. 16-7 penalty count and two cracking tries ruled out. Say no more. Yep. I think the ref handled it in a fair manner (not).

Mr Stolkes is a friend of a friend of mine & the RFL are backing him wholly making him full time & he'll be moving to Leeds so hopefully Georgie boy will be bugg3ring off to SL more perminately soon enough

Youv fek all to worry about then have you son, get a decent unbiased ref and youl walk the final

I would say 3 tries disallowed. Littlers interception being the other - he was onside at the play the ball and he would have had a clear run to the line.
Is it OK to get up from every tackle by placing your hands on the tackled player and pushing yourself up (therefore not allowing a quick play the ball)?
No one can say what the final score would have been had we been allowed those tries - our lads didn't tire - the ref knocked the stuffing out of them.

Thaz talking utter shiiiiiite matey, watch the game, i have twice, there was 1 decision that went against you that was petty and 1 only, that was the play the ball 1. That was a terrible decision there was loads of times he could of pulled players up for that 1. Both trys wernt trys simple as, you were giving penalties away because your players were shagged out on there feet. Your team played well for 65/70 mins the game lasts 80 thats why you lost sod all to do with the ref

They wernt trys though were they

What about the by hendo on briggs,def trt had that not happend , if and buts ! You were beaten by a better side over 80 minutes.

Starting to sound a bit sore now !

YES they were tries - just not awarded by the incompetant fools in charge.

Cheers Glow.

Have a look in the league express Monday

Those who are saying we had three tries wiped off, I know where you are coming from, but whilst we could well have scored when Littler ran away, we didn't see us put the ball down. On the other two tries ruled out, we did actually see us put it down. No ifs and buts. In a game in which one side only got four tries(awarded) and the other three (awarded), these were obviously HUGE calls.

We have to get there first, and we need a few of your pack absent as well to walk it. Fev play a gameplan and they get away with it, you also have great playmakers and a deep squad. Last night will have hurt us and if the Fax v Sheff game is soft then we will struggle to recover fully.
Now fek off sonny and enjoy your week and half of planning to the GF.

Are you like 12 years old ? It gets better.

Mental age.

We can all talk about the ref all day, Fev fans will say the decisions were right we will say they were wrong, not seen it on TV myself but as we were going home in the car a friend of ours who's a Widnes fan text Frank and said the ref was leaning heavily towards Fev, he also said doesn't seem like he likes Leigh. Also i believe people who Have watched on TV said the pundits on there said they could not see owt wrong with the disallowed trys.

Now we all need to move on, i personally enjoyed last night and again met some fev fans who i now class as good mate's, hope we meet up with Fev in the final, we need to do the business on Thursday though first.