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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Personally I enjoyed the game , both teams played very well, but Widnes seemed to want the win more.Ive heard all these half back theories,I’m a big Ryan B fan, but today his kicking was poor, not much yardage gained,obviously Riddy wasn’t fit.
For me McNally must stay at full back,I agree Riddy is coming to the end of his career, so is Mickey Higham,hopefully our 9s next season will be Hood and Wildie ,if Craven has signed try him with Ryan, and let Marsh go, no breaks, no runs , not a good games to tries ratio for a winger.
I think everyone will be gutted none more than Derek,but let’s move on,Widnes had some big lads in the pack, I like the lad Norman, the Adamsons have been good this season, but are they big enough?I have faith in JD and Derek,I do think some harsh decisions are needed if we want to move from top 5 contenders to realistic challengers for top spot.'"
Well Toby Adamson would be one of the first names I would be looking to sign up if we are looking for a mixture of PT & FT - for me he has been immense
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| Quote ="ColD"Well Toby Adamson would be one of the first names I would be looking to sign up if we are looking for a mixture of PT & FT - for me he has been immense
And I like HRJ, will bite my tongue on Mr Brierley
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Whilst I admit yesterday was not one of Ryan’s better games, I’m sure he would agree there,I think all the Team gave their all,it was obvious from the faces at the end,if as it has been rumoured we have signed Craven for next season then I think Ryan would benefit from such a playmaker.
As for a few of our forwards,I again looked at the Chapelhows, and Norman,their presence on field was very telling,I’m not saying the Adamsons or others haven’t done well this season, but along with Emmitt yesterday they seemed not as effective as the Widnes Pack.
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| Quote ="Harold Rigby Jnr"Also I think it's worth noting after Josh Woods was ruled out, that Ridyard was no where near fit enough to take the field and only did so in the teams hour of need, after volunteering to take an injection to play.'"
I agree there Harold. The lad has done it before, and will no doubt do it again. We missed his kicking game yesterday, both from penalties and, crucially, near their line, where some appalling kicks cost us dearly.
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Personally I enjoyed the game , both teams played very well, but Widnes seemed to want the win more.Ive heard all these half back theories,I’m a big Ryan B fan, but today his kicking was poor, not much yardage gained,obviously Riddy wasn’t fit.
For me McNally must stay at full back,I agree Riddy is coming to the end of his career, so is Mickey Higham,hopefully our 9s next season will be Hood and Wildie ,if Craven has signed try him with Ryan, and let Marsh go, no breaks, no runs , not a good games to tries ratio for a winger.
I think everyone will be gutted none more than Derek,but let’s move on,Widnes had some big lads in the pack, I like the lad Norman, the Adamsons have been good this season, but are they big enough?I have faith in JD and Derek,I do think some harsh decisions are needed if we want to move from top 5 contenders to realistic challengers for top spot.'"
Good morning Charlie, BFG was lucky enough to catch the game on the superb our league app but was surprised when he tuned in early in the first half to see that Leigh were not running away with the game as you had him believing they would. Your excitement at poundshop once again opening the cheque book to bring in "superstars" had BFG believing that he would see something special so for Widnes and their players having been told their contracts would be ripped up and still managing to outplay Leigh, the only team in the top 5 that actually gave a damn about the competition, had BFG wondering if he had the teams mixed up.
It all reminds BFG of this time when a young man opened a shop and told everyone in town that he sold the best things that anyone in town could buy and he would go up on the roof every morning and use his megaphone to tell the towns people exactly that. It turned out that this did not go down well with people from around the town and even people from out of town and although it was true that he did sell the best things in town people did not go in his shop so what the young man did was go out and buy even better things to sell from his shop until one day he ran out of money and had to stop paying the people who worked for him up until one day he had no option but to close the shop altogether. BFG heard that a year or so later the young lad tried opening another shop but exactly the same thing happened. It seems that some people will never learn.
Anyway I digress Charlie Im sure poundshop will learn from this and maybe have the competition as a pre season competition with only 2 teams to ensure a chance of silverware. Good luck for the rest of the season from all the BFG clan and I hope your owner keeps digging deep in preparation for having a real push after getting 2nd this season and hope the tap does not run dry before you have a real opportunity next year.
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Good morning Charlie, BFG was lucky enough to catch the game on the superb our league app but was surprised when he tuned in early in the first half to see that Leigh were not running away with the game as you had him believing they would. Your excitement at poundshop once again opening the cheque book to bring in "superstars" had BFG believing that he would see something special so for Widnes and their players having been told their contracts would be ripped up and still managing to outplay Leigh, the only team in the top 5 that actually gave a damn about the competition, had BFG wondering if he had the teams mixed up.
It all reminds BFG of this time when a young man opened a shop and told everyone in town that he sold the best things that anyone in town could buy and he would go up on the roof every morning and use his megaphone to tell the towns people exactly that. It turned out that this did not go down well with people from around the town and even people from out of town and although it was true that he did sell the best things in town people did not go in his shop so what the young man did was go out and buy even better things to sell from his shop until one day he ran out of money and had to stop paying the people who worked for him up until one day he had no option but to close the shop altogether. BFG heard that a year or so later the young lad tried opening another shop but exactly the same thing happened. It seems that some people will never learn.
Anyway I digress Charlie Im sure poundshop will learn from this and maybe have the competition as a pre season competition with only 2 teams to ensure a chance of silverware. Good luck for the rest of the season from all the BFG clan and I hope your owner keeps digging deep in preparation for having a real push after getting 2nd this season and hope the tap does not run dry before you have a real opportunity next year.'"
Good Morning to yer good self ,I’m sure after Faxes performance on Saturday you are buoyed with good feelings and rightly so , I didn’t see the game as I was at York Races, but well done to yer Club.
I don’t think I ever said I expected an easy game on the contrary,I knew it would be a hard game, with a Wembley appearance at stake, again I have no qualms about the result,the best team won.
It was nice to read your Story, like a Bible proverb,feeding of the 5,000 ,or Lazarus rising,Derek will bounce back more determined ,as will our great Club, still plenty to play for, hopefully a top 3spot,then the play offs,I’m looking forward to the run in,can’t wait.
Anyway good luck to Fax for the rest of the season, I know it will hard for Grixy to motivate Fax as you have nothing to play for , you won’t get relagated.Speak with you soon.
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| Quote ="Kennedy"Hopefully Liam Forsyth will replace that small forward Sau in the centres next week v Swinton'"
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| Quote ="charlie caroli"Whilst I admit yesterday was not one of Ryan’s better games, I’m sure he would agree there,I think all the Team gave their all,it was obvious from the faces at the end,if as it has been rumoured we have signed Craven for next season then I think Ryan would benefit from such a playmaker.
As for a few of our forwards,I again looked at the Chapelhows, and Norman,their presence on field was very telling,I’m not saying the Adamsons or others haven’t done well this season, but along with Emmitt yesterday they seemed not as effective as the Widnes Pack.
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| Anyone who watched it on TV know if Higson was hit late (to the head)whilst on the floor in the in goal area in the first half?
On live viewing it looked a poor tackle and expected a card but Thaler didn't pull the player in for a chat and just had a word with the captains and gave Leigh a Pen so mustn't have been as bad as it looked?
Wasn't too bad a game although inevitably 5 drives and a kick was more provalent than if we'd had a dry day.
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| Quote ="ColD"Well I reckon our forwards were on top yesterday, Douglas immense once again, Emmitt a different style but effective in what he does.
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| We just got out muscled, that's all, lessons will be learned from coaches and players
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| Quote ="JENKY"Anyone who watched it on TV know if Higson was hit late (to the head)whilst on the floor in the in goal area in the first half?
On live viewing it looked a poor tackle and expected a card but Thaler didn't pull the player in for a chat and just had a word with the captains and gave Leigh a Pen so mustn't have been as bad as it looked?
Wasn't too bad a game although inevitably 5 drives and a kick was more provalent than if we'd had a dry day.
Thought one bit of individual class deserved to win it for Widnes in a match that was nip and tuck.
Players gave it everything but came up short.'"
Higson dropped on the loose ball over our line, making it 'dead'. Ah Van appeared to slide in with the knees, hitting Higson square in the head. However, the ref and two officials were much nearer than I was! After speaking to the captains, Thaler had a word with Ah Van. No doubt the review panel will sort it all.
To put things in balance, I thought one or two of our guys seemed to get away with high shots - I hope they aren't sorted out by the review panel too!
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| McNally and Brierley were left prostrate on the ground following late shots , I don’t recall any Vikings suffering the same ?
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| I think the bottom line is we had the ‘tools’ on the pitch to have got a result however, they were overshadowed in creative and execution aspects of the game, for what it’s worth I personally thought we would struggle as we need squander far two many chances on a weekly basis, just has have done all season! Of course it’s disappointing and I feel for those have yet to see our Club at Wembley however keep the faith and your chance will come !
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| Quote ="JENKY"Anyone who watched it on TV know if Higson was hit late (to the head)whilst on the floor in the in goal area in the first half?
On live viewing it looked a poor tackle and expected a card but Thaler didn't pull the player in for a chat and just had a word with the captains and gave Leigh a Pen so mustn't have been as bad as it looked?
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Watched it on TV and to be honest there was nothing in the challenge, the Widnes player went to complete the tackle which he was entitled to do and his arm went over the shoulder of the Leigh player which Im sure from some angles made it look a bad tackle. If anything the penalty was only given because of the players having handbags afterwards and the commentators seemed to agree. The one where Brierley went down, Pryce called him out for milking it, it was simply a push that at very worst was a fraction late, and the Leigh player milking it for the penalty.
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| Thank goodness for the Review Panel whose ‘expertise ‘ will be able to settle any difference of opinion that exists !
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| Quote ="JENKY"Anyone who watched it on TV know if Higson was hit late (to the head)whilst on the floor in the in goal area in the first half?
On live viewing it looked a poor tackle and expected a card but Thaler didn't pull the player in for a chat and just had a word with the captains and gave Leigh a Pen so mustn't have been as bad as it looked?'"
It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.
What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?
(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).
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| Quote ="71leyther"It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.
What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?
(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"
The replay after the incident shows what happened, contact is with Higson's left arm. There is no contact with the throat whatsoever. The commentators get it just about bang on.
If you pause it on contact you can see that Higson's injury probably occurs as it ends up as a bit of an accidental crusher tackle where higson's head is stuck between the widnes players body and his right arm. At full speed that is a total accident and didn't warrant the reaction it got from the Leigh players.
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| Quote ="71leyther"It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.
What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?
(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"
I suggest you take your spectacles next time, Higson was hit on the arm, anything after was accidental.
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| Quote ="71leyther"It happened right in front of me and it was as bad as it looked! Higson collected the ball and finished by sliding on his backside facing upwards. =#FF0000The culprit was actually Leueui (not Ah Van, sorry Alan) who dropped across Higson's unprotected throat with his forearm - an absolute cheap shot.
What was more concerning to me was that Thaler was only a few feet away from the incident and - from what I could see - appeared to have a clear view of it. Moreover, he blew immediately the blow was delivered (in my view he saw it as a serious offence). However, as we know, Thaler ducked the decision but if the culprit had been Gaz or Jamie Acton, I wonder what he would have done?
(The incident can be seen at 29mins 15 secs in on the recording available on the OurRL app btw).'"
No problem '71leyther'.I was near the middle of the West stand, and my eyesight is bad enough without drizzle on me specs. Let's see what the review panel come up with, and settle for that. Like I said, there were plenty of 'robust' challenges from both sides, for the panel to look at!
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| I don't know how high the shot on Higson was, but it was definitely late enough to be considered unnecessary, avoidable and pretty cheap.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"I don't know how high the shot on Higson was, but it was definitely late enough to be considered unnecessary, avoidable and pretty cheap.'"
Late in what sense?
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| I didn't think there was much in the higson incident watching it on tv,looked like it was the widnes players hip that caught his head but very surprised thaler didn't sin bin anyone from widnes for dissent.3 free kick on the bounce for dissent but he soon sent off Brooks when he last reffed us
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| Quote ="Greg Florimos Boots"Late in what sense?'"
Opposite of early
Watching live (can't bring myself to watch again), it looked like it was grounded before the challenge came in, and wasn't really any attempt at doing anything bar ground the ball, so didn't really need the flop.
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| Quote ="LeythIg"Opposite of early
Watching live (can't bring myself to watch again), it looked like it was grounded before the challenge came in, and wasn't really any attempt at doing anything bar ground the ball, so didn't really need the flop.
If it had been the other way around, I'd have been annoyed at the player for turning a forced GLDO into a conceded penalty.'"
The player only has a split second to make that decision and Im sure for certain he could not see a clear attempt to ground the ball. I think he is more than entitled to make that tackle and has to play to the whistle.
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