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| Quote ="Alan"And of course, we have to share the 'gate' with Wigan, Salford etc. who presumably will not be wanting to turn up for 50% of very little?
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Yeah Likes of Wigan come and bring their first team squads for high profile friendlies for nothing Alan so let's just let everyone in for nowt or a fiver and not even cover cost of opening up the stands
I don't think people understand Alan that we have to pay the Club Staff, Coaching Staff and players contracts all year round not just in season and because we do not own the stadium and get the secondary spend from Bars and Food etc Ticket/ gate receipts are our only real source of income on match days.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Yeah Likes of Wigan come and bring their first team squads for high profile friendlies for nothing Alan so let's just let everyone in for nowt or a fiver and not even cover cost of opening up the stands
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And yet nobody on this thread has suggested any of the above
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Hi Jeff
In response to your post I shall keep it as simplistic as possible:
Working on an average of 1800 last season (which is generous) we trailed grossly reducing the entrance costs against Batley in the NRC cup semi final to a tenner. Doing this effectively means you need to increase your gate by a further 1080 just to break back even. It didn't work we got the same gate. Likewise supporters want to see quality players on the field and to do this we need a budget to attract them. This has been carefully planned out and is work in progress. We have to capitalise on the quality of players we have attracted to the LSV and the opponents we have lined up for them. As much as we would like the whole town to come for free to see the stadium full we have to accept the financial and commercial issues surrounding running the club. In life you get what you pay for and we are charging for the quality we are providing and we believe we have priced that correctly. We cannot please everyone all of the time and we will have courage in our convictions and deal with the consequences if we get it wrong as ultimately as a board we will be covering any financial shortfall should our actions cause one. We appreciate all the feedback and are encouraged by the fact so many of our supporters and opposition are engaging in discussing what Leigh Centurions are doing from whichever perspective they choose.
Many thanks
Andy Mazey'"
Andy
You have in a nutshell explained to people what 90% of fans already know or at least should do. The other 9% and Starbug will never be pleased whatever you guys do and find something to pick at and you should not take it personally as they are sad and bitter individuals who reading some of the nonsense they write honestly make you wonder if they really want to see LC succeed.
Me I'm grateful in the first instance we have a club thanks to you and the others and not just that we have a ambitious club who seem to be going places on and off the paddock!!!
Keep doing what your doing, we've not had a board as strong as this for many many years and not had a Director like yourself who interacts with the species and amateur teams etc since The great Brian Bowman.
All the Best
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| Quote ="Starbug"And yet nobody on this thread has suggested any of the above'"
Not directly Steve but plenty of reference to the way the RLWC was marketed but bottom line is they filled LSV with cheap/ free tickets and we cannot afford to do that.
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| To nobody in particular.
Bottom line is and final word on ticket prices is we won one of the two trophies on offer last year kept the squad together and have added 6/7 top class signings to the squad.
Our new pricing structures for the season are family orientated i.e a dad buying a ST gets a free kids ST so effectively dad and lad can go the match for 12 quid a game.
Flip side is we don't sign anyone get shut of players pay them all 20 quid a game and go down Duel Reg route but you can all come in cheap or for nowt???
It really is as straight forward as that.
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Not directly Steve but plenty of reference to the way the RLWC was marketed but bottom line is they filled LSV with cheap/ free tickets and we cannot afford to that.'"
Then as I pointed out, people need to READ what is posted, not what they think is posted
Again NOBODY has suggested free or cheap entrance, not me, not anybody
1 poster today has suggested the individual prices are high, but we had 3 posters yesterday suggesting that others had aiready done the same, not true
I stated several times how good a deal the 3/4 matches options were, my only suggestion was they could have been offered to everybody
This is a forum for discussion, better to read 1 st, then discuss, not jump to conclusions and attempt ridicule
Best of luck, I hope the town turn out in numbers to support the Boards investement
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| Quote ="Starbug"Then as I pointed out, people need to READ what is posted, not what they think is posted
Again NOBODY has suggested free or cheap entrance, not me, not anybody
1 poster today has suggested the individual prices are high, but we had 3 posters yesterday suggesting that others had aiready done the same, not true
I stated several times how good a deal the 3/4 matches options were, my only suggestion was they could have been offered to everybody
This is a forum for discussion, better to read 1 st, then discuss, not jump to conclusions and attempt ridicule
Best of luck, I hope the town turn out in numbers to support the Boards investement'"
Not sure we're I've attempted to ridicule you or anyone else Steve to be honest certainly not intended to do so.
On the contrary your opening gambit in the thread was to suggest the BOD are "essentially" discriminating against non season ticket holders which while not ridiculing someone directly is rediculous none the less
I've had my final word on the subject and outlined the clubs position so will leave it at that Steve.
Cheers
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| Quote ="SRW1996"Hi Jeff
In response to your post I shall keep it as simplistic as possible:
Working on an average of 1800 last season (which is generous) we trailed grossly reducing the entrance costs against Batley in the NRC cup semi final to a tenner. Doing this effectively means you need to increase your gate by a further 1080 just to break back even. It didn't work we got the same gate. Likewise supporters want to see quality players on the field and to do this we need a budget to attract them. This has been carefully planned out and is work in progress. We have to capitalise on the quality of players we have attracted to the LSV and the opponents we have lined up for them. As much as we would like the whole town to come for free to see the stadium full we have to accept the financial and commercial issues surrounding running the club. In life you get what you pay for and we are charging for the quality we are providing and we believe we have priced that correctly. We cannot please everyone all of the time and we will have courage in our convictions and deal with the consequences if we get it wrong as ultimately as a board we will be covering any financial shortfall should our actions cause one. We appreciate all the feedback and are encouraged by the fact so many of our supporters and opposition are engaging in discussing what Leigh Centurions are doing from whichever perspective they choose.
Many thanks
Andy Mazey'"
Suppose its the chicken and the egg
You need the income and thus charge them prices
But to give you a incite to a conversation,"you going to the friendlies? " man in pub "yeah prob how much is it?" regular fan" its £16/£18 for you depending when you pay" man in pub "how much? for a friendly to watch wigan get 50,its was only a tenner for the world cup,think I'll give it a miss"
A few years ago the super league use to come and play, and the lower league covered there travel to the game, as this agreement been scraped now? meaning the lower team got a cash boost from the fixture
The season ticket price is great but I think you will have a lot of pain before the cash starts to roll in and you may have to tempt a very doubting local public in through the doors with cheaper prices than these,would have thought £10/£5 would have covered running costs and got a decent crowd in for these friendlies
Good luck with it
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| As this an unofficial fans forum everyone has a right to their opinion.
Unless they break the AUP that is or get abusive towards another poster.
I hope , I really do that people turn up for these games and the stadium is at least half full
I'll go with :-
Wigan game 4000
Salford 3000
Wire 2000
Crusaders 2000
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Suppose its the chicken and the egg
You need the income and thus charge them prices
But to give you a incite to a conversation,"you going to the friendlies? " man in pub "yeah prob how much is it?" regular fan" its £16/£18 for you depending when you pay" man in pub "how much? for a friendly to watch wigan get 50,its was only a tenner for the world cup,think I'll give it a miss"
A few years ago the super league use to come and play, and the lower league covered there travel to the game, as this agreement been scraped now? meaning the lower team got a cash boost from the fixture
The season ticket price is great but I think you will have a lot of pain before the cash starts to roll in and you may have to tempt a very doubting local public in through the doors with cheaper prices than these,would have thought £10/£5 would have covered running costs and got a decent crowd in for these friendlies
Good luck with it'"
Thanks for the feedback Jeff will pass it on.
PS you think wrong unfortunately you can take it from me 5/10 quid will not cover the costs of opening two/ three sides and associated stewarding costs etc and I think it's only right I state this so when you do have your conversations in the tap rooms of Leigh you are speaking with facts from an official source rather than relaying urban myths.
Also your understanding of the lower League team keeping all associated gate receipts in some instances still applies to some games but not the Wigan fixture nor the Salford one.
Cheers
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"Suppose its the chicken and the egg
You need the income and thus charge them prices
But to give you a incite to a conversation,"you going to the friendlies? " man in pub "yeah prob how much is it?" regular fan" its £16/£18 for you depending when you pay" man in pub "how much? for a friendly to watch wigan get 50,its was only a tenner for the world cup,think I'll give it a miss"
A few years ago the super league use to come and play, and the lower league covered there travel to the game, as this agreement been scraped now? meaning the lower team got a cash boost from the fixture
The season ticket price is great but I think you will have a lot of pain before the cash starts to roll in and you may have to tempt a very doubting local public in through the doors with cheaper prices than these,would have thought £10/£5 would have covered running costs and got a decent crowd in for these friendlies
Good luck with it'"
Simple fact is Jeff and what I'd be saying if I were involved in your pub conversation is if you want a ambitious strong top championship and potential SL club and team you need to get you hand in your pocket and help contribute and support it.
Cheers
Andy
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"As this an unofficial fans forum everyone has a right to their opinion.
Unless they break the AUP that is or get abusive towards another poster.
I hope , I really do that people turn up for these games and the stadium is at least half full
I'll go with :-
Wigan game 4000
Salford 3000
Wire 2000
Crusaders 2000'"
I'd be happy with those numbers personally (can't speak for our FD) but would hope we can attract more to see a very strong Leigh side give a pretty much full strength Wigan (current SL&CC champions) stacked with International players a game.
Great start to what promises to be a great season for LC I can't ever remember being as excited about a Leigh team ever Lynda!
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| Andy I hope you remember to calculate the expenses correctly. I understand the costs of the tannoy and screen are astronomical. That should sort out the shared gate monies!!!
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Andy I hope you remember to calculate the expenses correctly. I understand the costs of the tannoy and screen are astronomical. That should sort out the shared gate monies!!!'"
Thankfully this will be the responsibility of our grumpy Finance Director and he's so tight he has a glass door on his fridge so he can make sure the light goes off when he closes it
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| Re expenses at the LSV 20% of ticket costs are VAT. Stadium hire must be 10 % then stewarding costs and the cost of match officials and travelling expenses.
To have a competative side folk have to pay a reasonable price for it . Charge next to nothing and you will never watch a side able to compete with sides who currently average more than 5 times in attendances and more of our average attendances.
When you go out for a meal you have the choice of a burger at MacDonalds or a more expensive restaurant but we all know which you would rather visit on a regular basis.
Promotion and relegation will be back at the end of 2014 and imo about time too.
We have a great squad this coming season lets turn up' back them and our Board who have assembled this squad.
My view is you get what you pay for.
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| The bottom line has to be that we are lucky to have a team to watch this coming season. It has been pointed out time and time again that the new BOM are running the club in a new and somewhat novel way. ie it has to run on a strong and sound financial base. To do this I accept I'll have to pay for it and will do so without complaint.
Keep up the excellent work Andy, nobody can predict the future but Im sure most of us will agree that Leigh Centurions are in a far better position now than earlier in the year, a new BOM has seen to that.
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| £16/18 to watch a friendly is too dear but if the the 4 games/3 games offer was open to everybody then it wouldn't have been as much as an issue as people would have the opportunity to get the tickets at a cheaper price.
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| Quote ="Leyther_till_death"£16/18 to watch a friendly is too dear but if the the 4 games/3 games offer was open to everybody then it wouldn't have been as much as an issue as people would have the opportunity to get the tickets at a cheaper price.'"
What he said.
I (and I suspect many others) did not buy my season ticket anticipating getting generous discounts off the ticket price of the pre-season games. I would sooner this pricing structure be available to everyone wishing to attend the games, and I fear the ticket price may prove proscriptive to non ST holders!!
With W*gan's previous track record when it comes to the strength of the team they send, you can see why many may not be convinced to part with 16/18 quid to watch us put 30/40 up their kids team.....with maybe 150 'hard-core' pie fans 'packing out' the South stand!!!
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| I haven't bothered with friendlies for a while as its been a pointless expense for me , was considering them this season and may still get a ST if the club confirms the TBC fixtures or at least indicates what days they are considering playing them (ie : is it Saturday like previously mentioned or could the TBC be moved to Fridays which has been the previous boards favourite day) but in regards the Pre Season games are the costs much different than previous years as I'm sure Wigans /Salfords was a similar price last season or have I got that wrong ?
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| Or it could be Sundays if Swinton are moving
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| I reckon they'll be back at Sedgley park so TBC could be Sunday games
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Or it could be Sundays if Swinton are moving'"
Hopefully
I was thinking the club said it was going to move some fixtures to Saturday night this season and so far they haven't been moved so thought it may be some of the TBC ones once things are ironed out with Swinton.
With a bit of luck we'll got confirmation soon or at least some news on when confirmation is expected.
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| Wasn't last years Wigan friendly one of our best gates of the whole season?
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