I think Jamie has not only got first team game time but has benefitted from this club with the coaching and fitness regime. He had a bit of timber when he first came but has got the body into an SL one now. I would love him to stay but if he fancies himself in the big league then go get um lad. I don't think anyone can say he didn't pull on the Leigh shirt and went through then motions. Jamie has been instrumental in our league and NRC position and showed it again today justly getting the MOM.

Agar has been to our last couple of games because he appreciates watching good RL. Shame a lot of our districts' public would rather spend 2 hours in the pub when they would actually have a cheaper healthier and a more enjoyable time watching ALL of this side.

With is off the field problems last year, this was always going to be a do or die season for Jamie. He has used his time with Leigh to turn his life around. Good luck to him, if he can stay on the straight and narrow he will turn into a top pro in Super League.

I have no idea what you mean but if they PM me they can have my phone number. I do not like hypocrisy.

What criteria do you refer to?

Winning a trophy this season

Good news if true, did n`t we nearly sign him a few years ago?

Seems to me Hill has been leaving every season since he started playing regularly for the first team and he's still here.

I'll believe it when I see it announced properly, still think he's more likely to go to Warrington what with Millward's relationship with Tony Smith. As for Jamie Ellis I think he'll want something more local, perhaps Salford or Widnes?

Grand Final apearance, or NL Cup Final Win, average attendance of 2500 in a season, stadium that meets SL minimum standard, meet the financial criteria for one season and have a SL quality youth structure. Oh and make £500,000 clear profit in a season despite all the salary cap restrictions of NL 1 (or that might just be an added bonus that Widnes were able to fulfil, with their multi-millionaire backer).

Turnover and profit was easy to achieve if you have a backer with a pile of money which they can place in a 'Charitable Trust'

dont knock it we would have 'met' the financial bit if we had won a trophy

If Fax could qualify then so can we, it must be perfectly achievable - even if it does seem to involve the clubs 'massaging' the figures (or making them up, in Widnes' case

).

So we can ' fiddle ' our way through application criteria to gain a spot at the bottom of SL for 3 years

Wonderful

If Dennis Betts had any sense (which we know he hasn't) he would be first in the queue for Ellis

Yes, that's the system the RFL have put in place. We must be a good little club now and play along and pretend it's all for the good of the game.

Michael , I don't think you got ' the point ' of my post

Plese enlighten me then. At the moment I'm a little dizzy on the fumes of awesome rugby football, so my perceptive skills may be lacking.

Remember after the last franchise descision. Widnes kept quiet and got about being RFL bitc*es, we had Allan Rowley complaining in the press to anyone who would listen how unfair it all was. Look where they will be in 2012 and look where we will be. Lessons must be learned, not least by Mr Rowley (if he still has a job when the consortium take over).

' At the bottom of SL for 3 years '

Well as Allan has worked long tireless hours all this week getting together the 'new consortium' I for one am glad he's been here he was the driving force behind Arthur Thomas being chairman, he's not taken a penny in wages from Leigh Centurions in all the time he's been Ch exec why shouldn't he not have a job - a job he's reluctantly done and as a favour to AT.
We have not had a chance at SL because we didn't win a trophy and that's the fact.

Hear, hear Fred. I personally thought Allan was well in order with his comments. If I had won the Euro Millions I would have had someone who lived and breathed Leigh to run then club and Alan would have been right up there for the job.

I disagree. It has been well documented over the years how he has drove away potential and existing sponsers from the club because of his attitude. I will never forget the night in the old Hilton lounge when he shouted down a very lucrative sponser of the club because he had cause to complain about how the team were nilled at home to Widnes in front of the Sky cameras.

And where was that same sponsor all the other times we have played Widnes over the last 6 seasons ?

The gentleman from Leigh cables was totally out of order , Alan was spot on , and not the only one who shouted him down that night , I did as well

Thanks Tony but I can't fixed income Kings Arms and all that.

Cya Sunday in York if you get a couple of hours off.

well documented where? in your dreams
and disagree about what? that he has worked tirelessly this week to get a consortium talking? that he was the main influence in getting AT here? that he doesnt recieve a wage for being Ch Exec at Leigh Centurions? and anything else in my post as above? yes Allan has his faults but as the saying goes let the first man throw the stone etc.... Without Allan there would be no At without AT no 'Basil' and who knows where we would have been

your remark is typical of someone who holds a grudge and wont let go even when your proven wrong as per Starbugs post above

this thread is so far off topic now.