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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Fred
Maybe I'd we'd offered the job to Paul as was promised when basil was appointed there would be no danger of breech of contract!
The position of coach is untenable for Blackmore'"
Why would we offer the job when he didn't apply for it, which at the time was surely a signal that he had no intention of becoming head coach, or he'd have applied for the position?! I don't think many people will disagree with you Ste that appointing Rowley would be a great option to have at the minute, but you have to consider the serious long-term ramifications of going back on a contract that has already been agreed.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Fred
Maybe I'd we'd offered the job to Paul as was promised when basil was appointed there would be no danger of breech of contract!
The position of coach is untenable for Blackmore'"
And maybe all this wouldn't have been going on if basil hadn't jumped ship?? we can all do maybe's but facts speak for them selves, The job was advertised - FACT Paul did not apply - FACT The job has been offered to someone else - FACT not rumors or hearsay like Paul was promised the job etc.. only Paul Rowley and the then Chairman who has since departed knows that for sure.
Yes I would like Paul to get the job but don't l;et anyone try and make political headway without having the full story and proof.
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| Isn't one of the stipulations for sooper dooper league entry is that you need a general manager/director of rugby or did I imagine that?
Maybe this is what the applicant will be?
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| Rather than bickering, can we not all agree that Rowley has done a far far better job than anyone expected, so much so that now he's put himself into the odd position of being favourite for the job he didn't apply for?
I did'nt want Rowley, now I do.
Is there not a chance that now Rowley has got the players on his side that if a new coach comes in, they might not perform for them?
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| And can we all agree that it's not just Paul on his own that has got us to this point please.
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| Thank god none of you lot run the club. Knee jerk reactions galore on here. Head Coach and General Manager are two different things altogether. Lets leave it to the people running the club to do their job. You lot just turn up and support the team.
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| Nothing knee jerk, but I will guarantee if RB comes he will have his own ideas and selections. Which will probably effect team morale
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| And you can guarantee this how.
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| Well hes not here and so Ill carry on supporting my team, my coach, my club, lets all do the same, the directors will sort out the situation re the general manager
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| You lot seem to be missing the point.
Not too long ago it was tin rattling and TB saying we need to save money
Well I have one and it will save 25-30k a year
Why appoint a overseas coach???????
When the current team is being coached well
And before you all jump up and down screeching its general manager we need,please tell me what this is and could someone not do it for less from within the club???
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| Because there is a job offer on the table which is legally binding. Just to cacel this now just because we are in a vein of form could cost us three times a much in compensation and court costs.
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| how about this for a scenario, Paul Rowley didnt apply for the job because at the time, the club was fu**ed with no money, no board, no chairman, no team, no wages, no future, and a huge tax bill and probably thought to himself, taking this would be professional suicide even though he was probably offered the job at that time.
Other people who saw beyond this and the potential that Leigh has to further a professional career i.e Blackmore/Adamson/Alker, went through the recruitment process by meeting agred deadlines and are still doing so, regardles of the clubs predicament.
now a few weeks down the line thankfully we have pulled through, recruited a good squad, got the most transparent leadership in place i can ever remember and started to look like a pro-active ambitious club that communicates and likes feedback.
we have a backs to the wall mentality and have put together 3 impressive FRIENDLY wins, thats all albeit with Paul at the helm.
now then what do you think is going through his mind right now???? well i can tell you, it goes like this
"hhmm we have got a good team, a good board, a good youth setup, less money worries, won 3 on the bounce and a good chance to do well this year, i think i might want this job now!!!!!
well im sorry Paul that horse has bolted and you missed the deadlline mate!!!!!
give the job to the best applicant who applied on time when the going was tough!!
dont forget John Stankevitch was also a shoe in but withdrew his application when he realised how fu**ed we were too!!!!
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| Quote ="jesus-is-coming"You lot seem to be missing the point.
Not too long ago it was tin rattling and TB saying we need to save money
Well I have one and it will save 25-30k a year
Why appoint a overseas coach???????
When the current team is being coached well
And before you all jump up and down screeching its general manager we need,please tell me what this is and could someone not do it for less from within the club???'"
Read the General Managers advertisement, that tells you it is far more than a coach. I also read into it that some of the salary will be paid by the LSV as he will be working for them also. If we want our club to progress we have to show some ambition. There are no backers likely to come in in the near to medium future.
I suggest that your problem is not the money thing and more of personal issue
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| Quote ="FredParky"And maybe all this wouldn't have been going on if basil hadn't jumped ship?? we can all do maybe's but facts speak for them selves, The job was advertised - FACT Paul did not apply - FACT The job has been offered to someone else - FACT not rumors or hearsay like Paul was promised the job etc.. only Paul Rowley and the then Chairman who has since departed knows that for sure.
Yes I would like Paul to get the job but don't l;et anyone try and make political headway without having the full story and proof.'"
Correct. As usual the voice of sense Fred.
Rather than randomly accusing people of having 'personal issues' with people like Demon UK.
In my opinion, the second most hostile person on this forum.
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| Quote ="jonny the leyther"Correct. As usual the voice of sense Fred.
Rather than randomly accusing people of having 'personal issues' with people like Demon UK.
In my opinion, the second most hostile person on this forum.'"
So who's the 1 st?
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| Oh the irony!!!
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| Binosh,
Remind who recruited this team ???
If another coach comes in and the players dislike any of his methods the season is likely to implode.
As k the players they will tell you who is in charge.
And my God does ANYONE really believe we would be recruiting a GM if the chosen coach was actually qualified to coach???
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| Tipster Ste, answer me this question if you would,
WHY, did Paul not apply for the job AND why did he go on record stating he didnt want it?
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| I'm with your Ste, I don't think you can guarantee hat the players will not like a new coach/GM, but it's definitely a risk.
I do think that we are in a bit of a tight spot as we have already offered the job to someone else.
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| So now your saying Paul recruited the whole team. If a general manager comes in why do you think he will upset a winning regime? Do you really think that the board would have set out with finding a GM who would upset things at the club. You don't really have a lot of confidense in our board then. The last thing they want is a club at war with each other on top of all the other problems. If or when the GM does turn up people have got to be grown up about it and just get on with getting this club winning more titles. It's not not the Trevour B show or the Paul R show or the Rob P show or any individuals show. It's the Leigh Centurions show.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Binosh,
Remind who recruited this team ???
If another coach comes in and the players dislike any of his methods the season is likely to implode.
As k the players they will tell you who is in charge.
And my God =#FF0000does ANYONE really believe we would be recruiting a GM if the chosen coach was actually qualified to coach???'"
Ste,
Irrespective of whether Richie or Paul should have the job - and I can see a good case for either - I believe we DO need a GM. The admin. staff are thin on the ground, and stretched. The GM position is full time and someone is needed in that role, since Dave Bradshaw left. I would suggest that the last thing PR wants on his shoulders is a crippling burden of admin work. I saw how much Dave Bradshaw had to cope with, and Mike Callaghan before him.
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| if blackmore has been nailed on for the GM job for near on 4months, then why was the job advertised a few weeks ago?.
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| Quote ="j.c"if blackmore has been nailed on for the GM job for near on 4months, then why was the job advertised a few weeks ago?.'"
To prove to the UKBA that there was a GM job vacancy? Don't forget, DB was still working 'part-time' as GM until Xmas.
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| Quote ="Alan"Ste,
Irrespective of whether Richie or Paul should have the job - and I can see a good case for either - I believe we DO need a GM. The admin. staff are thin on the ground, and stretched. The GM position is full time and someone is needed in that role, since Dave Bradshaw left. I would suggest that the last thing PR wants on his shoulders is a crippling burden of admin work. I saw how much Dave Bradshaw had to cope with, and Mike Callaghan before him.'"
I do agree with this.
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| Suppose our board could just give Paul the Head coach role and then appoint a General Manager.
I think that is what is likely to happen.
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