Three trophies Scubes - NRC 2013 dont forget

I would like to put on record my agreement with my dear friend Maurice.

Well at least we are making the headlines again and that can only be good news for Leigh. www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -and-leeds It even mentions MoiMoi.

Well at least we are making the headlines again and that can only be good news for Leigh. www.sportinglife.com/rugby-leagu ... -and-leeds It even mentions MoiMoi.

Apparently Barlow has a 2 year offer on the table from Leeds with both players wanting to speak to Leeds but not getting permission from Leigh. Transfer requests may also have been turned down. Its a while since a transfer went to tribunal so will be interesting to see the outcome. I think Leigh would get a decent fee for Brierley but not too much for Barlow.

There's nothing to have a tribunal about. Both players are clearly contracted to the club, if we decide not to sell then they don't leave until their contracts are done.

It's sounds to me that we as a club are positioning ourselves to not have all our talent cherry-picked, and I agree with the standpoint. We have signed players up and they are obligated to the club for the duration of that contract. If they want to take their ball home then they can enjoy reserve rugby for a while.

How does he get a 2yr offer without his contract holder sanctioning anything?

Illegally.

Although it's ok, Barlow's mum phoned Leeds first

So not one person is telling the truth then, how about your source?

Hull FC have offered us a diamond encrusted crystal skull for Liam Kay but Derek says it wouldn't look right next to the GF trophy, plus we need to make sure we've got plenty of room for more trophies.

Ive no idea who is telling the truth all I can add is that my source is the same person who told me that Sam had signed for Leigh. I think it may have been Andy I ended up arguing with on here after Leigh came out and denied he had signed even though the contract had been signed long before that denial. It will be interesting to see how this plays out though.

Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Apparently Barlow has a 2 year offer on the table from Leeds with both players wanting to speak to Leeds but not getting permission from Leigh. Transfer requests may also have been turned down. Its a while since a transfer went to tribunal so will be interesting to see the outcome. I think Leigh would get a decent fee for Brierley but not too much for Barlow.'" I have no idea about whether any of the speculation about any of the leigh players, I can answer your question about the fees: Quote C1:3:17 Where a transfer is to take place pursuant to Operational Rule C1:3:16 above and the two Clubs are unable to reach agreement then the following scale of payments shall apply: Player moving from Championship to Super League. A sum equivalent to the sum of £70 per week of training and education invested in the Player and a further lump sum of £5,000 if the Player attains a salary of £25,000 per annum or more with the new Club. Player moving from Super League (or from a Championship Club running an RFL Endorsed Academy) to Super League. A sum equivalent to the sum of £115 per week of training and education invested in the Player and a further lump sum of £5,000 if the Player attains a salary of £25,000 per annum or more with the new Club. Player moving from Championship to Championship (regardless of whether either Club runs an Endorsed Academy and where the Guaranteed Payment under the Player’s contract with the new Club is at least 50% higher than the Guaranteed Payment under his most recent contract with his previous Club) a fee will be paid which is equivalent to a sum of £60 per week of training and education invested in the Player Player moving from Super League to Championship. A fee will be paid which is equivalent to a sum of £70 per week of training and education invested in the Player In all cases training and education is deemed to start from the date on which the Player signs a professional contract with the Club and end on 30 November after the Player reaches the age of 21 and to last for 52 weeks each year. Payments which fall due when a Player reaches a salary of £25,000 per annum or more are not payable if the Player achieves that salary with a Club other than the one who paid the initial payment under the formula (other than if the Player is on loan at the time he achieves that salary). '" www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1

Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Apparently Barlow has a 2 year offer on the table from Leeds with both players wanting to speak to Leeds but not getting permission from Leigh. Transfer requests may also have been turned down. Its a while since a transfer went to tribunal so will be interesting to see the outcome. I think Leigh would get a decent fee for Brierley but not too much for Barlow.'" I have no idea about whether any of the speculation about any of the leigh players, I can answer your question about the fees: Quote C1:3:17 Where a transfer is to take place pursuant to Operational Rule C1:3:16 above and the two Clubs are unable to reach agreement then the following scale of payments shall apply: Player moving from Championship to Super League. A sum equivalent to the sum of £70 per week of training and education invested in the Player and a further lump sum of £5,000 if the Player attains a salary of £25,000 per annum or more with the new Club. Player moving from Super League (or from a Championship Club running an RFL Endorsed Academy) to Super League. A sum equivalent to the sum of £115 per week of training and education invested in the Player and a further lump sum of £5,000 if the Player attains a salary of £25,000 per annum or more with the new Club. Player moving from Championship to Championship (regardless of whether either Club runs an Endorsed Academy and where the Guaranteed Payment under the Player’s contract with the new Club is at least 50% higher than the Guaranteed Payment under his most recent contract with his previous Club) a fee will be paid which is equivalent to a sum of £60 per week of training and education invested in the Player Player moving from Super League to Championship. A fee will be paid which is equivalent to a sum of £70 per week of training and education invested in the Player In all cases training and education is deemed to start from the date on which the Player signs a professional contract with the Club and end on 30 November after the Player reaches the age of 21 and to last for 52 weeks each year. Payments which fall due when a Player reaches a salary of £25,000 per annum or more are not payable if the Player achieves that salary with a Club other than the one who paid the initial payment under the formula (other than if the Player is on loan at the time he achieves that salary). '" www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1

Operational rule C1:3:3
A Club or Licensed Agent or other person acting on a Club's behalf shall not approach any Contract Player or Conditional Contract Player directly or indirectly (which shall include statements made to the media) until 1st May prior to the date upon which the Player's contract is due to expire without receiving the prior written consent of the Club to whom the Player is contracted and such consent shall not be unreasonably withheld or delayed. Where such consent is withheld the Club wishing to make the approach may appeal to the RFL who shall be the final arbitrator. Both Clubs shall have the opportunity to make submissions to the RFL in the timescale set by the RFL. From 1st May prior to the expiry of his current contract any Club shall be entitled to enter into a contract with such Player subject to the compensation rules set out in these Operational Rules.

Well I don't care as Derek says there's no one for sale !!!!

Leeds will have to wait 2 years for Ryan and 5 for Sam as it's stands

Do you want a charity bet that the big man lines up for us against Bradford?

Not really, no. Ive learnt over the years that speculation surrounding Sam a lot of the time comes from his agent and isnt always strictly true.

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"I have no idea about whether any of the speculation about any of the leigh players, I can answer your question about the fees: www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1'" Am I reading that correctly that if it went to tribunal then Leigh would be due pretty much nominal fees for both players. I could understand that in Barlows case because of his history and I guess already been a full international but would think it would be different for Brierley?

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"I have no idea about whether any of the speculation about any of the leigh players, I can answer your question about the fees: www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1'" Am I reading that correctly that if it went to tribunal then Leigh would be due pretty much nominal fees for both players. I could understand that in Barlows case because of his history and I guess already been a full international but would think it would be different for Brierley?

The key to the fee would be the bit I copied as they never got permission

Quite a turnaround thought he had a 2 year deal waiting at the most successful SL club?

I welcome the club statement on Ryan. (and Sam) So much speculation, amongst Leigh and Leeds fans, has been generated by the rumours and the club statement has firmly nailed that speculation.

For those of us who crave for information about our club, the statement answered all our questions, and more besides! It strikes me that we can't complain about lack of information about the club, and then complain when we get it!

No, actually. Leigh would be able to report Leeds (or anyone else) for poaching and the offending team would be punished as per the rules set out by the section you posted (which may or may not include financial compensation, I suppose it depends on the particulars of the case) BUT the fee would still be disputed and set out as I posted (I haven't worked out precisely how much it would be because I don't know the particulars).

Of course, that doesn't stop a settlement through the courts ala Harris, leeds vs Bradford etc.

You must have mis-read what I typed as I don't recall saying he had signed for them.

getting boring now Greg ......

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"I have no idea about whether any of the speculation about any of the leigh players, I can answer your question about the fees: www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1'" Re your first post on this thread I don't get the peanuts a week for training and education of the transferee. I also think even an Einstein would struggle to understand that rule you quoted. Not having a go at you but it just does not look realistic to me.Maybe I am just thick.

Quote ="Magic Superbeetle"I have no idea about whether any of the speculation about any of the leigh players, I can answer your question about the fees: www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... section=E1'" Re your first post on this thread I don't get the peanuts a week for training and education of the transferee. I also think even an Einstein would struggle to understand that rule you quoted. Not having a go at you but it just does not look realistic to me.Maybe I am just thick.

It won't go to tribunal Derek says they're going no where I believe him