I shall therefore assume that what you have ‘figured out’ is all based on supposition and in truth you don’t know any facts related to the Ben Flower legal position or his relationship with the Club - just like the rest of us.

Ask Monty! He posts all the links, supposition and back’s everything up. Why you having a pop at me?

If you can train then you can play.

Reading your forum for interest. This one post seems to have generated most comments. What I cannot ascertain is anything to support the view. Just wondering!

I can't imagine for one minute 'the club' (Derek Beaumont) are allowing ANY player to train but not play. It's a load of b******s. Ben Flower and any other players are just injured or not being selected.

Has he played a SL game? That’s not including friendlies!

At least one
He deffo played against Salford

That's right. Ben Flower played versus Salford. He also featured against Saints and Cas in SL and Huddersfield in the cup. He did not play in the friendlies.

So we can all agree by playing v Salford he honoured and agreed to his SL contract.

Without reading his contract, that is impossible to know.
I await a time when the club are able to update us via a press release or selection in a game. (no disrespect to anyone’s info or opinion)

Ellis out on loan to York why we short on players gerrard another one refusing to play this season when will this nightmare of a season end? I hope it’s this Saturday with hull having a good few missing let’s show the doubters what it’s all about

Degsy as so called sorted it with flower and he making himself back available so this could be to make sure he gets his pay packet so something in his contract must say if refusing to play you don’t get paid

Assume Ellis to York to get full matches and get fully fit. We are ok for backs at moment. Hope DB has sorted any issues with Flower so he makes himself available.

I agree but as the stand in coach would you pick someone who as refused to play for you I know what I would do if I was in charge he would be at bottom of the pecking order the lads was always going to fight a losing battle I would sooner stand up and be counted and go down fighting as a player

Amazing. You said he was getting paid.

You are rambling!

Something is happening, I suppose time will tell what it is, either Derek is lowering the wage bill ready to step aside at the end of the year or we have signed/resigned players and kept it quiet.

The amount of players missing off the “off contract” list is starting to coincide with the players being linked with other clubs on social media so it looks like an accurate assumption that we are letting our better players go.

The silence is deafening, it seems we have given up.

We is the operative word.

Realism , is a good word after last nights Salford result , it now means we MUST win at least 2 and Salford lose all their games , to avoid bottom place , between now and seasons end we will a game , I’m sure of that , but I’m sure Salford will as well.

The deafening silence from Derek and the Club , the loaning out of players ,things do seem inevitable ,are the Club getting the white flag out ?Hopefully not , but I’m not optimistic .A win this afternoon will do us a power of good , but Hull are coming to spoil our party .

I think about it you have make your own luck and not worry about others
it’s out of our control
The club needs the fans to get behind them and remember we’re in this together
Can’t wait to watch The match today

Its no surprise if Derek throws the towel in is it?. Has previous for quitting dont he? Didn't he do this in 2018?

No

No he didn’t - in fact he worked his knads off to save the club after a talented squad let him down

Whatever happens , and something must happen fast , we need Derek to lead us , and sort out this mess , the blame for me lies with the players themselves , obviously not all of them , but some seem they can’t be d about Leigh , we don’t need these people .
Yeah JD was on a hiding to nothing , I don’t blame him , you can’t rewire a house with a knife and fork , I’m amazed at the attitude of the missing players , we need to get shut and maybe start a fresh , not easy , but I think it’s to late to rescue this season .

Why do you think the person who got the club into the present mess is the person to get the club out of it?

Keith ,I realise Derek has made mistakes as well , I’m sure he will admit it , but if the players won’t play for whatever reason Derek cannot help that , Duffy was a Coach out of his depth , Derek kept faith in him because Derek is a loyal bloke , he proved that by keeping Abram and Jukes on to long .

The signing of a lot of players who were mainly Championship players couldn’t be helped , then we added blokes like McCarthey who would be playing for Swinton or Oldham now if we didn’t sign him .You ask why I think Derekis the man to get us out of the mess .?Well I can’t see anyone with the Financial clout he has , and he must learn to get rid of the old Leigh boys Club , and start afresh , it won’t be easy , but he has a good group of fans behind the Club , and some good Sponsers .