Frank as usual

is right, the RFL have ruined the game. We are not going to get people paying £16-18 to watch glorified friendlies by just putting messages out on twitter and such. I still attend every game home & away but just don't get excited about the game anymore and find myself having to force myself into attending ( never thought that day would come ) I really don't know the answers into getting more people to attend but Fev seem to be pulling in decent crowds so it shows it is still possible. I think fri night will be a better attendance & no doubt corporate will also do better so can see a lot more games moving back to fri nights. ( maybe sat tea time should be given a crack ) to be honest if they do no-one can complain as the first 2 Sunday afternoon att have been awful & I don't buy the weather & opposition excuses, people just have better ways to spend their Sundays now which as become a way of life ( my pref is sun afternoon by the way but if fri are better than so be it ) I also agree we should never have judged are budgets on crowds of 1800 in this current climate and I know we haven't spent a fortune on the squad but have obv spent too much again, not forgetting 2 weeks ago we signed John o Donnell on a 1yr deal when they must have known we were potentially in trouble again. It is fantastic that LISA have yet again come to the rescue but this cannot keep happening every season. In this current structure and economic climate I really do fear for our long term survival.

Fev seem to be the only club who are getting it right with improved attendances and good atmosphere.
This can't be all down to their success on the field-we are not that much worse.
What are they doing that others are not?

Also last week my brother attended a character breakfast at he park inn hotel, and parky pig made an appearance handing out vouchers for 1 adult & 1 child for £10 to any game. Now this is a fantastic offer and one that should be advertised and shouted from the rooftops, get parky on the stall at market giving these out get the offer out to as many folk as possible, we are either serious about filling the ground more or not. Apart from my brother getting these vouchers ( he was aloud as many as he wished ) I would never have known about this, does anyone else out there know about these ??

Player needed on stall Saturday after training for a hour or so giving out vouchers possibly?

it needs to be constant though not just an hour 1 week!! not always a player as they have jobs etc!

They need to get younger people used to going every week without fail once they are in that routine they would hopefully then want to go and not see it as a chore!

People go on about it costing money to do this but if they are targeting people who would not otherwise go then its turnover that is otherwise lost regardless if it is half the price of a notmal ticket!!

People staying away because of lack of atmosphere due to lack of fans are only adding to the problem .You can't state more fans are needed then stay away it doesn't make sense to me and as for atmosphere I haven't found a ground in the championship to have any more atmosphere than the LSV even Fev with their fan base .

I can say that and I did, I didn't say I am staying away due to lack of atmosphere, what I said was that a better atmosphere is needed and yes more people are needed for that. Catch 22? Slightly, but it can be done!

To me, Friday and Saturday nights would be better, target people with cheap/free tickets or if they buy x number of tickets they get a free/cheap drink, if a group of mates were going before a night on the pop then they would also spend at the bar, get them in a regular routine of going, I know not all would do it every week but even if 1 or 2 continued every week its a start. But the club need to be constantly doing this, not just getting a target 1 season and think theyve cracked it!

Thanks for being honest leyther always

I started a thread a while ago to gauge non attendees like me,to see what there reasons were some replied some avoided the question.

As I said then,I have fell out of love with the game,the structure, the way the rules are evolving.

I don't want to see 46-38 score lines thats not rugby league

THE GAME AS CHANGED FROM THE GAME i FELL IN LOVE WITH

And that sadly is one of the underlining faults coupled with this franchise nonsense were clubs cannot grow they are stifled by there rules.

The same rules that stifle investment in the game

So[I hope it doesn't happen if the league we play in this year collapses perhaps the leaders of our game will take notice and change it.

But now we are just a feeder league twined with super league clubs.

I cannot bring myself to pay top dollar for a reserve league for a sport I barely recognise from the so called bad old days

I know things need to change re getting the fans in the ground and as has been said better weather and who we play will be a factor and this Friday should tell us that .On getting the message across to new/lapsed fans nothing and I mean nothing is ever seen regarding the Leigh matches around Atherton ,not everyone gets the Journal/Reporter. Posters in shop windows could help there are enough businesses in Atherton I'm sure some would oblige a job for Rob Parker maybe, to ring them up and ask .Someone posted that Parky pig was giving out tickets for a tenner ,who new about this i certainly didn't and the town of Atherton and surrounding areas probably didn't .

Presumably the club have on their database the names of people who haven't renewed their season ticket this year or last, get Rob and a few others going and knocking on the door with these vouchers, ask the reasons why they haven't been and try to sell it to them. If you do 20 houses on a Saturday afternoon and a five decide to come back then it is a step towards reaching the 400. Then the next week ring up and ask if they went, if so did they enjoy it. If not why not. Surely that will be more effective than sticking a poster up outside a pub which will go unnoticed, or pushing a leaflet through the door which will end up straight in the bin.

Couldnt agree more JIC although i may be only a wipper sanpper to some and only had an ST from circa 2001 onwards the game has changed so much, not all bad I must say but the things that have changed for the worse are too frustrting!!



Agree with this also the club need to get out and promote this, they can't rely on other people to do this for them its a sure fire way to fail!!

I live as close to Leigh town centre as anyone and have not seen a single advertisement in years!!

For those advocating Saturdays as game day, then read the 'CEO to attend Lisa meeting' thread.

Saturday's 6-30pm in my opinion would be the best day for home matches
The people I have asked why they don't come anymore the answer is mostly the same too expensive people seem to be struggling in the current climate the cost of petrol is scandalous. 3 yrs ago it cost £50 to fill my car up now it's £70 I have,nt had a pay rise for 5 yrs but thing are going up take the Centurions the Club put up the price to go and watch the match from last season madness in my opinion in the current climate theres also the league we are in couple of decent games against Fev Halifax who bring traveling fans Batley bring a few that's it really the club set the target of 1800 for this year which should be reachable but the ones that stay away get into the habit and only something different will get them back Sat kick off would be one way .Its not that we have,nt got people willing to come and watch the Centurions look at the cup final at Blackpool couple years ago plenty fans supporting us then .....

I don't think the club was wrong to set the budget based on 1700.
We must have been around that figure last year and we have signed a couple of players that really should increase last years average.
We are a few hundred short on the first two games (bad weather, football on TV and against probably two teams least likely to get our fans excited) and over the season we should get a few better crowds which should at least meet that average 1700 figure.
BUT the club, however they do it, MUST get out there and sell it to the thousands who have never even been near the LSV and stop keep throwing it back at the same 30 - 50 LISA members to get the message accross.
They club must also remember that in the past were we have had a push on new / lapsed fans we got a few hundred extra in only for the team to put in one of their worst performances.

Does the club know who it's customers are? Isn't this a vital piece of information when trying to get the missing 400 back? Maybe it knows season ticket holders but does it know people who pay on the gate? If it knew, then it could target these people with some direct marketing.

They could get this information by running a small competition when they buy a ticket to get their names / address / email address etc.

We should all send a text and email to everyone in our address books inviting people to the game tomorrow. Might drag a few along and with a bit of luck find some lost fans and new fans permenantly.

www.lewesfc.com/ownership-essentials/ Perhaps another direction for the club to go in if this particular model isn't working.

www.lewesfc.com/ownership-essentials/ Perhaps another direction for the club to go in if this particular model isn't working.

Do the club still do posters for people and businesses to print off and display?these are pretty good www.lewesfc.com/match-day-posters/

Do the club still do posters for people and businesses to print off and display?these are pretty good www.lewesfc.com/match-day-posters/

How about a couple of bucket collections this season by the u20s players to help pay for themselves?.

Just saw the owner of the snack a jack butty shop in Lowton and she said she's 'fallen out with the club and hasn't been for 2 years'. She used to go every week.
I asked why and she didn't answer.

Odd.

That's a fair point - I was in Tesco in St Helen's last weekend and their under 18's were doing exactly that by helping packing bags.

I was thinking that a simple "like" on Facebook or retweet on Twitter would also do the trick to spread the word. However a match hasn't been announced on the Facebook fan page since Swinton on the 2nd Sept last year.

To answer the advertising Question ?Yes there is very big Ad Board on Atherleigh Way , announcing all up-and coming games at the LSV ,the Posters for Shops and Pub windows will be back very soon , along with Reporter and Journal messages , there is a Lottery Club van driving round Leigh and District advertising the next home game , and as has been said Parky Pig attending everywhere , we are only short of a Barrage Balloon

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It was mentioned about drinks and food prices , well the LSV with Legends bar , have dropped their drinks prices , done special offers of 4 pint jugs , and the food prices are very resonable now and the food is good , but how many have tried them ?

We are now at a point where the Board dont hide anything , they are very open about things , and tell the fans as it is , Rob Parker said he was going to try to get the players more involved in the Match day expeience , they are leaving very little to chance in trying to make things better ,we will never live in a Perfect world , some will always gripe , that was proved last night , but the effort is there , the Club , are doing their best , the only other Solution is PRESS GANGS

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Glad you told me that I use to go in for a bacon barm or two or the odd butty or two now I,ll make mi own

Well said Ian

Parky Pig does good Bacon Butties

Personally i have a Dog that cant digest Waterfields Pastry , so he wont eat them .