but they HAVEN'T got that bad. from the other end of the pitch i could see a great mix of blue n white and red n white each taking their turn to cheer their team as they scored.
fax and leigh fans stood shoulder to shoulder


dont let one or two ignorant scroates spoil one of the things that makes our sport better than soccer.
As i have said elsewhere if you know these idiots name and shame them.
Maybe next time they do it if you dont know their name get a quick photo of them (who hasnt got a camera phone these days) and pass that on to the club.
We as fans of the club should be doing our bit as well, not just moaning on here afterwards about how the stewards did or didn't react.

We have ten or so morons, racist no brains who think its big and clever. Not adult enough to enjoy wit and banter with fellow RL fans from other clubs. Name them and ban them before we all get tarred with the same brush. In the west you saw or heard nothing btw.

Performance was patchy, losing 3 forwards for the game on 15 mins was always going to be a tough ask, Taylor/Nash shouldnt have come back on.
Fax played the ref well, slowed the ptb and moved off the mark, was Beswick ever onside?
Fax had too much pace when they got to the fringe and supported breaks in numbers, we somehow kept in the game and the turning point was Hilly having the ball ripped 1 on 1, scored then and we would have won.
Suprised we came back at the end with having no bench but has proved that with DC's we are GF material without we are top 6, just.
Knowing the injuries we had I predicted Fax by 20, so I am very happy with a bonus point. We need to find a player quickly because we must win the NRC and Hunslet will be no pushovers.

Well said that man.......The North stand needs to be a no no for away supporters...end of.
I think that would be better at The Shay as well then we could experience your 800 plus at the other end.
Nothings ever simple in Rugby League is it,thats what makes it what it is....

Why did they open the south stand yesterday and then cram everyone into the west stand? we ended up two rows from the front and missed a lot at the north end due to view being blocked by dug outs.

They certainly didn't open it for us,thats a given!

it was for tickets that had been given out to clubs and schools i think

Good god, I am glad that I was in the boxes this week after reading everything that has gone on



A few idiots can seriously affect our clubs image



Whoever knows these morons must make the information to the club so it /they can be dealt with.

I have e-mailed the club about what I saw. Surely it was seen on CCTV.

I was in the North stand.....what is it that happened ? I heard and saw nothing.

I have a season ticket in the West Stand (South) and like to sit there with friends and aquantancies however, the last two Home games against Fev and Fax have felt like away games! Full marks to Fev and Fax for being so well supported however, what difference is there between Widnes fans and Fax and Fev? (clean answers only please!)

Widnes are given the South Stand and it makes for a good atmosphere also, I'd have liked to have sat in the 'New' Stand at Fax but £18 is a bit steep IMHO


Lets 'Confine' away supporters in the South Stand or the East Stand in future then I and others, can sit amounst their friends!

I've been saying the same thing all week mate. South stand should be named 'away supporters stand' It should be the same price as the North Stand though. I was talking to a Fax fan who said he and his mates had been seperated and couldn't meet up. A lot of aggro for what is such a simple solution.

Well, we were sat amongst a group of Leigh fans and they were great. We had great banter and there was a great mutual understanding. We had good conversations about the folly of franchising and discussed the sleep walking currently being carried out at Widnes. We mulled over some decisions of the referee and laughed together at the incredulous events surrounding Nanyn's kick offs. Apart from the strange accents (what's in yer par lad?) =#0000FF(Trans: What sort of pie have you got) i thought they were a great bunch and it would be a shame if separation came into play. I'd still like to think that we're not soccer.

I was in the North stood next to a family from Fax, we chatted frequently about the game, applauded good tries from both teams and had a laugh together at half time.

I saw a young lad from fax go to the stewards, and then the steward went up into the stand behind us, couldn't really see who he went to, nor did I hear or see anything, but obviously something had gone on.

I'm all for home fans only in the north but only because I think it improves the atmosphere, when away fans are grouped together, even home fans don't want their afternoon spoiled by idiots, I hope whoever saw what went on report it and the club/lsv take the action of banning them, we don't need them.

I absolutely detest anyone who disagrees with me and refuse to talk to them. Away fans as far away as possible in my view.

thats Frank in the East stand by himself then

You`ll fall out with him Fred.........

This my take on the events of yesterday and thoughts on segregation


Just a guess as I said , I was stood behind the sticks so canot be 100 % , Usually harmless , although still stuck in the 80 ,s to a degree

Racism isn't something we have had to any great degree no matter what VM says , hopefully just a one off due to the bank holiday

As for fans not being segregated , I'm ok with it although I would prefer them to be grouped together as they tend to support their clubs better , and that makes for a better atmosphere , the problem comes from 2 things though

1 When the whistle goes as far as I am concerned all hostilities end , just as it does on the pitch , some unfortunatley cannot switch off [ this applies to some fans of all clubs

2 There are 2 types of vocal support , positive , ie trying to inspire your team , [Come on Leythers/Fax /Rovers , we love you leythers /Fax /Rovers , and negative , where you are insulting the opposition support , [ Sheep sh******, wan** Lancashire

When you get large numbers of both fans in one stand the negative stuff can inflame the atmosphere , especially if the match is a little tasty as well , separate the fans by 100 yards of grass and you have less chance of people getting upset by the negative stuff

Either way there is no place for racism , and hopefully the point will be made , but once again there are difficulties in playing in a stadium you dont own/run , at HP the club were in charge of the stewarding and could be a bit more shall we say flexible/forceful in dealing with this type of stuff , as you yourselves know , getting a council to do any sort of difficult job is pretty much impossible

I do hope those that have said they will never return to the LSV think again , it would be a shame if these few people were to spoil your enjoyment of sport you follow and your team who really do deserve all the support [ and more they get for playing some excellent RL

Hopefully see you all again at some time during the season

Very well put Mr Starbug.

Just want to add that terracing in stadiums do tend to add to the atmosphere in a positive way, but the negative side is people are less inhibitive than when in a seated area, and sometimes fueled by a bit of drink.
Starts off harmless and then......

Don`t know whether being in a seated position is a condition of less inhibitive actions...........Folks in cars seem to disprove that theory...

True - but the idiots in the cars are usually on their own. Question - I saw a bloke who had got out of his car at the lights in Atherton to tell the driver in front of him that "He was a effing @rsehole" - which one is the @rsehole there really ?

Made me laugh at the time anyway.
The point is (normal people anyway) people are more self conscious when sat down, than when stood up.

Not necessarily so( was n`t that a line from a communards song )

Maybe both????????

You`ll have to define "normal people".......

Don't get me wrong, I like the vast majority didn't witness anything wrong on sunday (with the exception of the result).
The fact someone in the ground experienced a problem says we(fans/club/stadium managment) act on it.

The obvious is a ban, the next obvious is to reduce the risk.

Unfortunatly in 2010 a lot of UK people cannot keep a check on there emotions for very long, throw in the mixture of alchohol and I can honestly say despite it being honurable and something thats gone on in History is it really worth the risks these days , especially when one of the advantages give us a much more balanced atmosphere enhancing the matchday experience not detracting from it.

if you find yourself in with the opposition fans in football, and you shout for your team you will most probably get turfed out even tho you have paid top dollar to get in. Do we really want to get like that?
How do you stop away fans mixing anyway - membership cards like football? Does the tribal element come into it when the scummy 3 becomes more, and wearing your colours suddenly becomes I better not today while X team is in town.

Brilliant point, my brother is a bolton fan and when he goes to away games he has to wear a big jacket even when it is hot to cover up his bolton shirt until he's in the actual ground. He's learned from past experience that just wearing his shirt outside some grounds is enough to start trouble from other fans.

The friendly banter between fans is one of the greatest things about our sport and we need to do everything we can to stop these sorts of problems from creeping into RL!

It doesn't have to be '200 stewards stood between you' segregation, but 'advised segregation' where there is a recognised spot for away fans - we already have this at Widnes where the majority go behind the sticks but plenty go along the side, while there is effectively self-segregation at the grounds where you can switch ends.