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| Quote ="Alexs Dad"Not sure about that mate, looked to me like he'd hit the ground but the tackle wasn't completed as Higson (was it?) had only managed to clip him rather than tackle him.'"
Need to see it again, but I felt your guy (yes, think it was Higson), still had hold when Worrincy hit the ground. If you have hold, however loose, and the ball-carrier's arm (the one holding the ball) hits the ground then the tackle's complete. No?
Still a cheap shot by Nanyn though!
Btw, I was screaming at the Fax players (not that they could hear) to bend their backs and tackle properly!! There were plenty of high(ish) tackles from both sides - poor tackling technique (usually going for the "big hit"icon_wink.gif.
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| Bit o/t, but look at my last two posts. Apparently I've had 100 posts now on this forum... TWICE!!
How does that one work!!
Got it now - it goes up on all my posts, not just the last one!!
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| May well have been Matt. To me it looked like one of those 'is he, isn't he' situations, and I'd be expecting the ref to call it one way or another immediatly.
He may have done, and Nanyn played the game, in which case he deserved 10.
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| Quote ="HXSparky"Need to see it again, but I felt your guy (yes, think it was Higson), still had hold when Worrincy hit the ground. If you have hold, however loose, and the ball-carrier's arm (the one holding the ball) hits the ground then the tackle's complete. No?
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That what I meant mate, it looked to me like Worrincy had come 'through' the tackle and then hit the ground (definate arms on ground) but without Higson having hold of him. Happened so quick though....
Thinking about it, Nanyn would have got to the half time pies a few mins before the rest of the team so aye - on the balance of probability
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| things come things go but the third by Worincy definately was a knock on.
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| Quote ="FredParky"things come things go but the third by Worincy definately was a knock on.'"
Did you get a zoom on it? I was undecided at the time - thought it might have been a case of him just about managing to recover the ball before it hit the deck.
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| Quote ="Leyther_Matt"Did you get a zoom on it? I was undecided at the time - thought it might have been a case of him just about managing to recover the ball before it hit the deck.'"
Like I say, a definite fumble, but did it hit the ground. The TJ was very close...
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| tightish zoon definately a knock on but hey swings and roundabouts you win some you lose some thats life.
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| Quote ="wereutherein1987?"blame the ref all you want;
You had more ball and simply ran out if ideas.
Any class players on your team would have ripped us apart but guess what you haven't got ANY.
We took our chances, Shad's 1st try you didn't even get a finger on him CLASS.
Blame the ref and your being ignorant about your own teams short comings, face it you have a team that can't score!'"
What the hells going on
Normally you post complete Bollox
I agree with this entire post
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| sorry to be another going on about us coming off worse to bad decisions by the ref and I do realise I am slightly biased, but even the fax fans I talked to at the match today said that they had three tries that either shouldn't have been given (the offside one they actually made the sign for going to the video ref because they saw it as offside to) or the try come after a bad decision!
Sorry but it really angers me that matches turn on such bad decisions by the officials!
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| I was sat right in front of Worrincy and he definitely knocked it on before picking it back up and scoring.
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| Another part of the big conspiracy
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| Quote ="Blueboy"The ref saw nothing wrong with Said's challenge because there wasn't anything wrong with it. The linesman only came on because he felt he had to when you lot started moaning. Maden and Alstead only were niggling all game at Paterson and Goddard and had little interest in playing rugby.'"
said tamehearts attack to the head was a sending off offence as not only was it high, but there was clear intent to hit the playing with a swinging arm.
the ref today murdered leigh and they did well to get a bonus point with him in charge
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| REF what REF he was a CLOWN
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| Having had a night to calm down, I honestly think that we are not getting the 'rub of the green', these last couple of games. But, there is no way that we can say officials are biased. Yes, they do make mistakes, as an earlier 'Fax poster has identified, and those mistakes of the last two games have been really magnified, in our current situation.
However, as someone else has pointed out - you tend to make your own luck. The cruel fact is that we haven't scored enough points, (most of the season) to render the odd reffing blunder of little consequence. We are where we are, because we aren't scoring enough points. Sure, we have 29 league points, but have only scored 379 points at about 20 per game. That's 127 less than Batley and 175 less than Gateshead - our two fellow relegation candidates! As Starbug will tell you, that's not going to win you very many games, in current-day RL!
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| Quote ="itsatry!"There was also 2 forward passess right near me and right in line with the touch judge both times and give neither 1st one was a good foot in front and the 2nd not as bad but they got a crucial try from it. Thought we played well all things considered and if you had offered us a bonus point i would have gladly took it after the 2 previous drubbings from Fax.'"
There were also many forward passes, knock ons, lying on at the play of the ball, high tackles and crossings that went un-noticed.... From both teams. That unfortunately is the nature of the game and we cant really expect the referee to spot everything, some go for you some go against you.
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| Quote ="vikinggriff1979"said tamehearts attack to the head was a sending off offence as not only was it high, but there was clear intent to hit the playing with a swinging arm.
the ref today murdered leigh and they did well to get a bonus point with him in charge'"
Watch it again if you get the chance soft lad.
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| Quote ="leyther forever"Sorry Maurice but it was the most blatant and deliberate attack t the head in the whole match.'"
I presume you are talking about the Said tackle. Well... You need to look at that in perspective. It looked worse than it was because he went in very hard, and yes he swung his arm back to get some power into the tackle and it first hit on the arm, with the ball and went up into his face. I have no issue whatsoever with it being called as a penalty, but that is all it was.
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| Quote ="FredParky"things come things go but the third by Worincy definately was a knock on.'"
In your opinion, from your view. But not from where the officials saw it. Its one of those that would need to be looked at in slow motion to decide. did he gather before it hit the ground, did it hit his foot etc etc etc. I dont know and I was there..
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| Quote ="spanishbob"In your opinion, from your view. But not from where the officials saw it. Its one of those that would need to be looked at in slow motion to decide. did he gather before it hit the ground, did it hit his foot etc etc etc. I dont know and I was there..'"
TBF on that one i was sat near where it happened and it did look a knock on. But it would have been brought back for the first knock on by Leigh and i really couldnt see them holding us out for a set of six on their line at that point in the game.
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| Quote ="spanishbob"In your opinion, from your view. But not from where the officials saw it. Its one of those that would need to be looked at in slow motion to decide. did he gather before it hit the ground, did it hit his foot etc etc etc. I dont know and I was there..'" Hes the cameraman and does the videos you nonce
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| Quote ="Silent- Assassin"Hes the cameraman and does the videos you nonce'"
How does me not knowing he is a camera man make me a nonce, you moron?
Oh how does me not knowing you are a child make you a moron?
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| Quote ="vikinggriff1979"said tamehearts attack to the head was a sending off offence as not only was it high, but there was clear intent to hit the playing with a swinging arm.'"
Absolute nonsense. It was exactly the same as Sonny Bill Williams on Clint Newton and Sam Burgess on Fui Fui Moi Moi. If it was that bad, why did Higson get straight back up and try and play on and none of your 'hard men' run in until after the touch judge came on when he heard your fans moan?
Worrincy's third was scrappy but from where I was sat it looked like Smith's pass was knocked back by a Leigh player then when the Leigh player slid in to gather the ball it slipped from his grasp and Worrincy reaped the rewards. I was sat quite close to it but still not certain.
Gleeson's pass to Royston for the matchwinner was perfect, bob on.
Having said that though we did give away some stupid penalties, with Said being a culprit for a few of them, but it was clear from the word go what your intent was and that wasn't to complete many tackles below the shoulder.
Dave Alstead, what an absolute Jessica, if he spent his energy into playing his rugby instead of playing the 'hardman' walking forward 3 steps after playing the ball to shout or coming in third man for a cheap shot, he'd have been lifting the cup on Saturday.
Still I do hope you stay up, doesn't bear thinking about having Leigh in C1 with a fanbase and stadium like that, especially when you're producing players like Ridyard, Mort and Higson.
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| Quote ="maurice"Was talking about the disallowed try, high shot got all it deserved, a penalty.'" You did'nt get the high shot though ask the player how he felt afterwards and if he thinks it was ok then thats fine by me .
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| Quote ="Haighy"
it was clear from the word go what your intent was and that wasn't to complete many tackles below the shoulder.'"
It's often the last thing Paul Rowley says when the players go out.
'Hit them round the head as much as we can and give as many penatlies away as possible. You know it makes sense lads'
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