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| Quote ="Alan"Well, at the 'meet the players' evening, the owner did say that Acton wouldn't be anywhere near Leigh, when we play Toronto!
Not a bad call, although this will be just the kind of test he will have to face.'"
Does this mean DB has the last say on team selection or was he speaking on the coaches behalf?
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| Quote ="scrum"Does this mean DB has the last say on team selection or was he speaking on the coaches behalf?'"
Possibly Alan could say in what context DB made that statement! That way you can stop reading into things that are not there.
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| Quote ="atomic"Don't see the point in avoiding it,theres a full season ahead.'"
And he could miss half of it by playing in that game - you can't put the other teams in the league in the same context as Toronto, the whole meaning is so different - and Rowley knows it
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| Quote ="atomic"Possibly Alan could say in what context DB made that statement! That way you can stop reading into things that are not there.'"
Gladly.
My interpretation was that he was joking. (He had alluded to the fact that we had nobody left from the Rowley era, and somebody mentioned Jamie.)
We can't allow the opposition to dictate who we select/don't select. I reckon that Rowley will 100% try to take advantage of any perceived weakness and that Jamie is just going to deal with this type of situation. It could be the making of him. (or................................................)
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| Quote ="Alan"Gladly.
My interpretation was that he was joking. (He had alluded to the fact that we had nobody left from the Rowley era, and somebody mentioned Jamie.)
We can't allow the opposition to dictate who we select/don't select. I reckon that Rowley will 100% try to take advantage of any perceived weakness and that Jamie is just going to deal with this type of situation. It could be the making of him. (or................................................)'"
Thanks for the reply-There are a few hotheads in the Toronto squad maybe we will target them.
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| Quote ="ColD"=#FF4000And he could miss half of it by playing in that game - you can't put the other teams in the league in the same context as Toronto, the whole meaning is so different - and Rowley knows it'"
Some could miss half through injury. All speculation. He's a paid professional Rugby League player and has a job to do.
Leaving him out sends a clear message to all..
Rip it up Jamie lad.. Send the pac,packing.
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| Moot point this, should he play or not?
Paul Rowley will use every means at his disposal to win the game, niggling Jamie Acton is a primary function he will not miss, how much does he value Jamie as a threat, would he be willing to play a chess move and sacrafice someone like Bussey with instruction that if also gets sent of so be it.
On the other hand does Neil Jukes think selecting Jamie may disrupt the team to much if he gets sent off
I'm with Atomic, we are scheduled to play TWP 3 times this year, not playing him sends out a message for all the wrong reasons, and if by any actions Jamie does are unwarrented in that being something totally stupid, then the club should get shut, surely after Jamies public apoligies to the fans and his teammates following his last suspension, he should expect nothing less.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Re Jamie Acton v Toronto.
Paul Rowley will come to the LSV with the most simple 3 point game plan to beat Leigh
1) Get Acton sent off, the earlier the better.
2) Get the ball to Brierley, to fling a long over the top ball to the left edge. two out of three ballswill catch Matty Dawson asleep, drifting .
3) Most imperative, See point number one.
We can't say we are not warned here. Acton does not have the maturity or presence of mind to identify it or to deal with it. Rowley knows it.'"
Well 'H' here we are another season and another difference of opinions over Jaime Acton
If PR does manage to get Jaime sent off, that will be some achievement and I'm still waiting for someone to tell me when Jaime was last sent off for Leigh?
We have got to have some players who play the game on the edge, Hulls Prop Watts, received three Red Cards last season and he has Medals in his pocket and was on the verge of World Cup Selection Are Hull fans wanting rid of him?
All teams have players who 'run the gauntlet' when it come to discipline! In the Qualifiers game against KR Jewson (KR Prop) had a field day against us bullying our pack, I was particularly frustrated to see Jaime, Hock and Weston sat in the Stand, do you think they would have allowed Jewson a free hand? No we have got to have some fire and, Jaime is one of the best Props in the Game hence, his four year contract!
At Mick Martyn's funeral Service recently, I noticed the Leigh squad enter the Church and sit on Benches along the Church Wall. None of those players were aware that they had just filed past another Leigh legend, 85 year old Stan Owen. Leaving the Church the players again passed by Stan and as Jamie passed him, I couldn't help but smile(first of the day) I though Jamie, you don't know who you have just passed H, you'll remember Stan as well as do and know Stan too played the game 'on the Edge'
I would ask all our fans to get behind Jaime because he puts his body on the line for Leigh every time he plays and, that'll do for me (Tommy)
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| Quote ="kirkhall"Well 'H' here we are another season and another difference of opinions over Jaime Acton
If PR does manage to get Jaime sent off, that will be some achievement and I'm still waiting for someone to tell me when Jaime was last sent off for Leigh?
We have got to have some players who play the game on the edge, Hulls Prop Watts, received three Red Cards last season and he has Medals in his pocket and was on the verge of World Cup Selection
Are Hull fans wanting rid of him?
All teams have players who 'run the gauntlet' when it come to discipline! In the Qualifiers game against KR Jewson (KR Prop) had a field day against us bullying our pack, I was particularly frustrated to see Jaime, Hock and Weston sat in the Stand, do you think they would have allowed Jewson a free hand? No we have got to have some fire and, Jaime is one of the best Props in the Game hence, his four year contract!
At Mick Martyn's funeral Service recently, I noticed the Leigh squad enter the Church and sit on Benches along the Church Wall. None of those players were aware that they had just filed past another Leigh legend, 85 year old Stan Owen. Leaving the Church the players again passed by Stan and as Jamie passed him, I couldn't help but smile(first of the day) I though Jamie, you don't know who you have just passed
H, you'll remember Stan as well as do and know Stan too played the game 'on the Edge'
I would ask all our fans to get behind Jaime because he puts his body on the line for Leigh every time he plays and, that'll do for me (Tommy)
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I agree, good post Kirk.
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| Acton, Hansen, Vaivai and both Thompsons will knock their oppos all over the place on the 4th
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| Quote ="kirkhall"Well 'H' here we are another season and another difference of opinions over Jaime Acton
If PR does manage to get Jaime sent off, that will be some achievement and I'm still waiting for someone to tell me when Jaime was last sent off for Leigh?
We have got to have some players who play the game on the edge, Hulls Prop Watts, received three Red Cards last season and he has Medals in his pocket and was on the verge of World Cup Selection
Are Hull fans wanting rid of him?
All teams have players who 'run the gauntlet' when it come to discipline! In the Qualifiers game against KR Jewson (KR Prop) had a field day against us bullying our pack, I was particularly frustrated to see Jaime, Hock and Weston sat in the Stand, do you think they would have allowed Jewson a free hand? No we have got to have some fire and, Jaime is one of the best Props in the Game hence, his four year contract!
At Mick Martyn's funeral Service recently, I noticed the Leigh squad enter the Church and sit on Benches along the Church Wall. None of those players were aware that they had just filed past another Leigh legend, 85 year old Stan Owen. Leaving the Church the players again passed by Stan and as Jamie passed him, I couldn't help but smile(first of the day) I though Jamie, you don't know who you have just passed
H, you'll remember Stan as well as do and know Stan too played the game 'on the Edge'
I would ask all our fans to get behind Jaime because he puts his body on the line for Leigh every time he plays and, that'll do for me (Tommy)
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Well here we are on the verge of another season Kirky Sir and I am still waiting for Acton to A) convince me and B) deliver that promise a lot see in him. In fact I am still awaiting for him to be available for team selection for more than a minimum of two thirds of all Leigh RL games per season.
But we will see , we will see. I want him to prosper as much as you and all our fans do, but I fear something is not right with him. I really do.
Nice little story about Stan who was a player and a Gent, I have a lot of respect for albeit it I have not bumped into him for a long time. Sadly I was away at the time of Mick's funeral. I also remember Stan's lad, young Ivor. Probably no longer a lad any more.
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| Also we both know the game has moved on since Stan's glory days. It is a lot faster than it ever was. Multiple TV cameras, computers and full on player performance analysis are now the order of the day.
Players are now under so much scrutiny, and are playing under enormous pressures. You have to control these pressures and keep emotions in check and learn to where to channel aggression correctly. The ability to do so is what breeds winners.
It is one thing young Gunner saying we have to live with Acton conceding a couple of penalties here and there but I don't subscribe to the theory. The most disciplined team wins Super League games so those penalties can be all the difference.
What is the saying now a days?
[i'Penalty, Penalty, TRY' [/i
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Also we both know the game has moved on since Stan's glory days. It is a lot faster than it ever was. Multiple TV cameras, computers and full on player performance analysis are now the order of the day.
Players are now under so much scrutiny, and are playing under enormous pressures. You have to control these pressures and keep emotions in check and learn to where to channel aggression correctly. The ability to do so is what breeds winners.
It is one thing young Gunner saying we have to live with Acton conceding a couple of penalties here and there but I don't subscribe to the theory. The most disciplined team wins Super League games so those penalties can be all the difference.
What is the saying now a days?
[i'Penalty, Penalty, TRY' [/i'" what I'm trying to say about Acton is yes he might give a penalty because at the moment any sort of aggression and he gets pulled but what I want out of him is stop the silly penalties but I bet he's not one of the worst for giving stupid penalties like off side, lying on or speaking back to the referee,it's them penalties that wind me up not the ones were Acton belts someone
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| Quote ="gunners guns13"what I'm trying to say about Acton is yes he might give a penalty because at the moment any sort of aggression and he gets pulled but what I want out of him is stop the silly penalties but I bet he's not one of the worst for giving stupid penalties like off side, lying on or speaking back to the referee,it's them penalties that wind me up not the ones were Acton belts someone'"
I recall Tickle and Hopkin were not shy when it came to conceding Penalties last season
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Well here we are on the verge of another season Kirky Sir and I am still waiting for Acton to A) convince me and B) deliver that promise a lot see in him. In fact I am still awaiting for him to be available for team selection for more than a minimum of two thirds of all Leigh RL games per season.
But we will see , we will see. I want him to prosper as much as you and all our fans do, but I fear something is not right with him. I really do.
Nice little story about Stan who was a player and a Gent, I have a lot of respect for albeit it I have not bumped into him for a long time. Sadly I was away at the time of Mick's funeral. I also remember Stan's lad, young Ivor. Probably no longer a lad any more.
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Stan was accompanied by his (young) Son Ivor. Whilst Stan walked with the aid of a stick, I amused to see him leave it on his chair while he walked to the other side of the Church to speak to some of his former playing colleagues
What a character no braver player played the game and, you didn't mess with Stan
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| All that era had amazing appearance records - never seemed to get injured. Although part-time it was a full 80 minutes no interchange no subs no video ref delays and no six tackle halt to proceedings - not sure how they managed without water carriers either!
Wonder what’s different that we end up with huge number of players out for the season at crucial times?
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| Acton has got to appear against Toronto, if he doesn't it gives Rowley bragging rights. However, he shouldn't start; he should be introduced after the expected opening exchanges have subsided.
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| Quote ="kirkhall"I recall Tickle and Hopkin were not shy when it came to conceding Penalties last season
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That's why we got shut of both
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"That's why we got shut of both
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The pair of them both did more than their fair share of knocking on as well
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| Quote ="reffy"Acton has got to appear against Toronto, if he doesn't it gives Rowley bragging rights. =#FF0000However, he shouldn't start; he should be introduced after the expected opening exchanges have subsided.'"
rubbish
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Quote ="sendhimoffref"rubbish'"
Think that Reffy...
( https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=come+ ... e&ie=UTF-8)
...might have a point - though its a hard call.
Think that your post is unhelpful, rude and (unqualified as it is) utterly without a point, as indeed you seem to...No, must not be rude.
December 25th, eh? The youngsters in the Clan Bongser have long since stopped playing with their Christmas toys and are making birthday lists. Move on, Sir, and move along.
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Quote ="sendhimoffref"rubbish'"
Think that Reffy...
( https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=come+ ... e&ie=UTF-8)
...might have a point - though its a hard call.
Think that your post is unhelpful, rude and (unqualified as it is) utterly without a point, as indeed you seem to...No, must not be rude.
December 25th, eh? The youngsters in the Clan Bongser have long since stopped playing with their Christmas toys and are making birthday lists. Move on, Sir, and move along.
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Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Think that Reffy...
(https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=come+ ... e&ie=UTF-8)
...might have a point - though its a hard call.
Think that your post is unhelpful, rude and (unqualified as it is) utterly without a point, as indeed you seem to...No, must not be rude.
December 25th, eh? The youngsters in the Clan Bongser have long since stopped playing with their Christmas toys and are making birthday lists. Move on, Sir, and move along.'"
what does tha know apart from posting a pile of uninteresting twaddle
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Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Think that Reffy...
(https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=come+ ... e&ie=UTF-8)
...might have a point - though its a hard call.
Think that your post is unhelpful, rude and (unqualified as it is) utterly without a point, as indeed you seem to...No, must not be rude.
December 25th, eh? The youngsters in the Clan Bongser have long since stopped playing with their Christmas toys and are making birthday lists. Move on, Sir, and move along.'"
what does tha know apart from posting a pile of uninteresting twaddle
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| Quote ="sendhimoffref"what does tha know apart from posting a pile of uninteresting twaddle'"
You have a PM, I suggest you read it at your earliest convenience.
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| Quote ="RoyBoy29"oh dear'"
[urlhttps://youtu.be/LuLbSuSxlx8[/url
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