But even at Featherstone we were clueless in attack, and as for half back well it just showed when with the introduction of Durbin it allowed Watson more time to be creative and to take on the line more, we need a stand off and at least one centre FAST this would allow AJ to go back to th forwards where he is far more accomplished and at home, for me Rourke and JT are both similiar players, Haggerty should be at 13.
The problems being of course have we any more money in the pot to bring in these players?

Collectively a bad day all round, we should not be out enthused by anyone that’s just not acceptable, we aren’t big enough to take teams on down the middle, we have to play smarter, be quicker at PTB, keep turning big teams around and improve our defensive pattern especially on the right.

Mr Kelly has some work to do this week.

I love reading posts were people say how bad sunday was, i ask how many games a season do they go and how long have they been watching?cos if you saw Ian Lucas's team then you'll never call the curren t side! Get real Leigh win a couple of games and then we play sh*te and its the end of the world typical Leythers!

Agree with that Fred, though the comment was in relation to the enthusiasm (or lack of it on Sunday) of the side - the sheer grit and determination, not to mention quality of defence, made up for the poor attacking play at Fev, but very few positives to take from Sunday's performance.

Just because we’ve played worse previously doesn’t make it acceptable, I can accept defeat, but I expect to walk away saying “Oh well at least we tried our best” yesterday I didn’t, did you?

i have been going for 40 years and i am struggling to remember a worse side.

we have got to get some experience and size in that pack .

i just hope the new signings rumours come true

but at the end of the day they are the only team ive got and i will support them no matter what

Love the ian Tempo lucas quote,but surely we are a better side than that team.we need experience in the forwards,and guile in the backs.i was told that Kelly didnt want durbin our chairman signed him,the way he is treated (durbin)makes me think that is the state of play.I would never BOO the mighty Leigh,but its the closest Ive ever been.come on leythers give the lads your support(and i dont mean a surgical one!)

Well I,ve been watching over 50 seasons and I have seen games which really p me off. Ive seen a lot worse than yesterdays performance but I am not happy with yesterday. We can do better but we didn,t. Thats what is so annoying.

Where did i say that i was happy with yesterday???? The problem is once we lose at home in a poor manner all the dolls go out of the pram and its the end of the world Leythers have always been the same probably always will.
Maybe some new blood before the end of the week will brighten everybodys day

LETS HOPE SO!

NK had a history of losing the dressing room at Widnes, he seems to be going along the same lines here.
If the chairman signed Durbin against NK's wishes then he needs to sort that with AT, if he cant see we need a quicker tempo that Durbin provides then I suggest a career change and specsavers.
He seems to have the same problem with Rudd

Heres my 17

Donlan
Alstead/Maden
Higson
Rudd
Mort
Ridyard
Watson
C Hill
McConnell, 15-20 mins
Morrison
Taylor
Armistead
Marsh

Durbin
Meekin/Hobson
Cookson
Reay

I dont care how bad Cooksons been, we need his 10 min spells.
Stewart steals a living, Haggerty is too small as is rourke.

agree with your mort position
if NK is going to play mort then it has to be on the wing where his defence may not cost us. his kicking is probably worth 6 points a game

Should we go back to sub 1000 gates like we had then, can we grab the blazers back and have a Higgins out campaign as well.
Our ambitions are higher, get real.

well Wigan wont be releasing Prescott as O'Carroll has just been diagnosed as out for 10 weeks so that rumour can be quashed.

Cookson is also weeks away from being fit after an ankle injury the other week

Yesterday was poor, real poor.

I can't seem to find one good aspect of our game nearly all were rubbish (Attack, defence, enthusiasm, gameplan and kicking game). However, I think a few people have had knee-jerk reactions saying "I'm not paying £16 for that dross etc." Yes, I accept it was garbage but are you really expecting ANY team to turn up for every game and play Harlem Globetrotter style rugby and win with ease? The best teams can't do it, never mind Leigh with our young side that will develop throughout the course of the season ready for a more realistic challenge next year.

The most worrying statement for me is that we were "out enthused".

Considering a large portion of our team is young guys they should be champing at the bit to impress. I'm sure things will improve but it's a body blow to lost this game at home so early in the season.

Looking at the team NK hasn't got a clue what his best side is and that's worrying at this stage.

I wish people would stop posting its 16 quid for an adult to watch Leigh. It isn,t if folk use the North stand.

I try not to criticise any individual players as they are all much better than I could possibly have dreamed of

And because of that I find it really frustrating when I see good young players playing ' within themselves ' on a RL pitch

We were not out enthused , we just didn't attempt to play RL

We have players who have all been the best of thier generation at thier junior teams , are they not capable of 'playing RL ' as we see it being done every week in the NRL and SL ?

I dont expect it at the same level of finesse,speed and execution as Saints and Leeds , but it is almost as if they lack the confidence to express themselves , or they are being told they are not allowed to

The players we have are not that less skillful than those at Batley and Halifax or even the ones I saw at Sheffield last week

But we seem to be playing a ' grind them down ' type of RL for 60 minutes whereupon we find ourselves chasing matches in the last 20 and having to resort to ' globetrotter ' play to pull the game from the brink

Watch Boots n All on wed and count how many try's involve an offload , at least 40 to 50 % if this week is like the rest

We executed 1 in the 1 st half , why ? because we dont support the player with the ball therefore the defending team dont need to bring in extra players to stop us , this means it is easier to cover out wide

We seem to be scared of actually ' playing ' , so either the players we have cannot , or they are being told not to

Winning games is important , but at this moment ' playing ' is more important than winning

I agree with you Steve. Yesterday dispelled the myth that 'crowds will come back, once the Championship starts.' People want to be entertained, and our current, one-up 'style' doesn't do it for me. Also, it has to be the easiest type of attack, to defend against. Against a poor Skolars side, we were very inventive, but haven't attempted anything 'inventive' since. Even Sheffield were trying things - look at the variety in their re-starts.

I realise that we have many youngsters in the team, a couple of key players are missing, and that not all the experienced guys are performing, but we desperately need a couple of class players - even Batley had that.

NK talked about being 'out-enthused'. Maybe so, but he didn't mention out-classed, out-thought and out-paced - and to me, they all applied yesterday.

Answer... Durbin starting regularly



Easy this coaching game lol

You forgot -out coached - there Alan

but I'll forgive you, you have to share an office with him

Didn't go to the game, but Batley always play well against us.

Mennell and McGilvray are two top players that would walk into any NL1 side.

I take it these 2 ripped us apart again then?

When all are fit, I think it should be -

Mort
Alstead
Donlan
Reay
Stanton
Watson
Durbin
Hobson
McConnell
Hill
Armistead
Higson
Taylor

Smith
Morrison
Meekin
Marsh

Too true they did

Donlan 1 or 6 for me... I don't think he's big enough for a centre. Not something you'd have said 10-15 years ago.

Donlans hasn't got the creative ability in him for a half back, full back is where he's at.

Taylor at loose forget it, Armistead is that, and why Smith? we wont see him again he did the same at Cas, write him off now, Haggarty will be twice the player he is anyway.