Do whatever makes you happy.

I doubt that my idea of them going out doing small jobs would tally with yours.

I dont follow....?

Really?

Really.

If you believe that is how the travelling ones normally work then fair do's, my experience is one of emptying diesel from vans overnight and leaving a right sheete tip behind them

gyp0's are a horrible breed of creatures who bring nothing but trouble what do they give back to society seriously.........nothing! As a kid I've been attacked by them on matter lane site, had my car vanalised them when working in strettford & the same has happened with my brothers car too in wiggin recently. They are not nice people with no common decency towards people & the enviroment they invade I'd be glad to see the back of them but unfortunately they're here to stay.

I think you'll find people like that wherever you go, I've been attacked upleigh, had my van broken into and the mirror kicked off my car in the last few years, non of the people responsible were Gypsies, they were all born and bred in Leigh, so does that make you and me a 'horrible breed of creatures'?

You can't tar everybody with the same brush, I knew it wouldn't be long before the casual racism kicked in.

Has anybody actually spoken to any of them?

Gypsies are not a race, they are groups of rootless, itinerant opportunists who generally create problems wherever they go.

I suppose that all depends on your definition of 'race', however, I do believe that your posts are based merely on the reputation that's been portrayed recently in the media, rather than by fact.

I think we should embrace our new friends, wish them well and get to know them, if they have no knowlege of rugby league I certainly wouldn't begrudge them receiving some form of dispensation from our BOM and gaining entrance to a few games with a price reduction on admission.

Does anybody know if they've brought any horses or ponies with them? Wouldn't mind taking my niece up at the weekend to go and see them if they have.

I have had ' contact ' with them several times, I have witnessed their mating rituals ( men dragging their wives/girlfriends across a pub floor by their hair ) and have several times been verbally threatened by them for nothing more than pointing out that my van was not for sale , just to then be told '" We'll just take it anyway "

I have seen 1 st hand the results of their ' work ' both on peoples drives and roofline, they have no scruples whatsoever and are happy to prey on the old and vunerable

As for their disgusting habit of leaving rubbish including human and animal waste wherever they stay, I have also seen several cases of that

If you think they really do make an honest living you are welcome to invite them to do a job for you, best of luck

Steve do any of them play Poker ?The Centurion is only just down the road

Frank can teach them .

I suppose it all comes down to personal experiences with them, I've worked with them in previous lines of work and found them no trouble at all, regarding their 'mating rituals' I'm afraid 200 years of tradition isn't going to be broke anytime soon and there are FAR worse things going on in other cultures every minute of every day that we turn a blind eye to, and I've just been reading a Manchester Evening News article about three loansharks that targeted old people and vulnerable single mums with threats of violence etc, doesn't mean everybody in Manchester is like that.

Opinions are like a**eholes I suppose. Everyones got one.

I will invite a few down on Tuesday if I make it to the site at the weekend, seem to remember playing pool in the Ellesmere last year with a couple of them the last time they were down here.

Thats the thing, ALL my experiences have been negative, the incident in the pub was just fortunate that I convinced 2 other people I was with not to intervene, as the bar staff that did were threatened , and it was only fortunate that the police arrived a couple of minutes after the group of ' friends ' returned to exact retribution for that intervention

They have been served with eviction orders but have so far ignored them

Have they paid for a skip to put their rubbish in as I have had to do ?

Lets hope the LSV is not left like this www.leighlife.com/index.php?acti ... m;in=22713

Lets hope the LSV is not left like this www.leighlife.com/index.php?acti ... m;in=22713

Did you see any horses?

There are some on Nel Pan Lane , and some just off the by pass near the crematorium, or are gypsy horses different to others?

I assume they have nicer cars.

There must be a big wedding near by as the LSV isn't the only place they are gathering. They have yearly gatherings don't they when they get together . Could be a big bare knuckle do.

I've been told tonight by someone who works at the LSV that the travellers have said they are attending a christening on Saturday and won't be moving on until Monday. Obviously after getting drunk until the early hours of Sunday morning, they won't be in a fit state to drive off the site until Monday morning.

Jimmy85, you are Mr P Ikey and I claim my £5.

Well whatever else they are obviously devout Christians.

Sorry, time to put an end to this thread.

If you wish to continue discussing this please find another place to do so.