How many were there ?you get a good crowd do`nt you.

1700

relegation !

Stop talking rubbish, Leigh will make the top 5


Ill have a wager on that if anyone wants.

We had these same posts last year Vikingman.

I reckon we'll do well to finish above 5th this year personally, I was gearing up for 6th with the thought on progression next year and top 4.

Lets face it in this league 10 wins will get you play-off rugby.
12-15 wins will get top 4.
16+ wins will get top spot.

It's competitive isn't it? There are some good players and teams. And the beauty is yes every team has weaknesses, its not like Super League where everyone plays the same. I see McNally at Haven for example virtually beat Fev on his own today!

I've seen Fev, Halifax, Widnes, Gateshead, Sheffield, Toulouse, Whitehaven, Batley and Leigh. In fact the only teams I've not yet seen in action this season are Barrow and Doncaster.

While home form is crucial, its also about how many wins on the road and bonus points too.

Funnily enough, we are all complaining our pack is too small and lacks power too. It certainly was a problem against Fax. Whilst I'd be disappointed if we don't win on Good Friday, i wouldn't be quite as pessimistic as you seem to be. Batley are good enough to upset a few teams this year.

Mind you, Durbin will have to have improved 100% since he left us to save you.

[code I agree with you. Our right wing was targetted at Sheffield too. I,m sure NK can see it too.

I,d also like to mention the penalties we give away ,which apparently the coaching staff and the playing staff discussed after the Sheffield game.

To give penalties away when we have the ball is plain daft.Maybe the players concerned should watch Fred,s DVD of the game. Infact they all should to see what we speccies thought of their performance.

It,s rare I don,t clap them off at the end of a game but I couldn,t yesterday.[/code

NK has gone on record saying we were 'out-enthused'....and that pee's me off more than anything. We make lack certain skills, certain power, make mistakes but to be 'out-enthused' is simply not acceptable.

That display was pure rubbish its ok signing good young players
if they are Div 1 level but some of our signings this year are knowhere
near that level at this present time We need to invest heavy in a couple of
class players in the main positions centre --half back plus a line breaking forward if we are to bring these young players through Ridyard and several others just are,nt good enough at this present time and to be honest the crowds are,nt going to come back with the this team set up
at Leigh Things got a liitle better yesterday with the introduction of Durbin
it speeded things up and made Watson who in the second half was the stand out player on the field speed his game up resultin in a better performance ... We have injurys and missing players and hopefully with the intro of a couple of new signings things will improve dramaticly but we are a long way off yet with forwards who could,nt break a line of jelly babies never mind a line of oppossing defenders

Agreed. Defeat is acceptable when it's obvious the players have bust a gut (Fev away, for example) but the main reason that we got battered down the middle was because their pack had more enthusiasm than ours.

If i was "out-enthused" at work i have no doubt that i'd be out on my ass in no time but our un-enthused Leigh players will still be playing all season no matter what.......And isnt it NK's job to get them "enthused"?????

But even at Featherstone we were clueless in attack, and as for half back well it just showed when with the introduction of Durbin it allowed Watson more time to be creative and to take on the line more, we need a stand off and at least one centre FAST this would allow AJ to go back to th forwards where he is far more accomplished and at home, for me Rourke and JT are both similiar players, Haggerty should be at 13.
The problems being of course have we any more money in the pot to bring in these players?

Collectively a bad day all round, we should not be out enthused by anyone that’s just not acceptable, we aren’t big enough to take teams on down the middle, we have to play smarter, be quicker at PTB, keep turning big teams around and improve our defensive pattern especially on the right.

Mr Kelly has some work to do this week.

I love reading posts were people say how bad sunday was, i ask how many games a season do they go and how long have they been watching?cos if you saw Ian Lucas's team then you'll never call the curren t side! Get real Leigh win a couple of games and then we play sh*te and its the end of the world typical Leythers!

Agree with that Fred, though the comment was in relation to the enthusiasm (or lack of it on Sunday) of the side - the sheer grit and determination, not to mention quality of defence, made up for the poor attacking play at Fev, but very few positives to take from Sunday's performance.

Just because we’ve played worse previously doesn’t make it acceptable, I can accept defeat, but I expect to walk away saying “Oh well at least we tried our best” yesterday I didn’t, did you?

i have been going for 40 years and i am struggling to remember a worse side.

we have got to get some experience and size in that pack .

i just hope the new signings rumours come true

but at the end of the day they are the only team ive got and i will support them no matter what

Love the ian Tempo lucas quote,but surely we are a better side than that team.we need experience in the forwards,and guile in the backs.i was told that Kelly didnt want durbin our chairman signed him,the way he is treated (durbin)makes me think that is the state of play.I would never BOO the mighty Leigh,but its the closest Ive ever been.come on leythers give the lads your support(and i dont mean a surgical one!)

Well I,ve been watching over 50 seasons and I have seen games which really p me off. Ive seen a lot worse than yesterdays performance but I am not happy with yesterday. We can do better but we didn,t. Thats what is so annoying.

Where did i say that i was happy with yesterday???? The problem is once we lose at home in a poor manner all the dolls go out of the pram and its the end of the world Leythers have always been the same probably always will.
Maybe some new blood before the end of the week will brighten everybodys day

LETS HOPE SO!

NK had a history of losing the dressing room at Widnes, he seems to be going along the same lines here.
If the chairman signed Durbin against NK's wishes then he needs to sort that with AT, if he cant see we need a quicker tempo that Durbin provides then I suggest a career change and specsavers.
He seems to have the same problem with Rudd

Heres my 17

Donlan
Alstead/Maden
Higson
Rudd
Mort
Ridyard
Watson
C Hill
McConnell, 15-20 mins
Morrison
Taylor
Armistead
Marsh

Durbin
Meekin/Hobson
Cookson
Reay

I dont care how bad Cooksons been, we need his 10 min spells.
Stewart steals a living, Haggerty is too small as is rourke.

agree with your mort position
if NK is going to play mort then it has to be on the wing where his defence may not cost us. his kicking is probably worth 6 points a game

Should we go back to sub 1000 gates like we had then, can we grab the blazers back and have a Higgins out campaign as well.
Our ambitions are higher, get real.

well Wigan wont be releasing Prescott as O'Carroll has just been diagnosed as out for 10 weeks so that rumour can be quashed.

Cookson is also weeks away from being fit after an ankle injury the other week

Yesterday was poor, real poor.

I can't seem to find one good aspect of our game nearly all were rubbish (Attack, defence, enthusiasm, gameplan and kicking game). However, I think a few people have had knee-jerk reactions saying "I'm not paying £16 for that dross etc." Yes, I accept it was garbage but are you really expecting ANY team to turn up for every game and play Harlem Globetrotter style rugby and win with ease? The best teams can't do it, never mind Leigh with our young side that will develop throughout the course of the season ready for a more realistic challenge next year.