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| Thank goodness for the Review Panel whose ‘expertise ‘ will be able to settle any difference of opinion that exists !
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| Quote ="JENKY"Anyone who watched it on TV know if Higson was hit late (to the head)whilst on the floor in the in goal area in the first half?
On live viewing it looked a poor tackle and expected a card but Thaler didn't pull the player in for a chat and just had a word with the captains and gave Leigh a Pen so mustn't have been as bad as it looked?'"
It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.
What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?
(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).
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| Quote ="71leyther"It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.
What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?
(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"
The replay after the incident shows what happened, contact is with Higson's left arm. There is no contact with the throat whatsoever. The commentators get it just about bang on.
If you pause it on contact you can see that Higson's injury probably occurs as it ends up as a bit of an accidental crusher tackle where higson's head is stuck between the widnes players body and his right arm. At full speed that is a total accident and didn't warrant the reaction it got from the Leigh players.
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| Quote ="71leyther"It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.
What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?
(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"
I suggest you take your spectacles next time, Higson was hit on the arm, anything after was accidental.
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| Quote ="71leyther"It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. =#FF0000The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.
What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?
(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"
No problem '71leyther'.I was near the middle of the West stand, and my eyesight is bad enough without drizzle on me specs. Let's see what the review panel come up with, and settle for that. Like I said, there were plenty of 'robust' challenges from both sides, for the panel to look at!
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| I don't know how high the shot on Higson was, but it was definitely late enough to be considered unnecessary, avoidable and pretty cheap.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"I don't know how high the shot on Higson was, but it was definitely late enough to be considered unnecessary, avoidable and pretty cheap.'"
Late in what sense?
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| I didn't think there was much in the higson incident watching it on tv,looked like it was the widnes players hip that caught his head but very surprised thaler didn't sin bin anyone from widnes for dissent.3 free kick on the bounce for dissent but he soon sent off Brooks when he last reffed us
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Late in what sense?'"
Opposite of early
Watching live (can't bring myself to watch again), it looked like it was grounded before the challenge came in, and wasn't really any attempt at doing anything bar ground the ball, so didn't really need the flop.
If it had been the other way around, I'd have been annoyed at the player for turning a forced GLDO into a conceded penalty.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Opposite of early
Watching live (can't bring myself to watch again), it looked like it was grounded before the challenge came in, and wasn't really any attempt at doing anything bar ground the ball, so didn't really need the flop.
If it had been the other way around, I'd have been annoyed at the player for turning a forced GLDO into a conceded penalty.'"
The player only has a split second to make that decision and Im sure for certain he could not see a clear attempt to ground the ball. I think he is more than entitled to make that tackle and has to play to the whistle.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"The player only has a split second to make that decision and Im sure for certain he could not see a clear attempt to ground the ball. I think he is more than entitled to make that tackle and has to play to the whistle.'"
Having seen it on LCTV, I'm inclined to agree with you. (just this once! ) I'm off to Specsavers tomorrow!!
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| Quote ="Alan"Having seen it on LCTV, I'm inclined to agree with you. (just this once!
) I'm off to Specsavers tomorrow!!'"
I always try and call it as it is.
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| Quote ="Alan"No problem '71leyther'.I was near the middle of the West stand, and my eyesight is bad enough without drizzle on me specs. Let's see what the review panel come up with, and settle for that. Like I said, there were plenty of 'robust' challenges from both sides, for the panel to look at!
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Can Mr Thaler not ask the in-goal ref?
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| Quote ="atomic"Can Mr Thaler not ask the in-goal ref?'"
After the incident he consulted both tj's and the in-goal tj.
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| Quote ="Alan"After the incident he consulted both tj's and the in-goal tj.'"
He got a three wise monkeys response.
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| Nothing in the Higson challenge. It looked a little awkward but it was one of those that looked worse than what it was in my opinion .
The tackling though was sometimes brutal from Leigh and the overuse of energy made us very lethargic and disorganised in the defensive line at times. More efficiency required in the tackle me thinks !
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| Quote ="reffy"He got a three wise monkeys response.'"
Watching the replay, I don't think he gave them much chance to respond, other than to agree with him! I have to say, with the benefit of hindsight, he/they got it right though. Isn't that often the case when you get to see the incident again?
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| Why did our players take exception to the incident and why did Higson go off for a Head test ?
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| We made far too many mistakes in vital areas , Thornley was unlucky to loose possession when he was about to touch following a terrific try scoring pass from Riddy !
Junior Sau will have nightmares thinking of his botched play the ball late in the game when we had the Vikings on the rack !
Oh well typical Leigh we’ll probably put forty on em in couple of weeks !
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| Leigh failing to get to Wembley is part and parcel of being a Leigh supporter unfortunately !
I’ve counted seven occasions now when I’ve seen us on the cusp of a Wembley appearance and we have succeeded only once! I hope I get the opportunity to see us at Wembley in the future as it’s like no other experience I’ve know !
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| Quote ="kirkhall"Leigh failing to get to Wembley is part and parcel of being a Leigh supporter unfortunately !
I’ve counted seven occasions now when I’ve seen us on the cusp of a Wembley appearance and we have succeeded only once! I hope I get the opportunity to see us at Wembley in the future as it’s like no other experience I’ve know !'"
We should have gone at Central Park. But low and behold another wonderful tackle.
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| Quote ="atomic"We should have gone at Central Park. But low and behold another wonderful tackle.'"
Was that the Barry Ledger one, on John Henderson?
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| Quote ="Alan"Was that the Barry Ledger one, on John Henderson?'"
Someone I had the great venture of working with and I mentioned it every day to him Alan.. From the scrum if memory serves me well. Henderson a good 20m start.
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| Quote ="atomic"Someone I had the great venture of working with and I mentioned it every day to him Alan..
From the scrum if memory serves me well. Henderson a good 20m start.'"
And Henderson was no slouch!
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| John Henderson has a serious turn of pace however, he ran like he had blinkers on ! Had he looked to his left he would have Ledger approaching and been able to fend him off till he reached the try line !
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