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| Quote ="ColD"But the club didn’t need the money, just seems a strange arrangement. Can understand with a Halifax type run club - ours has been different.
Rather stick it in the bank than spend for spending sake, it’s like me having so much savings in the bank and having to then buy something for pretty much no reason when it hits a certain level.
Not a member of LISA, and not really bought into this latest “charade” either. Reading comments on the Bradford board that your missus has allegedly stated that the McNally deal is done and dusted, and therefore making the clubs statement a bit of a sham doesn’t help either
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She hasn't stated its a done deal , however she has suggested it should happen now we have so far raised over half of the amount requested
As you aren't a member why do you even care how the money is allocated ? , I'm sure any members who are interested or concerned will ask at the meeting
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"She hasn't stated its a done deal , however she has suggested it should happen now we have so far raised over half of the amount requested
As you aren't a member why do you even care how the money is allocated ? , I'm sure any members who are interested or concerned will ask at the meeting'"
So we don’t need £15k
I care because it affects the club I support, had it left the money in the bank it could have bought 2 Greg McNallys without the club having to beg
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| Quote ="ColD"So we don’t need £15k
I care because it affects the club I support, had it left the money in the bank it could have bought 2 Greg McNallys without the club having to beg'"
Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?
If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?
Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that
Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?
My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?
If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?
Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that
Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?
My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you'"
Yes I do
Derek would
No idea, do the members know where the money went, on what, and how much is in the coffers
If the only people to ‘care’ about the club DONATED, then we’d be heading for a very low attendance this season. Like you say, buggerall to do with me - only supported the club for more than 45 years, thank god you won’t be commenting further on the subject
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"Do you understand the difference between ' should ' , and ' have ' ?
If LISA hadn't given the money for the last 3/4 years then either somebody else would have had to put it in ( Derek ) or we wouldn't have employed as many players ?
Stop acting stupid Col , you are better than that
Let's look at if LISA had stockpiled the cash in say 2015 and had stated they had £ 20K in the bank , do you think the LISA members would have continued donating for the last 3 years ?
My last words on this , if you do ' Care ' about the club , DONATE , otherwise quite simply mate its got buggerall to do with you'"
So basically if you don’t donate you don’t care? What an embarrassing statement, what if someone can’t afford to do so? Its basically guilt tripping or blackmail.
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| Quote ="Draexnael"So basically if you don’t donate you don’t care? What an embarrassing statement, what if someone can’t afford to do so? Its basically guilt tripping or blackmail.'"
Cmon Draexnael give us a break we have been told he has said his last word on the subject. .
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| Quote ="Draexnael"So basically if you don’t donate you don’t care? What an embarrassing statement, what if someone can’t afford to do so? Its basically guilt tripping or blackmail.'"
No , not at all , but if you don't donate , then how and why LISA operates is NONE of YOUR business , if you are too stupid to see that , that's your problem
NOBODY has said it is compulsory , and NOBODY has criticised ANYBODY if they choose not to donate , BUT , if you don't buy a lottery ticket , don't moan about not winning the LOTTERY
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| It's a simple choice and very prudent of the club to work with and promote LISA IMO,
If you want to help the club, come and watch the team and do so.
If you want to join LISA and help the club fund a better team then do so.
If you want to watch better TV than freeview, subscribe to SKY Movies and do so.
If you want to go to the pub, drink beer and socialise do so.
If you can't do any of that then do not.
If you can only do one of the above then do it.
If you don't want to do any of that then don't.
Life is all about making simple CHOICES. Deary me. Talk about a storm in tea cup.
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| Quote ="GUBRATS"No , not at all , but if you don't donate , then how and why LISA operates is NONE of YOUR business , if you are too stupid to see that , that's your problem
NOBODY has said it is compulsory , and NOBODY has criticised ANYBODY if they choose not to donate , BUT , if you don't buy a lottery ticket , don't moan about not winning the LOTTERY'"
Sorry but you are shifting the rugby posts. I don’t care how LISA operates, I do care about blackmail statements. It was a tough decision from my old man to renew his season ticket, I live away from Leigh so can’t go every week. His view is the club has been badly ran for years, lies upon lies have compounded this. He got to a point that the enjoyment was gone, the heart of the club was gone and why should he fork out more money (he sponsored Riddys shorts a few years ago) when it gets frittered away.
This started with a very poorly worded statement on the clubs web-site saying if people signed up to LISA we could afford to sign McNally, i.e. if they don’t he wont sign. Which turns out is a blatant lie. If it said through the fantastic work of the club and LISA we have afforded McNally but further signings could be made easier by you supporting LISA you’d get fantastic buy-in.
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| Quote ="Montyburns"Could not agree more a few people who I have spoke to who usually sponsor players have said they not sponsoring this year as the club getting worse every year wanting more and more'"
Not my understanding if I am honest.
Most sponsors have been appreciative of the loss of £1.5 million central funding and the position we are now in. New sponsors have also come on board for 2019 and I know of one company, aiming for double digit growth this year keen to get involved for 2020.
There is also an understanding that to get back to where we belong we can only work with and reap what we can sow.
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| It is our Town, Our Team.
Ultimately it is the people of Leigh collectively behind it who will decide if the dream can be turned into a reality.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"It's a simple choice and very prudent of the club to work with and promote LISA IMO,
If you want to help the club, come and watch the team and do so.
If you want to join LISA and help the club fund a better team then do so.
If you want to watch better TV than freeview, subscribe to SKY Movies and do so.
=#FF0000If you want to go to the pub, drink beer and socialise do so.
If you can't do any of that then do not.
If you can only do one of the above then do it.
If you don't want to do any of that then don't.
Life is all about making simple CHOICES. Deary me. Talk about a storm in tea cup.'"
At, at last, a sensible suggestion!
Seriously though Harold, you are right - it's all a matter of personal choice. My personal opinion is, that if the club's statement had been worded differently (and coherently) we wouldn't be having this debate/argument now. (just as Draexnael said, afew posts back)
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| The statement was written by a either fool or a con man, either way it seems it was a cheap trick.
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| Halifax type run club - ours has been different.
Can you elaborate on this ?
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| I have joined L.I.S.A over the weekend and so have 3 friends. If it helps long term bringing players in and helping the club survive then so be it . Those that cant afford to put in money are the same as the ones that dont imo , its just a choice thats all . We are all Leigh Fans no matter what !
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| It's easy really.For me it's like this.You either want to support the club or you don't/can't.Either way,whatever you can do to help, or support the club,then i'm sure it will be appreciated ,and hopefully help us move the club forward.Now,i'm sure we've all got our gripes with the club with how it's been run,but that's done and dusted now,so if you want a successful rugby league club in this town,then do what you can to make it happen,and do your bit wherever possible. COYL
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| Quote ="bentleyman"Halifax type run club - ours has been different.
Can you elaborate on this ?'"
It appears to be working on structured growth, where an independent supporters financial input can be built into said structure
We (Leigh) took a gun ho approach with a one man investment that didn’t require the supporters association input
If I’ve read Fax wrong I apologise, but you seem to be working on generated income not one mans clout
Not saying either is right or wrong, just a different way of doing things
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| I looked at the posting on the website that refers to links to go to LISA to sign up but don’t see the links themselves. Anyone else got this problem.
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| Quote ="ColD"It appears to be working on structured growth, where an independent supporters financial input can be built into said structure
We (Leigh) took a gun ho approach with a one man investment that didn’t require the supporters association input
If I’ve read Fax wrong I apologise, but you seem to be working on generated income not one mans clout
Not saying either is right or wrong, just a different way of doing things'"
I appreciate your response nothing to apologise for interesting to read another supporters view looking fwd to seing my Leyther Friends this Season
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"It's a simple choice and very prudent of the club to work with and promote LISA IMO,
If you want to help the club, come and watch the team and do so.
If you want to join LISA and help the club fund a better team then do so.
If you want to watch better TV than freeview, subscribe to SKY Movies and do so.
If you want to go to the pub, drink beer and socialise do so.
If you can't do any of that then do not.
If you can only do one of the above then do it.
If you don't want to do any of that then don't.
Life is all about making simple CHOICES. Deary me. Talk about a storm in tea cup.'"
Spot on !
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| My two pence whether you like it or not.
Context. I contribute to LISA, TSYD & SuperLeigh Lottery + I have put my £25 in to sponsor 2 players & a coach this season *my choice* I have not & will not be renewing my ST this year *my choice* , well, I could have renewed my ST but a fairly recent change in circumstances means that I would then have to cancel all of my other contributions, so partly choice partly circumstance.
This season I will miss a few home games, as I do most seasons, however in previous seasons I have used quite a few days from my annual leave, something I am not prepared to do at our current level, hence no ST but I can still support the Club through other avenues & I will still get to about 70% of home games & 4 or 5 away !
If fans choose a ST alone & zero other contributions it doesn't bother me. If others contribute in other ways but pay on the gate as they go then ditto.
Do I feel the Club could be run better ? Yes.
Do I feel I can change how it is run ? No. *short of a lottery win & a Directorship/Ownership in the Club*
Do I think the Club have played a game/been dishonest regarding McNally ? Absolutely I do !
However, my take is this, the Club have seen on FB etc the groundswell in supporter mood & willingness to contribute & see the comments on getting McNally back & have utilised/exploited this to swell the coffers to sign further players *knowing the McNally deal is already signed sealed & delivered !
Part of me thinks this is disrespectful to fans, dishonest & unethical but another part says "yeah, box clever".
TBH, though I like Greg & sympathise with his personal situation I would rather sign a promising young FB possibly on a smaller contract than Greg might command but if he wears our shirt I will support him.
As others have stated here, it's all down to choices or personal finances ATEOTD & as the Club Owner has pulled his funding then personally I am happy to make extra contributions to stabilise OUR CLUB !!!
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"It's a simple choice and very prudent of the club to work with and promote LISA IMO,
If you want to help the club, come and watch the team and do so.
If you want to join LISA and help the club fund a better team then do so.
If you want to watch better TV than freeview, subscribe to SKY Movies and do so.
If you want to go to the pub, drink beer and socialise do so.
If you can't do any of that then do not.
If you can only do one of the above then do it.
If you don't want to do any of that then don't.
Life is all about making simple CHOICES. Deary me. Talk about a storm in tea cup.'"
Words of Wisdom H, life really is simple
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| Lisa are now 200 members better off than a week ago, that's 200fans who wanted to help their club by putting in an extra £5 per month, the great thing they have done is make the ISA much stronger going forward and the club to project much higher income from this stream
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