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| Quote ="j.c"It wasnt aimed at you
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| Quote ="j.c"[uOur sport is being consigned to the dustbin not by the RFL but by braindead NON RELEGATION CLUB Chairman who in their shortsighted cost cutting way are trying to treat the Championship as a training ground for their reserves and players coming back from injury.
When the Championship inevitably folds so will the clubs at the nowhere end of that NON RELEGATION LEAGUE then the top 5/6 can play themselves every other week or so for 9 months a year.
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The above is what you wrote not long back,you've also wrote lot of other posts like this over the last 6 months or so,obviously they were just words.Enjoy your new club owd lad.
Perhaps i wont see you at miners and east anymore.'"
I did write that and I think it is correct. I still don't think we will ever see our club taken over by Wigan or any other club however.
And re Miners and Easts I shall also continue to watch them when I can.
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| The championship clubs should collectively be pushing to reinstate P & R. Even in SL a return to what I personally consider the right system has considerable support.
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| Quote ="Fylde_Warrior"Oops Sorry
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| Quote ="Starbug"I avoided this thread until somebody once again brought up the ' Hilton park / Negociation of a better deal / LSV issue '
I would love to come watching a team representing a forward thinking truly ambitious growing club again , even if it was never able to see SL again , but this is yet another backward step , no matter how small it will end up being , [unext year the RFL will reinstate the reserve grade and all the fuss will die down [/u, but the damage will be done'"
I hope so but i doubt it now that most fans of most of the clubs are now saying they are comfortable with it
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| Quote ="Starbug"12 months ago I offered to work for the club free of charge on 2 specific projects , however my idea's were dissmissed as ' Stupid ' and not needed , because they know what they are doing'"
And who told you they were 'stupid' Starbug? Having been attending 'PSG' meetings, since they started, I can honestly say nobody in there said your ideas were 'stupid'. What I did hear, was a sense of frustration that we didn't/don't have enough bodies to implement good ideas - yours and those of others.
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| A PR own goal but probably one half taken out of the clubs hands by RFL stance. We had a similar agreement with Wigan last year and there wasn't the outcry there is now.
I am seeking some clarification and plan to run a couple of interviews if can be arranged.
One thing I will say is that currently we have two Wigan lads making their way in our 20s, they are good players and enhancing the squad currently. They are also in the final years of their contracts with Wigan and I can see them becoming Leigh players in future if they continue to develop. These lads compliment what we already have. I do not believe they are holding any of our lads back, just as Chris Rowe didn't hold any Wigan lads back when he was there last year.
Also a dual registration should always be for the benefit of the player. We forget them in all of this.
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| A PR own goal but probably one half taken out of the clubs hands by RFL stance. We had a similar agreement with Wigan last year and there wasn't the outcry there is now.
I am seeking some clarification and plan to run a couple of interviews if can be arranged.
Irrepairable damage already done Dave.
Whatever floating or latent support we had has now gone with this announcement.
Nothing said now will change their minds.
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| Leythers are resilliant and proud people. Ask anyone what is famous about Leigh and regardless of wether a current, laspsed or none RL supporter, 99.9% of Leythers will say Leigh Rugby League Team with a sense of pride.
When we see the club's identity and roots beginning to fall then equally there will be an inevitable backlash.
People who say this is just about it being Wigan rather than ANY other SL feeder club are quite frankly people who must have come down with the last shower because that is the most insulting of all comments. Please allow me re iterate
FOR ME, THIS IS NOT ABOUT WIGAN. IT IS SOLEY ABOUT SIGNING A FORMAL AGREEMENT TO NO LONGER BECOME AN INDEPENDANT LEYTH RUGBY LEAGUE CLUB
Thank you, I can not make that any clearer and unless I missed something, we did not sign a formal partnership with Warrington Last year did we? Or did we sign one with St Helens?
No I don't think we did.
Not one Leigh supporter in 32 pages (along with countless supporters I have spoken to) have stated / said
'It's what I would have done you know, it's a good thing, we should have done it sooner etc etc'
Not one Leigh fan, Not one.
Some niaive comments on here such as 'We trust PR to only pick the best 17 for Leigh?' What? I only want to see PR pick the best 17 Leigh players for Leigh thank you.
I no longer feel able to show my support of a system that is selling us down the river by continually turning up and handing over my money.
I am sorry. I will one day hope to return when we we are led by people who will want to restore this club to the proud traditions of the men who formed it nearly 150 years ago.
So sad.
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| Quote ="Alexs Dad"A PR own goal but probably one half taken out of the clubs hands by RFL stance. We had a similar agreement with Wigan last year and there wasn't the outcry there is now.
I am seeking some clarification and plan to run a couple of interviews if can be arranged.
Steve
As this could impact both our organisions I think we need to ask to meet up with the directors to discuss this, as there's people already planning to cancel touchdown and Lisa memberships.
If this happens it could seriously threaten the clubs existence .
For the club have budgeted gore a certain amount from each of the two organizations.
It's really important to clarify this properly.
Irrepairable damage already done Dave.
Whatever floating or latent support we had has now gone with this announcement.
Nothing said now will change their minds.'"
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| This is what the club now need to do
They need to sit down with Wigan and get the names of 5 players ( 1 being Spencer ) who will be the DR players for this season
Announce these 5 players and that could appease some of the fans unhappy with this partnership
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Sorry about that it's this I pad it's stuck my post in the middle of the one I was reply to but the touchdown club and Lisa need speak with the directors and then we can reassure our members re this.
As if we lost a lot of members because of this it will cause a real problem money wise in the near future.
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| Harold , it was me who said that about PR picking the best 17 players for Leigh , and i stand by that , once a player puts on a Leigh shirt and goes on the Pitch , HE IS A LEIGH PLAYER , it doesnt matter who has his registration , loan players have been in Rugby League for years , they play to their best ability for the said club .
Ive said it before if an Eskimo comes to the LSV and asks for a trial game , to me hes a Leigh player while on the pitch wearing the Leigh jersey .
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Listen it's the way it's been done AND the official statement is as clear as mud.
If wigan were to name 5 dual regs we can have now, as Starbug suggests then that would be enough for me and probably most fans on here.
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Sorry about that it's this I pad it's stuck my post in the middle of the one I was reply to but the touchdown club and Lisa need speak with the directors and then we can reassure our members re this.
As if we lost a lot of members because of this it will cause a real problem money wise in the near future.'"
Lynda , i totally agree with you , well said , both LISA and the Touchdown Club , need to meet to clarify what has been agreed , before fans start making rash decisions about leaving both Groups , which would do nobody any good , ive said it before the majority of posters on this Forum only have Leighs best interests at heart .
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| I have not commented on this since the announcement was made. I wanted time to analyse and reflect.
We have been together for over 30 years. We've been through some amazing times together, some good, some bad. No matter what happened to me in my life you were always there to put a smile on my face. We've travelled all over the country together in winter snow and summer heat. We even had adventures in Spain and France, weekends I will never forget. I've seen you nuture our children and watched them grow from boys to men, some going on to achieve international acclaim. You made me proud to know you and love you. On Thursday night you ripped my heart out when I came home from work to find you in bed with another. Not just anyone, but the next door neighbour!
How can I ever forgive you for this?!?!
Goodbye my love, the memories will live with me forever.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"The narrowminded part is all this "We hate Wigan business "of which im totally against , i cant understand why you should hate someone just because they come from another Town , as i have said my Wife is a Wiganer .'"
You are getting this out of context. It is not a hatred of anyone from Wigan. It is a hatred of seeing my club Leigh losing its identity by twinning up with Wigan.The chant "We hate Wigan" is just a bit of banter. It's what used to go on between clubs in big derby match days. I didn't know you were that sensitive.
We need to keep our independence. SL tried the mergers first, that didn't work. So they stopped P&R knowing this would financially cripple the lower clubs. Now that they are struggling financially, the bigger clubs pick them off as feeder clubs. Is there only a few people on here who can see this?
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Harold , it was me who said that about PR picking the best 17 players for Leigh , and i stand by that , once a player puts on a Leigh shirt and goes on the Pitch , HE IS A LEIGH PLAYER , it doesnt matter who has his registration , loan players have been in Rugby League for years , they play to their best ability for the said club .
Ive said it before =#FF0000if an Eskimo comes to the LSV and asks for a trial game , to me hes a Leigh player while on the pitch wearing the Leigh jersey .'"
Could be the way forward, this weather!
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| Quote ="Dick Jones"Charlie
Listen it's the way it's been done AND the official statement is as clear as mud.
If wigan were to name 5 dual regs we can have now, as Starbug suggests then that would be enough for me and probably most fans on here.'"
Is it that simple though. The five could be injured, get on the first team, go out on loan to another SL club, then we'd be looking for replacements and be damned for using more than five. We used NINE D/c's last season. I don't like that, never have, but accepted that's what we had to do to put a team on the pitch.
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"You are getting this out of context. It is not a hatred of anyone from Wigan. It is a hatred of seeing my club Leigh losing its identity by twinning up with Wigan.The chant "We hate Wigan" is just a bit of banter. It's what used to go on between clubs in big derby match days. I didn't know you were that sensitive.
We need to keep our independence. SL tried the mergers first, that didn't work. So they stopped P&R knowing this would financially cripple the lower clubs. Now that they are struggling financially, the bigger clubs pick them off as feeder clubs. Is there only a few people on here who can see this?'"
Exactly what I've been saying for years Graham, that along with a divide and conquer process
The answer? , Collaberation between lower tier clubs, partnerships with them, they are not our competition, they ARE our partners, not our biggest competitor on our doorstep
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| Our under 20s , they're really good, as many on here will tell you. I've only seen one game this season so far. But Frank,JC , Matt and many other go every match they play . What's the point of paying the money to run a reserve yeam if your not going to use them .
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| Quote ="THECherry&Whites"I have not commented on this since the announcement was made. I wanted time to analyse and reflect.
We have been together for over 30 years. We've been through some amazing times together, some good, some bad. No matter what happened to me in my life you were always there to put a smile on my face. We've travelled all over the country together in winter snow and summer heat. We even had adventures in Spain and France, weekends I will never forget. I've seen you nuture our children and watched them grow from boys to men, some going on to achieve international acclaim. You made me proud to know you and love you. On Thursday night you ripped my heart out when I came home from work to find you in bed with another. Not just anyone, but the next door neighbour!
How can I ever forgive you for this?!?!
Goodbye my love, the memories will live with me forever.
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If it was ' set ' at 5 named players, would you accept that?
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We've already got several members with serious concerns and threats to stop their memberships.
Can't say I am suprised one bit either.
Whatever happens we all need to stick together for the long term good of the club. I'm 100% with Lisa on this.
How thats is done when you've just been told your wife is in bed with the next door neighbour and announced it to the world, god knows.
We can meet you whenever suits.
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| Do we need 5 pie players though? With Higson fit we've got more options in the backs & with Coyle back we've got more options in halve back/hooker role which gives us another option at LF with Beswick like Fev do with Briggs. Nicholson is a excellent player does he not deserve a chance? 5 DR's can't do the team moral any good when we've got excellent players that haven't played this season. 3 DR's at best IMO.
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| Quote ="WYSIWYG"You are getting this out of context. It is not a hatred of anyone from Wigan. It is a hatred of seeing my club Leigh losing its identity by twinning up with Wigan.The chant "We hate Wigan" is just a bit of banter. It's what used to go on between clubs in big derby match days. I didn't know you were that sensitive.
We need to keep our independence. SL tried the mergers first, that didn't work. So they stopped P&R knowing this would financially cripple the lower clubs. Now that they are struggling financially, the bigger clubs pick them off as feeder clubs. Is there only a few people on here who can see this?'"
I agree some of the chanting is Banter , dont get me wrong , at my wifes Birthday party at Leigh Easts ,i asked Big Gaz the DJ to play the "Flute Song ", and sang along with the rest of the Leythers , there was plenty of Wiganers there to who took it in good humour , i just feel some fanss are taking it to far .
As with you , Leigh are my Club , im a Leyther through and through , and will never do anything to harm them , i know most posters on this Forum feel the same way , it really hurts to see all this agro ,i love Leigh , and will support them unconditionally .
It was obvious when the SL clubs were told to disband their reserve teams what was going to happen , i said last year we would have the pick of the Wigan youngsters , it has now happened , something does need to be sorted out though , there are 5 players coming we are told , we need to know who they are , and Leigh be in charge of the team selection , which im sure will happen ,Paul Rowley is a very shrewd guy , and believe me , he is his own man , and wont be dictated to by anyone from Wigan .
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