The 2 points was the first target and reducing the points deficit was the second target. Rochdale are bottom of the League with an average points scored of 14. For a promotion chasing team to leak 32 points to them is not good enough. I

Disappointing today. We switched off after fifteen minutes when we were16 - 0 up. We seemed to think we had the points in the bag. As soon as you do that you can’t get the intensity back into your play. We need a big 80 minutes next week from everyone.

Let’s see how Fev. go on at Swinton tomorrow. I can’t see them lying down tomorrow either, and we could expect a similar outcome. That would mean a points difference deficit of around 50 points going into the last 2 matches. Assuming as we must that Toronto turn over Fev. at home then a Fev win at home to London will just about counter this loss points difference wise. This would leave us 2 home games Swinton and Sheffield to make up 50 points-possible?

Out of our hands, can only win and win big. Swinton lost to 'Dale last weekend. Can't see them pushing Fev tomorrow. Should they do, they might just push us too! Clutching at straws, CL.

It's time to light a candle.

Good evening Bongser, I'm OK ,my mention of our Coach was about Mr Jukes granted he got us promoted,then got us relagated the year after,and was involved with the disastrous start to this season,which is why we are in this position.

Derek showed him to much loyalty we lost 5 of our first 6 games,giving ourselves a mountain to climb then after a winning run of around 10 games we lost to Toronto twice,personally I think we won't make the top 4, though I hope I'm wrong ,we have 2 games left both must wins,hopefully we can pull back the points difference and achieve what Derek and his BoD ,and the fans deserve,which is a Top 4 place, then a good show in the middle 8s.

I went today and the first observation is that the Leigh half backs are so under achieving, their performances are actually bordering on appalling.

This is the first thing that needs to be sorted. By contrast Rochdale's 7, young Danny Yates, was outstanding, marshalling his troops superbly and dictating play. A classy player, MOM for me. Purtil coached him at St.Helens. I would be happy if he offered swap either of our 6 or 7 for him.

Second observation is that we do not have enough players possesing the passion and desire who are prepared to graft from minute 1 to minute 80. Only Harrison Hanson immediately springs to mind. Poor situation.

Third observation is that we are carrying a lot of dead wood, reflective in a team 6th in the Championship. There is no point sugar coating it. The director of rugby surely has some explaining to do.

Clare, Burr, Vea, Drinkwater Vs Dawson, Lovett, Laroyer, Hutchison.

All the former wanted to stay but were told they were surplus to requirements alongside McNally and Ridyard.

I am not sure of the merits of sending out Jack Blagborough on loan all season, whilst retaining Richards in the squad either. Blagborough seems to have more in his locker but that may just be me, and not everyone else's view.

Yes, it was a win, with a late late flurry that give us a 22 point victory margin. It flattered us.

A 22 point win, where the performance made it feel like a defeat.

The table does not lie.

We know Harold.

Bottom line is if we miss the 8s we are in a tough position next season. You need players invested in the club and we let to many go who were. So of theses may become but some not. Whatever our budget next year lets hope we make the right choices. Would get a scrum half and prop for mid 8s if we make it.

Agreed, as we haven't had an actual scrum half all season. Just a 6' 2" utility back.

You mean Greg Richards who you was praising when we first signed him.

You mean the guy selected at 7 for the NRL, his record suggests he is far too good for this level. We made some bad choices but I don't think he is one of them

Nice to have you back, Cokey. Can't find a suitable smiley. Let's try :raised_eyebrow:

G'dang it. Just previewed it and it doesn't work.

But you get the point.

Brian Noble hinted on TV tonight that the Toronto team that takes to the field against Fev in their last game will be basically an inexperienced side, giving the fringe players and young Canadian a chance.

Can see them throwing this, just like HKR did at Fax last year, so Rovers wouldn't have to go to Toulouse in the 8,s.

How he gets the nod before some of our other forwards chomping at the bit, I find baffling!

Looks like your best hope might be Fax beating London then London beating Fev, both unlikely results to be honest. DB might have to dig a bit deeper in the off season.

Yes, the guy currently costing us over £2k a week in wages, who is hardly setting the Championship alight.

Performances indicate he is a very expensive bad choice, who either has not fully recovered from his injury or doesn't want to be here.

£100k a year off our club is not proving to be money well spent to me. Is it to you?

He had youth on his side and clocked up quite a few SL minutes of action behind him.

However his development, down in the Championship has not progressed to the level that I had anticipated at this stage, over 12 months since signing him, despite still being young.

Has it to you .?

A result that makes it even less likely that we'll make the top 4, essentially handing Featherstone an extra point because we're not going to overturn their points difference. Wins for London and Toulouse today will effectively end our chances.

Didn't go to the game today, but can hazard a guess at what happened. Take a lead, then switch off, in exactly the same way as we did Halifax at home, Featherstone away and countless other matches where we've let a team back into a a game that we've been in control of, which is why our points difference is so far behind London, Toulouse and Fev. Not sure why they keep doing it, something rotten at the core of their attitude sadly.

I'd also take a guess that we had at least three sets that we ended by being tackled on the last near their line, without any thought of forcing a repeat set, or even putting any pressure on them at all. Hutchison was a gamble that has ultimately failed, despite the promise that he's shown at times.

We don’t make Top 4 I honestly think DB will pull the plug he nearly pulled it half way through season so no Top 4 he will most certainly walk just like 2005. We should of been putting 50-60 with very little reply yesterday it’s not good enough think we left to much to do hope I’m wrong I really do

The priority is 32 points! Two to go. Don’t worry about us, that’s in the bag.

You’re always wrong..

Monty I said a few weeks ago I didn't think we would make the Top 4,I stand by my forecast, however I personally DON'T think Derek will walk if we don't make it, this Club of ours has to many positives going for it.

We have a great ground and facilities,and most important the BEST bunch of Supporters in this League and some in SL,who would walk to away games on hot coals to see the Centurions, Derek knows this and I think this spurs him on to give the Fans the success they deserve.Wherever we finish at the end of the year wouldn't alter my views on supporting the Club,we all know mistakes have been made on the Coaching side, and signing of players,but like life running a RL CLUB is a gamble.

I'm sure the majority of Leythers won't give up , I know I won't.

Not necessarily, 32 might have been the mark in the past but things can change, especially if 32 goes to PD !

As I said, two to go!

And your always right or the warnings start getting thrown about