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Robbie AND Alf Ridyard ??

Seems Robbie didn't buy a beanie hat.

Well after reading some of the stuff on here Im convinced there was half a dozen games going on today and we were all at different ones, ive watched it twice now and some of the comments about certain players and parts of the game well to be honest they are unjustified if not downright laughable.

i noticed wigans young lads knocked him backwards EVERY time he took the ball up.........lots of heart, but sadly nowhere near big enough

You've lost us , Ben Davies was playing for the W1g4n team , so who were you reffering to ?

he highlighted macgraffs name in the post so i would think hes referring to him

Im a warrington fan living in leigh and would gladly go and support leigh when the wire arent playing or have already played, I have been a few times and would not go again due to the price of the game the qaulity of rugby and the lack of atmosphere. Not having a pop at the true loyal fans but the club itself.

Fair enough but to improve atmosphere fans need something to cheer about. We will see if that happens and the appointment of Ian Millward seems to me to be a step in the right direction.

To be fair at the end of last season as we were attempting to stave off relegation the atmosphere was quite good.

I think some comments are not doing these wigan up and coming stars justice they where well organised especially defensively their tackling was great and their core skills was excellent, this team lost twice all last season and i think they have only lost about 5 in 2 seasons, a very well coached dissiplined side i didnt expect to roll them over easy everyone of them lads has an eye on the first team i also think our lads will take more out of that game than being mauled by 50 points against wigans first team.

lost 30-0 at Whitehaven last season. We were crap = end of.

That was nearer to three years ago IIRC, and only two players from that side played yesterday. Let's look at the facts - that Wigan side would comfortably be in the top half of our league.

C'mon Matt never let facts get in the way of a good moan, for mine it was a good workout against a well drilled well coached fit enthusiastic skillfull team some of whose players I would have with us now if possible.

Looks like the 'Millward factor' has gone before its started according to some.

Don't think I'd be alone in thinking that there are very few of that team who I would turn down on a dual contract, particularly as it might be a little less likely that they will get recalled in the same manner that the likes of Penny etc were recalled from Widnes last year.

I dont think anyone knows though as to how many a club can have on these dual contracts, as I believe we have agreed to take two or three from Warrington?

According to Ian Millward a club may have a maximum of four.

Wasn't it mentioned on here that it was four players over the course of the season? In which case I'd be inclined to suggest we only take 1-2 for the time being and 'save up' the other slots for once the injuries kick in (though they seem to have arrived already in the front row!)

I knew that Frank but methinks he was only guessing at that, as I'm sure the regulations on LOAN players was a max of five, I suppose we will find out on that one soon.

As for Warrington that wasn't my understanding Matt - though I do stand to be corrected??

If they've got a spare prop knocking about then get one of those spots sewn up straight away, I say!

Halfway there anyroad as any players out of that Wigan side will either play for Wigan's first team, another Super League club or will drop in to our league.

I agree with Matt with our current prop situation we would have played 5 league games before they are back from injury.

It is a bit like last season when we were crying out for a stand off.

My opinion is if we can get one on loan do so and yon mon who starred in Wigan's pack yesterday would do me feeder club or not.

In one of the rugby rags today it stated London Skolars had taken FIVE on dual contract from Quins

Expansionist club Derek. Rules different for them.

Well I was thinking along the same lines (5 that is) as like i said im sure that was the 'old' number of loanees one could have, as for Skolars well they are well and trully 'in bed' with Quins.

Although on the other side of the coin, I think the Skolars should be allowed a certain exemption in this situation, as we've got Wigan, Saints, Wire and Salford all on our doorstep to get their kids on dual contract, whereas Skolars have a very limited choice in this department.