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| Washing dirty laundry in public in a vat of sour grapes.
Petulant, amateurish, childish, knee-jerk statement.
A perfect example of why the RFL hates Leigh and why the amateur clubs can never and should never be expected to work with the pro club.
Got Rowley with a capital R written all over it. As if his clan hasn't done enough damage.
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| Someone with a PR background needs to get into Leigh and very very quickly, its a PR disaster zone - what a press release .
I'm all for speaking the truth (backed AR completley when he did it about the RFL) but this press release is about a untied youngster, potential to prove, put bluntly he isn't of that quality just yet.
A "unfortuantly it appears Salford nipped in at the last hour to sign him, we wish him well with the future" press release would have sufficed IMO.
However as the club are knocking the press releases out , how about releasing how much it will cost to watch Leigh Centurions next season
It was promised to be released some weeks ago - hope we've not gone back on our word
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| Quote ="waterfield's finest"Washing dirty laundry in public in a vat of sour grapes.
Petulant, amateurish, childish, knee-jerk statement.
A perfect example of why the RFL hates Leigh and why the amateur clubs can never and should never be expected to work with the pro club.
:21lf8qd4Got Rowley with a capital R written all over it. As if his clan hasn't done enough damage.[/
Yet another of your ' made up ' assumptions , if you dont Know , dont post
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| I would like to know who at the club issued this statement.
It's amateurish and petulant and that person should be removed from their post for a grave error of judgement.
Nobody comes out of this one looking good, especially the Leigh Centurions.
A statement needed to be made, but that was not it.
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| Quote ="Michael_Ward"I would like to know who at the club issued this statement.
It's amateurish and petulant and that person should be removed from their post for a grave error of judgement.
Nobody comes out of this one looking good, especially the Leigh Centurions.
A statement needed to be made, but that was not it.'"
Interesting call that one
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| the statement from Leigh was quite a 'bitter' one. Just like the one when we didn't get a Super League franchise (horrible word), same author this time round ?
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| Quote ="Starbug"Interesting call that one
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whats your view of the statement Starbug?
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| so from what i can gather hopkins aint signed for us, is this correct, if so then it is strange as it was announced in le on monday that he had.
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| Quote ="Bradleigh"the statement from Leigh was quite a 'bitter' one. Just like the one when we didn't get a Super League franshise (horrible word), same author this time round ?'"
Never let the truth get in the way of a good ' dig ' eh
There are only probably 2/3 people who actually know the truth in all this , but lets all have a pop just for the sake of it
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| I think we all need to take a deep breath here and instead of those of us' who don,t know all the facts' putting in our four penneth to keep out of it.
I would lock this thread for now if I was a mod and leave it for Leigh RLFC and Easts ARLFC and more importantly the lad concerned to sort out.
Slagging either side off doesn,t do either club any good in my view and at the end of the day we might see an outcome that will resolve the matter' hopefully in the best interests' of the one person in this matter who really does matter.
I always have my own opinion/view and I still have but for myself'on this one' I am keeping out of it.
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| Quote ="cherry & white"whats your view of the statement Starbug?'"
There are usually 2 sides to every disagreement , perhaps not how I would have done it
BUT I dont know what has happened , so I will not judge on something I dont know about , unlike many on here it seems
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| ok so the statement from leigh was unprofessional, but i dont think leigh are to blame in all this.
a statement like toadstool would have done nicely
dont think anything should have been put on this forum about sam until everything was signed and sam was was officially a leigh player.
has for mr chairman saying he wanted to raise sam's profile why not wait till after he had signed for leigh? then start telling people how good sam is.
sam seems to be having a good season at leigh east but some of the comments mr chairman wrote on here raising sam's profile were rather laughable.
dont get me wrong sam has the potential to have a good career in the game and hopefully something can be sorted out of all this, and sam will sign for his home town club.
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| no do not lock it, lets have the truth of the matter revealed, now that would be interesting, as it would in many matters?
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| Quote ="frankb"I think we all need to take a deep breath here and instead of those of us' who don,t know all the facts' putting in our four penneth to keep out of it.I would lock this thread for now if I was a mod and leave it for Leigh RLFC and Easts ARLFC and more importantly the lad concerned to sort out.
Slagging either side off doesn,t do either club any good in my view and at the end of the day we might see an outcome that will resolve the matter' hopefully in the best interests' of the one person in this matter who really does matter.
I always have my own opinion/view and I still have but for myself'on this one' I am keeping out of it.[/quote
I did try earlier with this Frank
Quote Far too much discussion about Sam , I would suggest it all gets left for now , best of luck ' Hoppie ' wherever you end up'" '"
Some it seems always want to use the opportunity to have a dig at either the club or somebody at the club , usually without the ' facts ' to hand
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| The Watcher believes that the statement from Leigh was a very honest summary of what the club has been through. LRLFC obviously thought they had their man but had not foreseen the actions of Fishwick, who it would appear has done the dirty on the LSV outfit & touted the player in question to other clubs.
The Watcher now surmises that the latest club (Salford) has offered what Fishwick thinks is a better deal & Fishwick has then informed The Centurions expecting them to match the SL clubs offer. At this point Leigh quite correctly pulled out of the talks. If this has occurred then The Watcher advises Hopkins to dump Fishwick & with his father get in touch with Mr Millward ASAP.
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| Quote ="WOLRAB"no do not lock it, lets have the truth of the matter revealed, now that would be interesting, as it would in many matters?'"
Who's truth do you want
Sam's ?
Sam's parents ?
His coach's ?
Mr Millwards ?
Mr Rowleys ?
Mr Chairmans ?
The mysterious Leigh east phone callers ?
Shaun Mcrea and Steve Simms ?
Shandy Bass's ?
I'll guarantee if you interviewed the lot of them , they would all be different
Lets just let Sam get on with his life
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| Quote ="The Watcher"The Watcher believes that the statement from Leigh was a very honest summary of what the club has been through. LRLFC obviously thought they had their man but had not foreseen the actions of Fishwick, who it would appear has done the dirty on the LSV outfit & touted the player in question to other clubs.
The Watcher now surmises that the latest club (Salford) has offered what Fishwick thinks is a better deal & Fishwick has then informed The Centurions expecting them to match the SL clubs offer. At this point Leigh quite correctly pulled out of the talks. If this has occurred then The Watcher advises Hopkins to dump Fishwick & with his father get in touch with Mr Millward ASAP.'"
You are Andy Clarke and i claim my fiver
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| Quote ="The Watcher"The Watcher believes that the statement from Leigh was a very honest summary of what the club has been through. LRLFC obviously thought they had their man but had not foreseen the actions of Fishwick, who it would appear has done the dirty on the LSV outfit & touted the player in question to other clubs.
The Watcher now surmises that the latest club (Salford) has offered what Fishwick thinks is a better deal & Fishwick has then informed The Centurions expecting them to match the SL clubs offer. At this point Leigh quite correctly pulled out of the talks. If this has occurred then The Watcher advises Hopkins to dump Fishwick & with his father get in touch with Mr Millward ASAP.'"
sounds like the best course of action to me
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| Embarrasing all round I reckon.
Easts could have dealt with this better
The statement from the club is a disgrace for a professional club, whoever wrote that and sanctioned it needs to have a very close look at themselves.
Funny feeling all in all that at the end of the day he may well end up at Leigh, but either way hopefully lessons have been learned.
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| or should i say cherry & white believes the watcher is Andy Clarke and the cherry & white should claim his fiver
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| Quote
Funny feeling all in all that at the end of the day he may well end up at Leigh, but either way hopefully lessons have been learned.'"
The main lesson being ....Do not deal with Fishwick,he is untrustworthy ....from a Leigh RLFC point of view.
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| Quote ="The Watcher"Quote
Funny feeling all in all that at the end of the day he may well end up at Leigh, but either way hopefully lessons have been learned.'"
The main lesson being ....Do not deal with Fishwick,he is untrustworthy ....from a Leigh RLFC point of view.'"
Give the man a chance, like I say, hopefully lessons learned all round
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| The lad has a right to get the best deal for himself and so do Leigh and so do Salford and for that matter so do Leigh East.
No need for Mr. C to put information re potential signing on here in the first place. It's nice to be in-the-know but some things should be private.
No need for Leigh to issue such a petty statement. Not the first time. It is becoming embarrassing.
Too many egos playing the big I am all the way through this episode.
These things are best done behind closed doors and if statements need to be issued then after all the events have taken place and in a professional manner.
Embarrassing all round really.
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| Quote ="Bradleigh"the statement from Leigh was quite a 'bitter' one. Just like the one when we didn't get a Super League franshise (horrible word), same author this time round ?'"
you couldnt be farther from the truth
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| Quote ="Starbug"Quote ="waterfield's finest"Washing dirty laundry in public in a vat of sour grapes.
Petulant, amateurish, childish, knee-jerk statement.
A perfect example of why the RFL hates Leigh and why the amateur clubs can never and should never be expected to work with the pro club.
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Yet another of your ' made up ' assumptions , if you dont Know , dont post'" '"
True - but a presumption not an assumption. Call it an educated guess
Also, I'm far from the first person to post without KNOWLEDGE on this particular topic so forgive me for taking no notice of your request for self-censorship. If nobody else bothers with known fact, why should I?
What I do KNOW is that this statement does nobody any good.
Pathetic debacle, all in all.
To quote Stuart Maconie, "How very Leigh".
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