Two people using the same IP isn't proof of anything, some IP's have dozens of members using them. For example, the IP address being used by the person (mconnor) who started the Jagger thread was being used by 23 people. Interestingly, 'mconnor' was a brand new account and only set up the day before he started the thread. There's no way that person could have known the IP's matched unless they were told so by a mod, or maybe 'mconnor' was actually a mod (there is a mod on the list of matching IPs).

For the record, moderators like me and DJ only have access to our own board and we don't have access to email addresses. I don't know why other mods are convinced that CC is Mr Jagger because the only thing linking them (as far as the information we have), is the IP address.

Maybe others know more than I do but I need more than that to convince me it's the same person.

Charlie (Ian) is a good friend of mine and when I asked him about it, he told me is definitely not Mr Jagger. He has told me 'lots of stuff' in his time, and if he was using that user name, he WOULD have told me, believe you me.

The proof is in the ip.Yes if you have multiple devices connecting from the same location ie: mums connected to rlfans on her phone and dads connected on his laptop using the same lan.Then you'll have two users using the same ip.

What you won't have is 23 people from one location,thats the ip that needs banning on the server.

Someone must have access to each users MAC address. It still can be manipulated but I would think 99% of people on here wouldnt even know where to begin.

FWIW I do not think CC is Jagger and I have told a couple of people who I think it is. I doubt Jagger has been banned and think the only reasons the person has stopped posting is because they have a conscience and saw the stick that Charlie was getting.

Edit: I wonder who the mod is on the address.

I think its Frankie B, needed a new cap and thought he'd use this as a you tube prelude

Mo I have had 4 user names on this board. They are Frankb Salfordleyther Salfordlad and my current name. Had 2 change them cos of password problems. I would never post using 2 different names cos I would not know how too.

An apology is not necessary you can get me a pint instead.

1stly ,if mr Jagger has now decided to no longer post, as he apparently isnt banned, then good riddance, who ever he was

2nd ,Paul is no longer an employee of the club, so he, or what he says is no longer of any consequence , an irrelivance

We move on and support those still at the club, as we have done in the past and will do in the future

Both Jagger and the clown stopped posting simultaniounsly, the silence is damning in my eye. Anyway, this board has been a more pleasant experience for both Leythers and visitors to the board. Let's get back to the RLFANS forum we had before this character started to take over.

I believe Charlie stopped posting on principal of been accused of something which he denies. Although a pain in the backside sometimes and drags threads off topic(Thats for mods to sort), he is actually quite knowledgable about RL when he wants to be. I think Jagger stopped posting because he is old enough to know better and although he probably thought it were funny at the time the sly digs got worse and it was bound to blow up eventually.

So who is Jagger, Greg?

I have my suspicions, but Ian isn't one of them.

He wasn't asking you, And that doesn't answer the question anyway.

I dont know either but as John said, I also have my suspicions. If it narrows it down for you its someone who is browsing the forum as I make this post.

Edit: Also logged off once I had made the post.................

I am not Spartacus.

Well it probably is , However ,I wouldn't stop posting on these forums if I hadn't done anything wrong, and if CC is innocent, then I would welcome him back to these forums. At the the end of the day,Mr Jagger hasn't been revealed, so it now seems it doesn't matter anymore. So If anyone starts to post in the future with the same kind of post similar to the infamous Mr Jagger, then I hope our mods are quick to notice and respond accordingly,

I thought you and Ian went back a long way.
He is far more loyal to you than you to him.

Sorry John ,I don't understand that post.
Could you explain in more detail?

I have met Ian many times and oft had a pint with the fella.
He comes across as a top bloke who I'm happy to have a pot with and put the world to rights.
I accept I'm out of my jurisdiction on here.... but this forum is nonthebetter for his absence.

He probably felt he had no choice seen as though very few people seemed to be backing him up and even a couple of mods insinuated that he were Jagger. In hindsight though stopping posting was probably a bad choice as people have taken it as an admission of guilt and the mods seem loathe to put an end to the speculation.

Sorry but who cares it's a rugby forum for Christ sake!

If you're turning on people who refer to themselves in the third person then you should go after The Watcher next.

I agree, I'm missing him already.

Not sure about the Jagger thing, guess it must have been Charlie but who really cares.

Come back in Charlie and have a brew!

Just for the record, I wasn't one of the mods who insinuated that he was - for the simple reason that I don't know (as I explained earlier).

I don't know whether the site mods would know for sure but I know that neither myself nor DJ, as forum mods, have enough information to say for sure either way.