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| If ever people needed a reminder of the dangers of selling tickets on the cheap.................!!!
Good luck to them however, albeit can't see their landlord not bailing them out.
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| No I can't either but all the same I hope they pull through without that help. Good luck Bradfot.
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| Highlights once again the either incompetancey or corruption of the sports governing body, how in gods name could they have been awarded a licence 9 months ago when the RFL must have known about the mess they were in
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Quote ="Starbug"Highlights once again the either incompetancey or corruption of the sports governing body, how in gods name could they have been awarded a licence 9 months ago when the RFL must have known about the mess they were in'"
Indeed, Starbug....
www.superleague.co.uk/page/licensing/375
Reading between the lines, I think the RFL did know about the problems.
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Quote ="Starbug"Highlights once again the either incompetancey or corruption of the sports governing body, how in gods name could they have been awarded a licence 9 months ago when the RFL must have known about the mess they were in'"
Indeed, Starbug....
www.superleague.co.uk/page/licensing/375
Reading between the lines, I think the RFL did know about the problems.
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| Yet awarded them a class B licence? if that be the case then why? it makes a mockery of the whole licence system.
Though I think they will pull through as they have the loyal fan base.
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| Quote ="FredParky"Yet awarded them a class B licence? if that be the case then why? it makes a mockery of the whole licence system.
Though I think they will pull through as they have the loyal fan base.'"
On the one hand I deeply sympathise for the club. On the other I get angry when I hear stories like this.
The rationale behind Super League and the licensing system was to improve financial stability of clubs, at the expense of promoting teams that were not ready from below.
Yet, it seems to me that we are hearing more financial woes from SL than the rest of the league.
SL clubs are frankly handed enough on which to survive and should have the management in place to make it happen.
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| the RFL handed them a license knowing they were struggling , now they own Odsal, dont think theyll let Bradford go under, like they didnt let London before um. Shows how the Franchise system is b0lls and also giving season ticket out at £100 this season wont help cashflow, and yet our fans moan about our prices, now the time to get real folks, or we will end up in the same situation.
Bet Halifax are chuffed seeing the dig the RFL had with their bid
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| Dunno about being 'chuffed' I'd be bloody angry.
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| My ribs are hurting at laughing at this announcement lets hope another 3 super league clubs go under and we can finally lay this franchise farce to the grave.
The writing was on the wall with daft season ticket prices,which quite a few super league clubs have started doing,it was commented on that the game was under selling itself with matches and cup finals being given away at basement prices just to get people in.
Hopefully this should see of the clown lewis and we get a proper rl man back incharge
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| First up what a real shame for the Bradford Fans, Players and employees.
Worrying times ahead.
The RFL and its leaders though must now surely have to answer just how this was missed during the recent franchise application - its not as if its a one off , the first franchise checks missed Celtics financial mismanagement as well so answers must be given to maintain credibility of the governing body.
I'm no fan of Mr Lewis (based on his lies to the BBC1 interviewer on the first set of franchises), I'm also realisitic to know that not everything the RFL does is bad - the vast majority is excellent however if the game still has a poorly executed franchise system in place after this latest scandal has died down then I'm afraid something is very wrong.
Bradford (like a lot of clubs - ours included) have been run with possibly the best intentions but in a very poor way, the governing body should (and those it employs to work on its behalf) be compleltely impartial in all aspects.
I hope Bradford pull this around, I also hope that the RFL is shaken around by this as whilst its evident they cannot be accountable for actions at clubs its equally evident they should be accountable when things like this happen on the back of a very recent franchise award.
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| A Lot of the problems financial wise that SL clubs find themselves in is due to the wage bill......some players are simply paid too much.
As well as the salary cap there should be a max that any player can earn. Pay the younger lads lower wages than the stars but even they need to be capped as paying 1 player 100 grand a year is stupid.
We are a minor sport compared to football and the moneybags called union and the pay should reflect this.....I`m not saying pay them peanuts but some players are overpaid and it needs to be addressed.
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| I see mr lewis must have got onto the muppets on the virtual terrace apparently my posts breaks libel laws,boy there up there own arrrrses on there.
A sport overseen by a fella that allows clubs to lie to retain super league status,get accused by the drug testing body of being involved in the cover up of gleeson drug test and be incharge of a club they knew was going bankrupt but still had clubs paying for franchise applications when they knew for monthe the celtic clowns were going bust
time to go mr lewis
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| Will you stop annoying those nice chaps and chappets on the VT old boy?
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| They don't like it up them mr starbug
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| I love the way you all seem to think that Richard Lewis does every little job at the RFL himself.
By god, he must be a busy man these days for someone who works - what was it? - three days a week.
I think you'll find this thing called 'delegation' goes on. If you want to point the finger, find out who was responsible for the actual decision. I can promise you that it won't be Lewis, any more than the chairman of WH Smiths decides what goes on which shelf.
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"I love the way you all seem to think that Richard Lewis does every little job at the RFL himself.
By god, he must be a busy man these days for someone who works - what was it? - three days a week.
I think you'll find this thing called 'delegation' goes on. If you want to point the finger, find out who was responsible for the actual decision. I can promise you that it won't be Lewis, any more than the chairman of WH Smiths decides what goes on which shelf.'"
Which decision Nik?
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| The buck stops with him
Time to go tricky dicky
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"I love the way you all seem to think that Richard Lewis does every little job at the RFL himself.
By god, he must be a busy man these days for someone who works - what was it? - three days a week.
I think you'll find this thing called 'delegation' goes on. If you want to point the finger, find out who was responsible for the actual decision. I can promise you that it won't be Lewis, any more than the chairman of WH Smiths decides what goes on which shelf.'"
Actually you will find he does decide what the stores sell a bit like tricky as to decide which club to bail out this week us included
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| Anyway - will all the money that's being raked in by mammoth sponsorship deals - like the Stobart one - the sport has got no money worries at all......
I don't imagine for a minute that the Bulls will be the last SDL club we are gonna hear about with financial problems this season!!......and in the Ch/Ch1 it's pretty much a racing certainty!!!
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| How have they got into so much financial trouble ?
We know that our situation (last season) was due to the fact that our 'only' backer had to leave the club.
Last season they had the 3rd highest average attendance of almost 15,000, and also sold their ground to the RFL, combine this with the 'salary cap' - how is this possible ? Bonus's to Directors that a Banker would be happy with ??
THIS IS A BIZARRE SITUATION
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| Quote ="Scooter Nik"I love the way you all seem to think that Richard Lewis does every little job at the RFL himself.
By god, he must be a busy man these days for someone who works - what was it? - three days a week.
I think you'll find this thing called 'delegation' goes on. If you want to point the finger, find out who was responsible for the actual decision. I can promise you that it won't be Lewis, any more than the chairman of WH Smiths decides what goes on which shelf.'"
Don't buy that on two counts - firstly, the franchising decision is one of if not the most important decisions made every three years (apart from which pie(s) Nigel is going to have for lunch), so you would hope that Lewis was very heavily involved, otherwise why are we paying him so much? Secondly, as Starbug said, the buck has to stop with the leadership - goes with the territory.
How many times are these questions of credibility going to be raised?
If I once heard a shred of humility from the man, even the merest whiff of an apologetic attitude then I might be more sympathetic.
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| I think 'Budge' that no money actually passed over hands as they seemed to owe a heck of a lot to the RFL - something I do believe was denied but now accepted, what with 'Walesgate' 1 2 & 3 and other debacle's just how they hang onto power is sometimes beyond belief.
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| Quote ="FredParky"I think 'Budge' that no money actually passed over hands as they seemed to owe a heck of a lot to the RFL - something I do believe was denied but now accepted, what with 'Walesgate' 1 2 & 3 and other debacle's [ujust how they hang onto power is sometimes beyond belief.'"
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Quite simply its gone to far now
edit..as long as its not a prick like hetherington who takes over,god help us then...caisley and lindsey all over again,,thick northern gits
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| Well I take no satisfaction from saying this but when I could post under my real name I did say that when he was appointed Richard Lewis would be as successfull as he was in his previous sporting job.
I also posted that franchising would destroy RL as a pro sport within a ccouple of seasons and that that Leigh actually did play at a stadium which Richard Lewis said did not exist believe it or not on National TV.
Am I thankfull the RFL have kept us in existence ? Course I am.
This policy ie paying money to the club I support in advance and buying Odsal is unsubstainable. Lets get back to what pro sport should be about ie promotion and relegation. Stop the televising of Championship clubs for NOTHING.
I suppose one day I will see a Stobarts truck/lorry with a Non Relegation league advertisement on it. What a ridiculous deal the RFL has struck on that Stobarts do not worry about how much we could have got deal.
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| The Watcher is not a fan of SL, so anything that shows up the bent & hypocritical side of the top division is welcome from his point of view. The Watcher is pleased that this has happened to Bradford, as it is a form of revenge for all that Chris Caisley (ex Bradford chairman) & his pals have done to lower league RL clubs over many years. One thing for sure is that Skys flagship rugby league show, Boots`n`all, will not be doing an in depth investigation into this throughly embarrassing debacle as they are hand in glove with the SL authorities.The Watcher thinks that, as a journalist, Mr Edward Hemmings should hang his head in shame. The other puppets on Sky are just yes men.
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