I always feel sorry for people who work as hard as mr Roddy and they're still struggling to put food on the table for the family.

Oh how I've missed The Prophet's posts, I've never seen anyone able to write so articulately yet produce absolute e.

In an ideal world, when we have thousands to pay for this dynamic CEO, I'm sure Trevor would willingly step aside to let this Business God take over the reins (BTW how would the rest of the fans react at the thought of having to pay out such a sum for a new CEO when the one we have at the moment works for nowt).

Also, how would they react at having to pay out for a dedicated promotions team/match day organiser/solicitors/accountants etc?

How much do you think it would cost to employ John Roddy/Miranda/Keith Freer/Trevor etc who all give their time freely?

All of these things cost money and it's only through the generosity and dedication of various board members that we are still in business. Gone are the days when we have people on the board just because they have a bit of money to put into the club (unfortunately there doesn't seem to be many of those in Leigh anyway) instead we have board members who are experts in their own fields, and they bring all their knowledge to the table - free of charge.

Unfortunately, things don't get done as quickly as they would if we had a plethora of full time staff but those we do have lend their hand in any way they can, often doing jobs that aren't really in their contracts.

So whilst it's all very well for The Prophet to tell the club exactly where they're going wrong, unless he's willing to put his money where his mouth is - he's just talking shIte.

I had a toot around at Fev on sunday and there was a feel of their plan "Destination Superleague" coming together, they are certainly working very hard in the community and are looking to get in new fans and targeting the youth structures, theres a classroom, a community bus etc,they are looking professional in their attempts too, good luck to them.

WE are just getting back from nearly going out of business, so it'll take a bit more time for us to catch up.

At last someone who saw the same as i did

there was some big gaps out on our wings when Fev scored .

As for folk having a go at Trevor B ,this is amazing , Trevor has worked his socks off for our club , and will continue to do so , the amount of work he puts in at the club is great , my message keep it going Trevor



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Frank you have just answered your Own question



when you say leave it to PR as he knows the players better than us

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And the passage of time hasn't had any impact on you being brainwashed into believing everything is going swimmingly and still wearing your Trevor blinkers.

Face facts, the longer people are prepared to "make do" the less chance we have of ever progressing. The current board/ceo are seeing a decline in crowds and seem to have little or no idea as to what to do about it and this is our only real income stream.

Instead of thinking everything is so wonderful try looking at initiatives other clubs have on the go, we are miles behind and to keep using Arthur leaving as a crutch is at best wearing thin.

Where have you seen me saying that everything is going swimmingly?

The point I'm making is that in your little bubble, the only solution is to throw money at the problem, even to the point of spending money we haven't got - and just look where that got other clubs like Bradford and Salford.

You've spouted reams of tripe telling the club HOW THINGS SHOULD BE DONE but forget to mention exactly how this should be achieved with a budget of nowt.

Are you really suggesting we should spend money we haven't got to achieve your/our aim?

What do you suggest Profit?

I've never suggested we spend money we don't have, simply our ability as a club to generate the income to make sure we do.

Nobody disputes the effort being made, however this is of little consequence when nothing tangible is seemingly being done to market the club to all stakeholders, be they fans or potential investors. If those making the effort are not actually up to the task then at what point are they going to realise they are going nowhere fast? You can have as many volunteers busting their tripe but if the puppet master is clueless then what hope do you have of success?

You carry on doing what you do if it makes you feel important/involved, however as soon as what you are talking hits the fan do not be surprised. Without being propped up by the LSV we are no further forward than we were 18 months ago despite anything being said at the fans forum or anywhere else.

The board have made it clear they will not be putting any money in. Their time would thus be best spent finding people who may be prepared to in which case and standing aside - these people do exist and we don't need huge figures being introduced, just extra funds to cover a marketing budget controlled by a ceo who knows how to speculate to accumulate with regards to crowd numbers and other potential revenue streams.

I won't be naming anybody but know of 2 such people who refuse to work with the current board and more so the ceo.

The problem isn't Trev, he is a vital cog in the wheel that needs to deal with the unique world of WMBC.
Keith is vital, we need a lawyer on board. Phil is needed as there is nobody else.
The rest I don't understand why they are Directors, in my world the first job as a Director of a sports club is to put money in. Would LISA be treated the same if they didn't put money in every year?
We need to be creative to attract either a number of folk willing to tip in a cumulative £100k pa or a single investor to do the same. Instead we have a clear 'no money from here Guv' stance
Lets capitalise the debts/overdrafts to shares and raise cash via a shares issue - we can do so much more but it would need the PG's capitalised imo to start the ball rolling.
We have much improved retained income from LSV now, but we need cash to stop treading water and move forward

I can't believe what I'm reading. One bad loss (the first game of the season). A comment from someone about how Feathersrtone are coming on and people want a new BODs. Talk about over reacting, it's the start oif the bloody season for crying out loud.

So would The Prophet and Maurice be happy if the BOD and the CEO resigned en masse?

If so, what do we do whilst we wait for the masses of millionaires with nothing better to do with their money to jump at the chance of pouring money into our club?

The Prophet, WHY haven't you ever asked these questions at the Fans Forum yet you so eloquently pose them on here for all to read? Oh I forget, that's the real world isn't it, where people actually ask question face to face rather than hiding behind some pretentious God-like identity.

Prophet raises some points for discussion, he may have another agenda but the fact remains we need to raise cash from somewhere to go forward in areas we are weak.
When we hit our time of need we didn't get any interest from individuals - why when others did in our division?
The BoD have done a fantastic job since our post Thomas implosion but how do we get to the next level? How do we create the extra cash? The world keeps moving, we can't stand still.

Pre-match entertainment this Sunday public hanging outside the Whistling Wren followed by two beheadings at half time Now That's What You Call Entertaiment LOL

I wouldn't want for that at all, but would you be happy never to obtain an external cash injection to move us forward?
Trevor has opened up the income streams from LSV, and is the ultimate political animal that we have needed for years. His ability to work relationships to our benefit is brilliant, previously we created conflict and got led by our testicles as a consequence.
What we lack is cash to move forward, it is fair to expect crowds to struggle again unless the building sector comes to life - so where will that cash come from?
My visions are well documented over the years and consistent, it doesn't stop me supporting my club and respecting the results Phil, Keith and Trev have achieved.

We absolutely need to raise extra cash because without it we won't survive but most of us obviously don't live in the same world as The Prophet as we can't just magic up extra money when needed.

It peeves me because he only raises his mysterious head to have a go at the board; he obviously has a hidden agenda and it's clear to all that he has a personal gripe against Trevor - that's his prerogative, but his skewed thinking and biased posts on here have the potential to damage the club even though most of what he writes is wrong.

I don't know who's feeding him the info but he's claiming to know what goes on there yet he obviously hasn't got a clue.

I respect you Maurice because you're not afraid to put yourself out there; everyone knows who you are and you tell it like you see it. I might not agree with everything you say but I respect your right to say it regardless of who agrees or disagrees with it.

However, a man who lurks in the shadows without the bottle to stand up and be counted is a coward. A keyboard warrior at it's worst and one who should be treated with the contempt he deserves.

Just watched Leigh v Fev NRC Feb 2010 to remind myself that they can be beaten ,score 36 6 plus held up 4 times and fluffed 2 ,Leigh played great in attack and defence .

After 3 boring off season months, it is an odd one that this has cropped up at the same time as the first ball has been kick.

Those were the days! Of course, I seem to remeber Fev fans muttering something about injuries.

aye... we were well beaten that day.

As Alan has commented above, .... I suppose if we took six first choice forrads out of that team on sunday, then after ten minutes we withdrew both centres, it might have "evened things up a bit"!

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HLHUyX9GVk Enjoy Robin

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HLHUyX9GVk Enjoy Robin

Was good that I hope we see Govin back in June

Maybe, if you hadn't replaced them ,that is!