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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Just to point out I still think we will beat Toulouse and Whitehaven and if we still go down after that, Gateshead will have to beat Barrow away and Batley will have to have won 2 of their games, an unlikely scenario in my opinion!'" after the results of the last few wks i wudnt bank on it
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| Quote ="WHERESYERBALL"Sorry Keith i completely disagree with you. In the present financial climate Leigh are a must for these clubs whether we challenge them or not an the RFL know this, they know that the likelyhood of us having a good side next season will happen therefore our travelling support will increse and they need the money, also as has been said before how can 2 teams out of ann11 team comp go down? doesn't make sense also only one Lancashire team in the championship doesn't look good does it? Hopefully they will see sense and increse the league to 12 or just relegate the already finacially stricken dons
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Good ideas but unlikely because firstly it would be unfair on the playoff winners in Championship 1 and secondly the other idea leaves only 9 teams in that league for next season.
A more sensible suggestion might be to amalgamate both leagues play 32 league games a season, have the NRC as a straight knockout and a top 8 playoff.
Course if we do survive leave things as they are.
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| The points For column surely is depressing. Looking at the table we still have advantage over Gateshead (game in hand too) if we can win the Toulouse game. If Sheff can do us a favour today then it really does set the Toulouse game as a big game, and possibly most important since 2004 IMO.
Will Batley lose at home though ?
Anyway if we deserve to stay up, its still in our own hands.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Correct and thats why I dont give a monkeys what score Gateshead won or lost by yesterday!'"
Exactly, and although yesterday's result was a surprise, it doesn't alter anything for us. We still have to win our own games - it's still in our hands.
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| Quote ="Tipster Ste"Just to point out I still think we will beat Toulouse and Whitehaven and if we still go down after that, Gateshead will have to beat Barrow away and Batley will have to have won 2 of their games, an unlikely scenario in my opinion!'"
...after Saturdays result and Havens today. Didn't have you down as delusional
Oh and I see Eagles just gave Batley a BP....unreal having been 24 down with 15 to go
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| Halifax are beatable at the moment to be fair. There are games to win for you, it's going to be tough to stay up which is a shame but you can still do it.
Good luck guys, I do mean that.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"...after Saturdays result and Havens today. Didn't have you down as delusional
Oh and I see Eagles just gave Batley a BP....unreal having been 24 down with 15 to go'"
We still have to win games though Derek. Batley one point ahead, and Gateshead one point behind, but we've got a game in hand. That was theoretically Batley's easiest remaining game.
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| So if Batley lose all there remaining without a BP we are safe if we get 2 BPs (pts diff means 1 won't be enough) or one win, against either Toulouse/Fax or Haven. On current form can you honestly say we can do it?
The only way I see it is if Havens play off place is decided and they rest a few. Then again we could beat toulouse as they don't travel well so we are told just after beating Fev at Fev and Featherstone have just beaten Widnes.
The form lines....they say no
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| Ive never known so many pessimists to gather in so many numbers, were a point behind Batley with a game in hand, were a point ahead of Gateshead, again with a game in hand, our fate is in our hands. If the players went out onto the pitch with your attitude youd be on their backs quick enough, SHUT UP AND GET BEHIND THE TEAM.
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| At the minute we are the weakest link , we are the ones who need a massive change of form
All Gateshead and Batley have to do is continue what they are doing , ie scoring points , because of that both of them will pick up more points , be they from wins or bonus
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| I am behind the team, WE CAN ALL HAVE OPINIONS AND WE CAN ALL SHOUT. But I don't want to do that. Pessimism/realism call it what you like but don't tell me to shut up.
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| To get back to the original question, me! Batley wont pick up anymore points with their remaining games being so hard and we will get at least 2 more bonus points, maybe even 2 wins.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"I am behind the team, WE CAN ALL HAVE OPINIONS AND WE CAN ALL SHOUT. But I don't want to do that. Pessimism/realism call it what you like but don't tell me to shut up.'"
And what do you think all this will achieve? As I said, our fate is in our hands, only we can do something about it, and all this "were doomed" mentality and attitude will not help, and if you are behind the team, then SHOW IT.
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| Barring Batley getting a real upset somewhere, I think we need 4 more points to be safe.
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| Quote ="duckegg"And what do you think all this will achieve? As I said, our fate is in our hands, only we can do something about it, and all this "were doomed" mentality and attitude will not help, and if you are behind the team, then SHOW IT.'"
I'll look out for you scoring a try next week, not missing tackles or dropping balls. Only the team can do something about it in reality....yes thats what this is, reality.
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| Quote ="DemonUK"I'll look out for you scoring a try next week, not missing tackles or dropping balls. Only the team can do something about it in reality....yes thats what this is, reality.'"
I really didnt think I would have to explain this but...when i say we, i mean the club, the players, the fans...I would have thought that was obvious...even to you. As for saying that only the team can do something about it, dont the fans have a part to play? Or should we all sit here and be quiet and miserable? The reality is that we ALL need to get behind the players, not get on their backs, and then expect them to go out there and give their all, would you? I dont think you would. I look forward to hearing you get behind the side next week. Again, if you dont have anything positive to say, you know what the alternative is.
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| Come on Leigh!
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| You don't have to explain. I can say come on Leigh with the best of you, cause you are better than me. I can also be realistic, Fax scored 36 points and lost today. We haven't scored more than 32 in a game all season and that wasn't even against Doncaster.
Looking at the way you are speaking to me, if we god forbid do go down, I am sure you will be ready to blame it on the pessimists, rather than rank bad club management, rank bad recruitment, oh and a rank bad team.....good players but not a team
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| wll said dparky.The team needs our support,lets give it to the french aussies big style.they ruined my trip to toulouse.I even went to bed early after the match,admittedly much the worse for the ale after the match and a short sojurn to the melting pot.so come on u LEIGH!
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| Quote ="DemonUK"You don't have to explain. I can say come on Leigh with the best of you, cause you are better than me. I can also be realistic, Fax scored 36 points and lost today. We haven't scored more than 32 in a game all season and that wasn't even against Doncaster.
Looking at the way you are speaking to me, if we god forbid do go down, I am sure you will be ready to blame it on the pessimists, rather than rank bad club management, rank bad recruitment, oh and a rank bad team.....good players but not a team'"
Im no better than anyone else, neither am i any worse, and Im well aware of the shortcomings of the team, as, im sure they are, but that doesnt mean i have to be pessimistiic, I can be hopeful about things. All im saying is that we should be supporting the side, not writing them off.
I know that we havent scored more than 32 points in a league game this season, I also know that with this weekends results, we are in a better position than either Batley or Gateshead.
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| We have 4 games left 3 at home and we need to win 2 of them!!!!
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| Quote ="duckegg"Im no better than anyone else, neither am i any worse, and Im well aware of the shortcomings of the team, as, im sure they are, but that doesnt mean i have to be pessimistiic, I can be hopeful about things. All im saying is that we should be supporting the side, not writing them off.
I know that we havent scored more than 32 points in a league game this season, I also know that with this weekends results, we are in a better position than either Batley or Gateshead.'"
If the fact we have a game in hand puts us in a better position then fine. However with the teams we have left to play I am not sure you can say we are in a better position. Has anyone looked at our previous games against Fax/Toulouse and Haven this year, and then remember we are not the same team as earlier in the season
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| Yes you will stay up, esp with the home games.
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| If we do stop up can we adopt the Great Escape as our main fan's chant?
I'm sure ther are probably 1300 Leythers out there who know exactly where it went wrong this season.
Recruitment was poor, pre-season perhaps not the best, the lack of a dedicated gym... some see these as excuses, but being realistic you can't expect to improve enough over the course of a season. When other teams are able to do that and overall our budget for the season was largely spent and pinned on the faint hopes of 2 Aussie halfbacks who the closest they probably got to the town was this messageboard.
I do believe with those same Leythers backing the team it will make for an interesting end to the season.
Not one fan is more important than another and never has been, we all have a part to play, always have. That teamwork - backing in unison this bunch of players may save us, it may not, but lets enjoy the ride and build for next year.
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| Quote ="DParky"If we do stop up can we adopt the Great Escape as our main fan's chant?
I'm sure ther are probably 1300 Leythers out there who know exactly where it went wrong this season.
Recruitment was poor, pre-season perhaps not the best, the lack of a dedicated gym... some see these as excuses, but being realistic you can't expect to improve enough over the course of a season. When other teams are able to do that and overall our budget for the season was largely spent and pinned on the faint hopes of 2 Aussie halfbacks who the closest they probably got to the town was this messageboard.
I do believe with those same Leythers backing the team it will make for an interesting end to the season.
Not one fan is more important than another and never has been, we all have a part to play, always have. That teamwork - backing in unison this bunch of players may save us, it may not, but lets enjoy the ride and build for next year.'"
Well said. It's no use booing and making our already fragile confidence even worse, lets rally as a team, a set of fans and give them that extra lift. It certainly worked for the W***n when they was in a dog fight so lets get the team through this one.
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