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| Quote ="DallasMead2"Honestly no offence intended whatsoever, but I genuinely don’t see any super league standard players in your squad that any other super league team would want or need? Just being honest like, would be interested in any Leigh fans thoughts as to stand out players?'"
St Helens rumoured to be strongly interested in James Bell who is our stand out player at 13 & just proven himself handy at 6 too !
Wigan have signed 2 for next season, Wakey have signed our Captain & stand out Hooker Liam Hood & want our stand out Prop, Salford have signed 2. Huddersfield took 2 of ours including an Ex NRL/SOO prop & shafted us, we got 1 of the 2 agreed in return ..... thanks Honest Ken !
In truth we are about 75% Championship & 25% Super League on squad levels.
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| Quote ="maurice"What do you think the total player spend is at clubs in the T4?'"
Full Salary Cap + £500k on Marquee players ?
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| Quote ="Ste100Centurions"Full Salary Cap + £500k on Marquee players ?'"
Try doubling it.
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| The title of this thread is 'Losing Our Best Players'
As far as I'm concerned they are Championship grade apart from 1 or 2 and they are just mediocre SL players. They've just gone over to France for a Bank Holiday. DB puts his money in and this is how they repay him. They are just whiling away the days to the end of the season before they
move on to their new clubs. This is how it is always going to be as the RFL have deemed most clubs cannot have an Academy team. The RFL have killed the game for the majority of clubs. All we can ever expect playing for Leigh are journeymen as we aren't allowed by the RFL to grow our own talent, and it is home-grown talent who will bust a gut and play with pride for their hometown team. This lot won't. Rugby League is in a sad state of affairs and it's god help them when SKY pull the plug in 2 years time. All we can do is stay solvent for that day.
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| Quote ="maurice"You produce more sheeite than a herd of cows with runs. Fev will be lucky to be alive next season after TO win the promotion spot. You even seem to forget Fev came below Leigh in the League placings 2019, but Leeds reserves helped out in the play offs when others were depleted. So Leigh finished above Fev in 2019 and would have rattled 50 past em in 2020.
Team building is well under way, even to those who dont want to see it. We are building a formidable team for the Championship or a competitive team for SL - whichever call we get. Stone, Whitbread and Tomkins is the bones of a great pack. Mellor will run the show and hopefully we keep Bell(if off quota) and Brierley. Can see Eaves on a full season here next year and 1-2 Aussie centres, as the UK have none of quality available.
Great times for a well run club who helped the SL out this year and got shafted for the favour'"
No the sheetie as you put it is what you have produced all season with 1 lousey win.yes you really did deserve a place in sl didnt you.still your use to obe season at a time and no you wony get promoted nexr year there will be teams above you even if theres promotion which i wouldnt count your chickens on
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| So Bell gone the player drain continues. When will it stop? Do we have any recruitment plans for 2022. We have known we are relegated for weeks the model to bounce back is keep the team together as much as possible! Appreciate the players will take SL contracts but no comms about if we offered them contracts or more retentions. Are the Aussies staying what about Junior Sau, Hellewell, Ellis, Thompson, Ioane.. etc!
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| Quote ="Leyther14"So Bell gone the player drain continues. When will it stop? Do we have any recruitment plans for 2022. We have known we are relegated for weeks the model to bounce back is keep the team together as much as possible! Appreciate the players will take SL contracts but no comms about if we offered them contracts or more retentions. Are the Aussies staying what about Junior Sau, Hellewell, Ellis, Thompson, Ioane.. etc!'"
Personally Leyther , I would let all the above you mention go , along with Flower , Wallace , McCarthey,even Spencer , we must have a clear out to move forward , apparently Mason , Wildie , Thorniley ,Brierley,Gee,have already signed for other Clubs and. Rand is only on loan .
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"Personally Leyther , I would let all the above you mention go , along with Flower , Wallace , McCarthey,even Spencer , we must have a clear out to move forward , apparently Mason , Wildie , Thorniley ,Brierley,Gee,have already signed for other Clubs and. Rand is only on loan .'"
Not like you to talk sense Charles young man. It was a team to win the championship with some mid season additions. I would have tried to keep Bell and Ioane who were tough and honest, but we have 5 quota spots so I feel we will be looking at Stand off, Centre and prop positions
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"Personally Leyther , I would let all the above you mention go , along with Flower , Wallace , McCarthey,even Spencer , we must have a clear out to move forward , apparently Mason , Wildie , Thorniley ,Brierley,Gee,have already signed for other Clubs and. Rand is only on loan .'"
Can’t disagree with this but starting from scratch doesn’t normally equate to a top finish in champ as you can’t afford to loose to many games. Suppose it is where we are at. Be good to see some communications about recruitment as feels like time is ticking for next seasons already.
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| Quote ="maurice"Not like you to talk sense Charles young man. It was a team to win the championship with some mid season additions. I would have tried to keep Bell and Ioane who were tough and honest, but we have 5 quota spots so I feel we will be looking at Stand off, Centre and prop positions'"
Thank you Mo ,must be the Owl soup I’ve been having for Breakfast .I just think we must put aside sentiment make a few harsh decisions , and say farewell to a lot of the squad , in clouding the Coach , and maybe some Coaching Staff.
Next season will again be difficult , either Toulouse or Fev will again challenge , and we must be ready to spend a few quid , I’m not sure if Marwan is joining us , but Derek is a must to Stay , let’s get behind the Club ,and go for gold .
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| Quote ="Leyther14"Can’t disagree with this but starting from scratch doesn’t normally equate to a top finish in champ as you can’t afford to loose to many games. Suppose it is where we are at. Be good to see some communications about recruitment as feels like time is ticking for next seasons already.'"
I think when the season ends some announcements will be made , as to who we let go and who we keep , I also hope Derek decides against this Law suit , and concentrates on employing an experienced man who will appoint his own coaching staff and sign players he wants , as you say someClubs are already signing players , I think we will as well .
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"I think when the season ends some announcements will be made , as to who we let go and who we keep , I also hope Derek decides against this Law suit , and concentrates on employing an experienced man who will appoint his own coaching staff and sign players he wants , as you say someClubs are already signing players , I think we will as well .'"
We as fans of Leigh Centurions should be used to the mushroom syndrom of being kept in the dark and being fed , am I becoming disillusioned with the lack of any clarity eminating from the club of what the intentions are of player recriutment in either scenario of either being in SL or the Championship next term, you can bet your life on it that I am, will the recruitment be subject to what is affordable with either SL or Championship funding plus what the directors can afford of course it is, will the situation be vastly improved should Dr Koukash join us, yes immensely improved, why isn't Mr Beaumont telling us the situation with Dr Koukash we Derek's loyal fan base as he likes to describe us need to know what is going on, this is an opportunity for the Leigh Club to have a financial clout that we have not experienced in 126 years, if it is turned down I will want to see a full logical explanation of the reasoning why, if I am not happy with it I just may decide to complain with my absence in future.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"We as fans of Leigh Centurions should be used to the mushroom syndrom of being kept in the dark and being fed poop, am I becoming disillusioned with the lack of any clarity eminating from the club of what the intentions are of player recriutment in either scenario of either being in SL or the Championship next term, you can bet your life on it that I am, will the recruitment be subject to what is affordable with either SL or Championship funding plus what the directors can afford of course it is, will the situation be vastly improved should Dr Koukash join us, yes immensely improved, why isn't Mr Beaumont telling us the situation with Dr Koukash we Derek's loyal fan base as he likes to describe us need to know what is going on, this is an opportunity for the Leigh Club to have a financial clout that we have not experienced in 126 years, if it is turned down I will want to see a full logical explanation of the reasoning why, if I am not happy with it I just may decide to complain with my absence in future.'"
Once again Harry , you provide the voice of reasoning ,and I intend to agree with you , it’s no secret I’m a Derek fan , but I really think the fans should be informed sooner rather than later , maybe the Club is waiting till the end of the season , before announcing their plans .
I’m as excited as most with the news Marwan is interested in coming on board , as you say Leigh have never been in a position of possible strength financially and hopefully we could put down roots that would grow in years to come .
Again I agree with your point about complaining with your absence ,let’s hope common sense will prevail and we can sort things out , it does need to be done soon .
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| How did we get into this position? And what is going to be done about it? Very poor communication to the fans about what is going on. It is time to get fans onside with solid information about the plans ahead to achieve the stated objective of a sustainable Superleague club. We also need an update on Marwan’s plans.
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| Quote ="The Charlie Caroli"Thank you Mo ,must be the Owl soup I’ve been having for Breakfast .I just think we must put aside sentiment make a few harsh decisions , and say farewell to a lot of the squad , in clouding the Coach , and maybe some Coaching Staff.
Next season will again be difficult , either Toulouse or Fev will again challenge , and we must be ready to spend a few quid , I’m not sure if Marwan is joining us , but Derek is a must to Stay , let’s get behind the Club ,and go for gold .'"
Charlie, here is a great recipe for Owl Soup, but using Pigeon or Chicken.
[urlhttps://www.recipebinder.co.uk/recipes/shropshire-owl-soup/[/url
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| Quote ="Budgiezilla"Charlie, here is a great recipe for Owl Soup, but using Pigeon or Chicken.
[urlhttps://www.recipebinder.co.uk/recipes/shropshire-owl-soup/[/url'"
Cheers Budge m anything to get my thoughts of the current season away from my mind .After a very dismal season and a little bit of sparkle at the end , I’m feeling relieved the season is nearly over, it’s been another painful SL experience .
Where we go from here is anybody’s guess , hopefully Derek will have the wisdom to take up Marwans offer , if he was serious , and we can return next year , more determined and focussed on what has to be done .
Myself , I’m feeling a bit pessimistic , and intend giving the Forum a winter rest , concentrating on my family , friends , and a happy peaceful winter .Hopefully returning next year fully recharged.
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| Quote ="J7P1"How did we get into this position? And what is going to be done about it? Very poor communication to the fans about what is going on. It is time to get fans onside with solid information about the plans ahead to achieve the stated objective of a sustainable Superleague club. We also need an update on Marwan’s plans.'"
Never mind a sustainable SL club, at this rate we will have a struggling middling to bottom of the table Championship club. What I don't understand is the club needs us supporters more than ever, if it was any other type of buisness we were paying into and recieved this shoddy treatment we would tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine, it really is a very poor show from Beaumont & Co, he will be moaning when the Season Ticket sales reach an all time low and it will all be of his own doing, there is only 4 weeks or so to the end of the season and lots of activity in the market place, all our activity is losing our best player's THOSE WHO THE CLUB DEEMED WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, will we be able to replace them with any better player's with what will be available? I doubt it.
A few weeks ago I was feeling a bit brassed off with it,
Not long ago, I was pi55ed off, then Dr Koukash makes his announcement and I am feeling elated and imagining where it could take us,
Now with a complete lack of disregard of advise or information of any kind, I am getting really ed off with it all.
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| Quote ="Harry Stottle"Never mind a sustainable SL club, at this rate we will have a struggling middling to bottom of the table Championship club. What I don't understand is the club needs us supporters more than ever, if it was any other type of buisness we were paying into and recieved this shoddy treatment we would tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine, it really is a very poor show from Beaumont & Co, he will be moaning when the Season Ticket sales reach an all time low and it will all be of his own doing, there is only 4 weeks or so to the end of the season and lots of activity in the market place, all our activity is losing our best player's THOSE WHO THE CLUB DEEMED WERE GOOD ENOUGH TO WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP, will we be able to replace them with any better player's with what will be available? I doubt it.
A few weeks ago I was feeling a bit brassed off with it,
Not long ago, I was pi55ed off, then Dr Koukash makes his announcement and I am feeling elated and imagining where it could take us,
Now with a complete lack of disregard of advise or information of any kind, I am getting really ed off with it all.'"
with a million quid last season and a estimated 650 quid parachute payment the bank balance will look nice nice business for him go figure
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| Quote ="knockonknockon"with a million quid last season and a estimated 650 quid parachute payment the bank balance will look nice nice business for him go figure'"
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I don't think referring to music "For the hard of Thinking" really answers the question, one of the overriding arguments about collating a team together at the end of the season is that there is no one left to buy and those of any quality have secured contracts for next season, the best of the quality from our squad of this season have all commited to other clubs and in return we have sourced?????
Even if we do get the good Doc on board it will take a a big rise in the Salary Cap for his inclusion to make any difference,.
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Even if we do get the good Doc on board it will take a a big rise in the Salary Cap for his inclusion to make any difference,.'"
you have kind of answerd your own questions now ask yourself were the money will be spent or how much will be spent hence the song its all about the money and it will be sitting nicely in the bank forget koukash at least next season anyway dont forget the money coming in from the £sales of the players going out as well like i said nice business ££££££££££££££££££££
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| Quote ="knockonknockon"you have kind of answerd your own questions now ask yourself were the money will be spent or how much will be spent hence the song its all about the money and it will be sitting nicely in the bank forget koukash at least next season anyway dont forget the money coming in from the £sales of the players going out as well like i said nice business ££££££££££££££££££££
also season tickets will be low next season as you predicted but you can still put your hand in the lucky bag and hope you get a good prize'"
OK Knocker tell me where are the new recruits coming from, yes we have money in the bank but nowhere to spend it, and you may not realise but those player's who have moved on we will not get any money for they are all of contract meaning they can go and sign anywhere they please and Leigh get zilch.
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example stotters if a player can get 80k for a new contract elsewere and we replace him with a player for 40k thats 40k saved just like that and a few more like that and its good business
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| Quote ="knockonknockon"you have kind of answerd your own questions now ask yourself were the money will be spent or how much will be spent hence the song its all about the money and it will be sitting nicely in the bank forget koukash at least next season anyway dont forget the money coming in from the =#FF0000£sales of players going out as well like i said nice business ££££££££££££££££££££
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What £ from what "sales" of players going out ?
Leigh don't own any player's other than those on 2 year contracts *not many* & even those will have Super League & NRL clauses. So there won't be any money from sales as we can't sell what we do not own !
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