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| Disciplinary hearing would follow suspension, doubt a 7 month gap would be reasonable
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| Someone appears to be getting confused with suspension vs being told not to train with first team as they wont be selected.....
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| Employment Law is never quite as cut and dried as people think and often things only become clear once someone has actually gone to an employment tribunal, but as most cases get settled out of court people think such and such must be right because they paid up, when often it’s just easier to pay them off and get shut. Allardyce as just walked away with an alleged £1 million from his employer did his employer do anything wrong or need to pay anything?
It is quite feasible that BB contracted duties not only included playing but community and commercial work, if he has been disciplined by the club for perhaps let’s say playing the wrong tunes in the changing rooms, then they could say we are suspending you from that aspect of your duties however you will continue to work for the company in the other roles and are free to train elsewhere or on your own. Even if he wasn’t contracted to do other duties the company could still put him on other duties if they feel he is unable to fulfil his original duties, in the same way as a company who employs a delivery driver but he then gets band or ill health stops him from driving they could offer he a role in packing, rather than sack him for not fulfilling his contracted duties, he could of course if he didn’t want to do those duties resign, but most take up the new role at least until they find alternative employment.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Someone appears to be getting confused with suspension vs being told not to train with first team as they wont be selected.....'"
LOL you're just an idiot.
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| Quote ="glow"Employment Law is never quite as cut and dried as people think and often things only become clear once someone has actually gone to an employment tribunal, but as most cases get settled out of court people think such and such must be right because they paid up, when often it’s just easier to pay them off and get shut. Allardyce as just walked away with an alleged £1 million from his employer did his employer do anything wrong or need to pay anything?
It is quite feasible that BB contracted duties not only included playing but community and commercial work, if he has been disciplined by the club for perhaps let’s say playing the wrong tunes in the changing rooms, then they could say we are suspending you from that aspect of your duties however you will continue to work for the company in the other roles and are free to train elsewhere or on your own. Even if he wasn’t contracted to do other duties the company could still put him on other duties if they feel he is unable to fulfil his original duties, in the same way as a company who employs a delivery driver but he then gets band or ill health stops him from driving they could offer he a role in packing, rather than sack him for not fulfilling his contracted duties, he could of course if he didn’t want to do those duties resign, but most take up the new role at least until they find alternative employment.'"
This.
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| Seems like people still like to go looking for a smoking gun as a result of Rowley's morals and ethics interview...
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| Seems Glows and Tipsters posts fit together quite well actually Mish, so you were probably a little harsh on Tipster. So I would say at this point nothing to see here and we move on, onwards and upwards.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"Seems Glows and Tipsters posts fit together quite well actually Mish, so you were probably a little harsh on Tipster. So I would say at this point nothing to see here and we move on, onwards and upwards.'"
Don't be so patronising, Tricky was way off the mark (as usual) and Glow was bang on. The two posts are poles apart.
Now why don't you just run along.
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| Then again, he may have been suffering an achilles injury? Who knows, eh?!
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| Quote ="glow"often things only become clear once someone has actually gone to an employment tribunal, but as most cases get settled out of court people think such and such must be right because they paid up, when often it’s just easier to pay them off and get shut. '"
& sometimes an employer or organisation do not want their dirty linen aired in public, especially if they are morally or in fact just plain corrupt.
I have known a guy who walked away with exactly what he wanted, given that he could have taken several managers diwn with him & exposed the organisations dirty tactics.
This is the whistle blower era we live in now, I wouldn't hesitate to go public if the need arose.
*nothing wrong with your post Glow* just another angle to consider from experience*
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| Quote ="mish"LOL you're just an idiot.'"
Cheers love, you forgot highly paid before the word idiot....
All the best
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| Quote ="mish"Don't be so patronising, Tricky was way off the mark (as usual) and Glow was bang on. The two posts are poles apart.
Now why don't you just run along.'"
I will not run along thank you very much. Nothing patronising. Just pointing out they both said similar things. Now stop trying to stir up trouble and run along dear. There is that patronising enough. Bye
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| Quote ="Alan"Then again, he may have been suffering an achilles injury? Who knows, eh?!'"
Take something at face value?! Don't be ridiculous!
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| Quote ="mish"I'm replying and responding to others - and just because I'm a lone voice doesn't mean I'm wrong.'"
In "1984", Orwell defines an idiot as a minority of one. Probably best not to paint others as idiots. Just a THOUGHT!
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| Oh dear oh dear oh dear, they're all coming out of the woodwork now aren't they? I'm not going to expand further other than to say just remember this conversation further down the line.
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| Quote ="mish"Oh dear oh dear oh dear, they're all coming out of the woodwork now aren't they? I'm not going to expand further other than to say just remember this conversation further down the line.'"
Which bit, Bob being suspended?
who cares if he was or not, we moved on a year ago and who cares what comes out further down the line. He was a warrior for us im sure he will enjoy his time at Toronto, meanwhile we are off to SL..
Why are you even trying to stir up nonsense? Find a hobby it will do you a world of good.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Which bit, Bob being suspended?
who cares if he was or not, we moved on a year ago and who cares what comes out further down the line. He was a warrior for us im sure he will enjoy his time at Toronto, meanwhile we are off to SL..
Why are you even trying to stir up nonsense? Find a hobby it will do you a world of good.'"
So why is there 6 pages of thread if no one cares? I simply stated the FACT that Bob, was suspended.
And given the FACT that you're on social media more than me, I suggest that you take your own advice and get yourself a nice little hobby.
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| This all reminds me of the following:-
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon........no matter how good you are the bird is going to on the board and strut around like it won anyway. (George Orwell)
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| Quote ="DemonUK"This all reminds me of the following:-
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon........no matter how good you are the bird is going to poop on the board and strut around like it won anyway. (George Orwell)'"
Animal Farm?
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| Quote ="DemonUK"This all reminds me of the following:-
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon........no matter how good you are the bird is going to poop on the board and strut around like it won anyway. (George Orwell)'"
I must admit I love this quote.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"This all reminds me of the following:-
Arguing with idiots is like playing chess with a pigeon........no matter how good you are the bird is going to poop on the board and strut around like it won anyway. (George Orwell)'"
LOL you reckon you're good?
Here's another phrase for you:
Self praise is no recommendation
and especially for you and Tricky
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Now then, if we've all finished with the childish insults can we move on to a new topic? You choose.
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| Here's a quote from NASA
"The egos have landed"
This thread typifies what's bad about this forum, individual bickering that really is boring for 99% of the people but most threads on here are like neighbours talking over the fence.
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| Quote ="mish"LOL you reckon you're good?
Here's another phrase for you:
Self praise is no recommendation
and especially for you and Tricky
There are none so blind as those who will not see.
Now then, if we've all finished with the childish insults can we move on to a new topic? You choose.'"
I'll say this quietly Mish...you were actually the first person to start the childish insults but your right let's move on.
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| Quote ="mish"?...... I haven't been to a game for more than a year because of health reasons............Someone started a post about Bob Beswick....'"
Achilles, Mish? Now we're back on thread
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| Have you all finished? You can pick on me all you like because I don't follow the party line, but the one thing I've never been is a sheep or scared of speaking out and all I said is that he was suspended. Since then I have been called a liar and a trouble maker and as such have had to defend myself but it doesn't alter the fact that Bob (and the others) were suspended. Now if you can find evidence that I'm wrong I'll happily apologise but until then this thread is closed.
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