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| Quote ="reffy"Does that mean that real fans don't sing it?
As to the TV appearances, I am not bothered either way. It isn't a programme I watch and won't be doing for this one.'"
Not at all , no such thing as ' real ' fans I was just pleased that it wasn't sang ,
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| Quote ="mr. chairman"good post alan very true when i was coach on my days off i would be at the club 12 hrs a day and saw first hand what people did and was amazed at how they were treated , don't forget i thought i was a kind of volunteer as well the money i was paid was peanuts for the hours i worked and your right without derek the club would have died but when andy got a group of people together his vision of the club was spot on and i thought we are going places but it didn't happen but in that time the volunteers were treated very well'"
Andy will be the first to admit he didn't get the group together Keith, at the time nobody was willing to take ownership and give some direction after the players hadn't been paid. Interested parties met, financial commitments given and aspects of the clubs running allocated. Derek paid the players wages and we just about got the winding up order sorted, thanks to Michael, John and Derek.
It was the platform that got the club moving again and ignited the dream inside the one willing and able to dig deep to realise it. You need serious cash to be successful as a small town club to get to the top table today, the relatively small amounts we put in would not get us there but
keeping the club breathing and then to move it forward off the pitch is something Andy, myself and others no longer involved are probably extremely proud to have been a part of.
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| I'm only speculating, but I'm sure there is a commercial pay-off for AB and any other DB companies with Leigh being in Super League - I'm sure this was in the business plan. And that's a good thing if both can sustain each other commercially. Personally I think Derek has done a great job and this current injury crisis is really sad to witness as the whole team from top to bottom deserve more. Maybe we'll have a good run of form going into the last third of the season and into the 8s. To replicate that ebullient optimism from the 8s last season, bang the first half of the Huddersfield game on, what a 40 minutes that was, and on paper the squad wasn't as good as this year. Absolutely superb!
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| I would speculate any commercial payment will be donated to charity..
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| Some on here are deluded
The centurion can put a photo of anyone at the club on their wall !
The publicity on Rinder will be good for rugby league which I suspect us why they did it and to have a laugh at themselves what's wrong with that ?
The Weigh in at Magic again publicity for us and Salford not a bad thing
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| I believe Rugby League, as a sport, is low on 'characters' (i.e. individuals who bring the sport to the attention of the public) these days. When such people emerge, we shouldn't knock them for everything they do - providing their actions do not harm the sport.
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| It's definitely low on characters Alan, but I'd prefer my characters to actually play the sport and not be the people who should sit quietly in the background. Do you not think it must be embarrassing for Jukesy to rarely get a mention when Leigh are in the news? I cringe every time I see the words 'Leigh owner....'. I reckon more people know his name than they do the rest of the team and that can't be right. Surely the whole world now knows he's sunk a fortune into the club. Cool. Enough already. We know. We've heard it a 1000 times. He gives loads to charity. Cool. Enough already. We know. We've heard it a 1000 times.
Of course at the moment, we're being told that he's going to fix it - is Jukesy not up to the job of fixing it? Well that's a vote of confidence isn't it? It's just wrong, and like I said, in RL circles he's a laughing stock and they know that Jukesy is his yes man which doesn't show our club up in a good light.
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| Quote ="mish"It's definitely low on characters Alan, but I'd prefer my characters to actually play the sport and not be the people who should sit quietly in the background. Do you not think it must be embarrassing for Jukesy to rarely get a mention when Leigh are in the news? I cringe every time I see the words 'Leigh owner....'. I reckon more people know his name than they do the rest of the team and that can't be right. Surely the whole world now knows he's sunk a fortune into the club. Cool. Enough already. We know. We've heard it a 1000 times. He gives loads to charity. Cool. Enough already. We know. We've heard it a 1000 times.
Of course at the moment, we're being told that he's going to fix it - is Jukesy not up to the job of fixing it? Well that's a vote of confidence isn't it? It's just wrong, and like I said, in RL circles he's a laughing stock and they know that Jukesy is his yes man which doesn't show our club up in a good light.'"
Which RL circles, the one over the Atlantic?
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Which RL circles, the one over the Atlantic?'"
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Which RL circles, the one over the Atlantic?'"
If that's what you want to believe then yes, that massive RL circle over the Atlantic.
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| Quote ="mish"It's definitely low on characters Alan, but I'd prefer my characters to actually play the sport and not be the people who should sit quietly in the background. Do you not think it must be embarrassing for Jukesy to rarely get a mention when Leigh are in the news? I cringe every time I see the words 'Leigh owner....'. I reckon more people know his name than they do the rest of the team and that can't be right. Surely the whole world now knows he's sunk a fortune into the club. Cool. Enough already. We know. We've heard it a 1000 times. He gives loads to charity. Cool. Enough already. We know. We've heard it a 1000 times.
Of course at the moment, we're being told that he's going to fix it - is Jukesy not up to the job of fixing it? Well that's a vote of confidence isn't it? It's just wrong, and like I said, in RL circles he's a laughing stock and they know that Jukesy is his yes man which doesn't show our club up in a good light.'"
I should probably have added ....."provided they do not harm the sport, [uor their clubs[/u". Who knows what harm/good, appearances on daytime TV, or running a public Slimmers World, will do? I'm not exactly privy to who is running what on team affairs, but I do know that another 'character' at Salford - a good mate of our owner, I believe, would appear to have let his coach, Ian Watson, get on with things, and a very good job he seems to be doing too!
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| Quote ="Alan"I should probably have added ....."provided they do not harm the sport, [uor their clubs[/u".
Who knows what harm/good, appearances on daytime TV, or running a public Slimmers World, will do?
I'm not exactly privy to who is running what on team affairs, but I do know that another 'character' at Salford - a good mate of our owner, I believe, would appear to have let his coach, Ian Watson, get on with things, and a very good job he seems to be doing too!'"
Exactly that
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| So you're saying its an arbitration with the pot (which I presume both parties have contributed to) being the award.
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| This has something like 500% more views on his website than any other show clip - its at about 50k consider that against the SL highlights of Wigan v Saints at 1.6k. Dinosaurs and RL fans have so much in common
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Some on here are deluded
The centurion can put a photo of anyone at the club on their wall
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I agree that some people are deluded but I doubt they are the same ones you are targeting.
Yes, the Centurion can put up what they want but not everyone agrees on this one, it stands out as a "WHAT?????"
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| Quote ="maurice"This has something like 500% more views on his website than any other show clip - its at about 50k consider that against the SL highlights of Wigan v Saints at 1.6k. Dinosaurs and RL fans have so much in common'"
I'm all in favour of it..Any opportunity to get the name RL mentioned is a bonus.
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| Its two wealthy, intelligent blokes having banter on TV. Think Rinder will have his work cut out to maintain his position of wit today
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| Light hearted banter no shame no gain for both clubs or owners. made me laugh, did the game no harm whatsoever
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| Embarrassing.
Out of the two I thought Marwan came across much better than Derek who just presented himself as cocky and untrustworthy. The one person who came out of it worst of all though was Gaz Hock, who was shown to be duplicitous at best and a downright liar at worst and I wonder if he had any say in those two clowns fighting the case in such a public arena? It just shows that there's nothing Derek won't do to get his face in front of the camera.
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| Quote ="mish"Embarrassing.
Out of the two I thought Marwan came across much better than Derek who just presented himself as cocky and untrustworthy. The one person who came out of it worst of all though was Gaz Hock, who was shown to be duplicitous at best and a downright liar at worst and I wonder if he had any say in those two clowns fighting the case in such a public arena? It just shows that there's nothing Derek won't do to get his face in front of the camera.'"
Saddened to say, Mish, that you are coming across a tad badly in this thread. There is apparently some history 'twixt Derek and your good self, and it is further clear that this arose when your laudable efforts on behalf of the club were not recognised. It is, however, probably a good idea to only criticise the bloke on occasion rather than at any little chance to be had - keeping powder dry usually leads to people cogitating further on your views. Balance!
PS hope you are well?
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| Quote ="mish"Embarrassing.
Out of the two I thought Marwan came across much better than Derek who just presented himself as cocky and untrustworthy. The one person who came out of it worst of all though was Gaz Hock, who was shown to be duplicitous at best and a downright liar at worst and I wonder if he had any say in those two clowns fighting the case in such a public arena? It just shows that there's nothing Derek won't do to get his face in front of the camera.'"
Whatever it is/was you really need to let it go - or as a minimum keep it yourself.
Your not coming out of this very well yourself you know
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| Derek And Marwan were just extras in the Rinder show, he doesn't half love himself. It is the first time I have seen a courtroom where the judge asks the question, gives the answer and asks if it was right. As mentioned above, the three of them didn't do Hock any favours. Trash TV at its best.
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| Marwan and Derek, self made millionaires employing people who provide for their families and grow the wealth of the state being put down by a MB moderator with a huge chip to carry. Only in Leyth.
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| Quote ="Bent&Bongser"Saddened to say, Mish, that you are coming across a tad badly in this thread. There is apparently some history 'twixt Derek and your good self, and it is further clear that this arose when your laudable efforts on behalf of the club were not recognised. It is, however, probably a good idea to only criticise the bloke on occasion rather than at any little chance to be had - keeping powder dry usually leads to people cogitating further on your views. Balance!
PS hope you are well?'"
Just to put the record straight, recognition form Derek was neither wanted or needed as myself and my partner chose to quit running the radio broadcasts when DP was able to do them himself (and I was having increasing problems with my back) nothing more, nothing less. Also the support group had already disbanded as the club was back on it's feet and our services were no longer needed in the same way as they were before the new group took over. We were all happy about that as at times the club was literally hours away from going bust.
You're right though, I do have issues with Derek but not for anything he's done to me, in fact (and I have mentioned this on here before) he once did a really nice thing for my daughter and for that, I thanked him then and I thank him now. That doesn't take away from the fact that I do have issues but unfortunately they aren't things I can write about on here.
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| Well done Marwan for getting the Magic weekend on daytime telly , a bit of fun , provided Mr Rinder with some ammunition
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